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worst plot holes in movies

Haven't read the thread don't know if mentioned...



Terminator



Who is John Conner's father?


Sarah had to get pregnant with John with some dude in the beginning. Then later in the future, John sends Kyle Reese back. But Kyle couldn't have been the original father. Some one else had to have been John's original father.

So unless Kyle has the exact same load as some random unnamed dude that produces the exact same kid, Kyle Reese couldn't possibly have been John's dad.

Usually people say, "well the time line thing and because the future changed the past..." If that is true then John would have changed. He would be a different person in his youth as he would be as an adult unless of course you happen to think that two men's load can produce the same person.

So, who really was John Conner's 'old man?

Kyle Reese was always John's real father. It's a stable time loop:

Through Applied Phlebotinum, Functional Magic, or some other means, our heroes travel back to the past. In the past, they wind up being responsible for the very events that underpin their own "present." This creates a chicken-and-egg scenario, in which the looping sequence of events has no clear beginning. The result of breaking the zeroth law of Time Travel: do not cause the event you went back to prevent.

This is also the basic premise of how Time Travel would work, according to Albert Einstein. Simply put, even if it were possible to travel back in time, you would not be able to change any events in the past, because they've already happened. No matter what your intentions, everything that you did would only fulfill the past. The only thing that would change is your perception of the events. (Thus explaining Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act.)
 
He didn't dig the tunnel, the tunnel was already there. He just removed debris from it. Masks were bought.

Thought he was removing/digging for years.
OK but how did he mail all those masks? Who's paying for them, and his swanky castle?
 
Signs.

I can't believe it's considered a 'good' movie. An ultra advanced extra-terrestrial species travels thousands (millions?) of light years in a planned attack against surface water heavy Earth and gets utterly destroyed by a bunch of super soaker 3000s.

Everyone knows real aliens have no problem with water.
 
Everyone knows real aliens have no problem with water.

It belies credulity to think an extra-terrestrial species would have the intelligence and technology to travel thousands of light years to invade a tiny planet they've obviously scouted out only to be thwarted by one of the most basic molecules in the universe; especially when said molecular substance covers nearly 3/4 of the planet's surface and is constantly present in its atmosphere.

All they apparently would have needed was an alien one-piece bathing suit and it'd have all been perfectly apocalyptic. :rolleyes:
 
It belies credulity to think an extra-terrestrial species would have the intelligence and technology to travel thousands of light years to invade a tiny planet they've obviously scouted out only to be thwarted by one of the most basic molecules in the universe; especially when said molecular substance covers nearly 3/4 of the planet's surface and is constantly present in its atmosphere.

All they apparently would have needed was an alien one-piece bathing suit and it'd have all been perfectly apocalyptic. :rolleyes:

I think you missed the point of the movie.
The point is the humans were the aliens the WHOLE time. So obviously the domestic species was susceptible to the element that separated the two entities.

Imo.
 
In Looper, at the end when Bruce Willis is about to shoot the woman, why didn't Joseph Gordon Levitt just shoot himself in the hand that Bruce Willis was holding the gun with? That would have solved the problem without killing off the hero.

He'd have to shoot all his fingers off lol Shooting himself in the hand would just leave a scar on Bruce Willis since wounds heal over time.
 
Signs
Alien race invades the water planet in our solar system and what easily kills them? Water
It's an M. Night Shaymalan movie, don't try to make sense of the "plot".

Back to the future
Nobody remembers or recognizes Marty at the end even though his parents spent the most with him in the 50s.

They spent what, a week at most with Marty/Calvin Klein? Yeah, 5 November 1955 to 12 November 1955. Do you remember everyone you spent a week with 30 years ago?


Jurassic park 2
Trex arrives to city in a boat that has a dead crew. The boat drifted and stayed on course to get to the city with no crew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot

Star wars
Obi wan hides Luke on tatooine so the emperor or his father never finds him. Then leaves him under his father's name.

Vader wasn't aware his children survived the death of their mother. I can't even recall if he was aware that she was having twins. Vader had an entire galaxy to watch over, never mind one kid from one planet with his name that he wasn't even aware existed. So, it's not inconceivable that he wouldn't find Luke. Besides, only a handful of people knew that Vader was Skywalker, and I would assume that they were all running interference to make sure that Luke's name/heritage was not broadcast to the galaxy.


Gremlins
DON'T feed them after midnight. It's technically always after midnight.

They have advanced solar/lunar positioning, so their feeding cycles adjust to local time? Eh, this one I just ignore. They're fun movies and Phoebe Cates is hot.
 
The Highlander franchise was riddled with them.
 
Because Bella is a special snowflake who despite being the object of the desire of the hottest guy in school and another shredded guy and was asked out by the blonde guy she is friends with and 4 drunk guys tried to rape her or in short has every guy in town wanting to fuck her is a normal girl just like you.

lol, everyone just wants to slam Bella ^^
 
Lord of the Rings ... why didn't the eagles (that kept bailing them out of tricky situations) just drop the ring into Mount Doom?!
 
Thought he was removing/digging for years.
OK but how did he mail all those masks? Who's paying for them, and his swanky castle?

He was doing it for years. You see all the banned swag he had? Bet a bible during that time would sell for millions on the black market.
 
Dark Knight rises: bruce walking perfectly, bruce sneaking into the city, wouldn't Bane be in his 50's if he met talia as a teen? Wouldn't the city have nuclear fallout from the bomb?, the list goes on. Watch everything wrong with TDKR

This stuff is nothing... the plotholes in Dark Kinght Rises that bothered me most were the ones surrounding Bruce Wayne losing his fortune... the whole thing made no sense, and I cant let that go because, unlike the nuclear fallout etc, this was a major plot point that drove the movie.

1) Why would Bane need to hijack the trading floor just to execute trades with Bruce Wayne's account? All he needed was Bruce Wayne's eTrade login and password...
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2) Why would trading still be allowed when the goddamn trading floor is directly under attack? IRL during the 911 attacks the stock market was shut down, and it stayed shut down for about 1 week after.... and that happened without the Wallstreet trading floor being directly attacked...

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3) Why wouldn't the obviously fraudulent trades that Bane executed be nullified? It would be obvious to tell that the trades executed with a timestamp of the time the goddamn trading floor was under attack are fraudulent. Also why did Bruce Wayne not even care/attempt to prove the obviously fraudulent trades are fraudulent?

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4) According to the Newspaper (which Morgan Freedman read to Bruce Wayne) Bruce Wayne lost all his money from "making Put Options on the futures exchange which expired last night at midnight". For those who don't know, in a nutshell, a put option (when executed) is a way to make money when stock prices go down (often used as a hedge). If not used up to a certain time period, the options expire and nothing happens. But WTF does Morgan freedmen's statement mean? If the options expired that means he didn't execute them... so there is no way he could have lost all the money in his account.

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5) The purpose of the fraudulent trades are to get Bruce to get fully kicked out of Wayne enterprises... Dagget says "Bruce has run the company to the ground". But how would Bruce Wayne's loss of his personal money due to options trading have anything to do with Wayne Enterprises? It would be like if Mark Zuckerburg lost a bunch of his own money on the stock market and then somehow got kicked out from Facebook.

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The whole thing was just so lazily written... I would normally let it go if it wasn't the major turning point in the story and sole reason that Bane came into power. It makes the movie very difficult to re-watch

/Rant
 
This stuff is nothing... the plotholes in Dark Kinght Rises that bothered me most were the ones surrounding Bruce Wayne losing his fortune... the whole thing made no sense, and I cant let that go because, unlike the nuclear fallout etc, this was a major plot point that drove the movie.

1) Why would Bane need to hijack the trading floor just to execute trades with Bruce Wayne's account? All he needed was Bruce Wayne's eTrade login and password...
small_subtle_facepalm.png


2) Why would trading still be allowed when the goddamn trading floor is directly under attack? IRL during the 911 attacks the stock market was shut down, and it stayed shut down for about 1 week after.... and that happened without the Wallstreet trading floor being directly attacked...

small_subtle_facepalm.png


3) Why wouldn't the obviously fraudulent trades that Bane executed be nullified? It would be obvious to tell that the trades executed with a timestamp of the time the goddamn trading floor was under attack are fraudulent. Also why did Bruce Wayne not even care/attempt to prove the obviously fraudulent trades are fraudulent?

small_subtle_facepalm.png


4) According to the Newspaper (which Morgan Freedman read to Bruce Wayne) Bruce Wayne lost all his money from "making Put Options on the futures exchange which expired last night at midnight". For those who don't know, in a nutshell, a put option (when executed) is a way to make money when stock prices go down (often used as a hedge). If not used up to a certain time period, the options expire and nothing happens. But WTF does Morgan freedmen's statement mean? If the options expired that means he didn't execute them... so there is no way he could have lost all the money in his account.

small_subtle_facepalm.png


5) The purpose of the fraudulent trades are to get Bruce to get fully kicked out of Wayne enterprises... Dagget says "Bruce has run the company to the ground". But how would Bruce Wayne's loss of his personal money due to options trading have anything to do with Wayne Enterprises? It would be like if Mark Zuckerburg lost a bunch of his own money on the stock market and then somehow got kicked out from Facebook.

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The whole thing was just so lazily written... I would normally let it go if it wasn't the major turning point in the story and sole reason that Bane came into power. It makes the movie very difficult to re-watch

/Rant

Was Bane really 60 when he attacked Gotham?
 
Since we're talking about vampires and Twilight, wouldn't they vamp out every time a girl had her period? I mean, it seems to me they wouldn't even need to bite people. Vampires could be used as human tampons.
 
Was Bane really 60 when he attacked Gotham?

Maybe.

I would even let that go.. TRT Hendo still fights in his mid 40s. I would accept 60 year old TRT Bane attacking Gotham. But the trading floor nonsense I cannot accept
 
Back to the future
Nobody remembers or recognizes Marty at the end even though his parents spent the most with him in the 50s.

They spent what, a week at most with Marty/Calvin Klein? Yeah, 5 November 1955 to 12 November 1955. Do you remember everyone you spent a week with 30 years ago?
It was a pretty eventful week; Marty's grandpa hit him with his car, his Mom is chasing him around, Marty is trying to get his dad to go out with his Mom. Marty goes to the dance with his mom, gets knocked around by Biff then George shows up & KOs Biff.
And then there is Marty playing the guitar at the dance.

Kids (besides Marty) ask parents how they ended up together and the story involves this kid that showed up out of nowhere, started hanging out with George, played crazy music then disappeared.
They might not remember what he looked exactly looked like but they're going to remember the strange kid named Calvin Klein.

They should have worked in some foreshadowing with Lorraine & Calvin; a clip of her hitting the bottle and looking through an old yearbook, muttering about "Cal being dreamy", wishing she had a better photo then show a grainy photo of him on the stage at that dance.
Then as Marty & Jennifer are leaving the house, Jennifer asks him, who is this Cal guy your Mom talks about? Marty replies, some high school crush she had. Then he goes back in time and realizes his mom has been fantasizing about him.

And it gives Marty one more thing to freak out over back in 1955 - got to make sure no one takes his photo.
 
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