Woodley/Lawler 2016 UFC; still bad boxing fundamentals

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  1. fuzzy

    fuzzy Orange Belt

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    Love both of these fighters. It was disappointing seeing Lawler in there flat footed against Woodley who has fucking lightning bolt KO ability. What was Lawler's plan here? Slip 'n walk through Woodley's attacks like he's J. Hendricks? Lawler should have been on his toes here.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. BoosieBoo

    BoosieBoo Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Robbie was moving much more than he ever has, you serious? LoL T-Wood is just pure fast twitch muscle fiber and cut the distance instantly.

    All you need in MMA striking is a good over hand right, its hilariously terrible.
     
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  3. fuzzy

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    It's hard to explain. Sometimes in certain situations, MMA square stance is a very bad idea. This was one of them.
     
  4. fuzzy

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    Over hand rights work because of MMA stance in this situation.
     
  5. Hester65

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    Woodley cut the right exit of Lawler in that exchange by using the cage and stepping left. Woodley then feinted with his left. Lawler responded to the feint by leaning away and moving to his left. He moved directly into that sweeping right's path and it caught him right on the beak.
     
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  6. Xuh

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    Bashing MMA fighters boxing used to be a regular thang but it's dried up in recent years. It does need to make a comeback IMO

    I know it's MMA and you can't expect everyone to be good at everything but the most skilled MMA fighter of all time, Jose Aldo, was just KTFO'd in less than 30 seconds in the biggest fight of his career in a fashion that would make a boxing journeyman kill himself out of pure shame.
     
  7. dickcheney

    dickcheney Gold Belt

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    He probably should have blocked that punch instead of getting knocked out
     
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  8. what-wut

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    You're right. and when it come to betting I always look for the guys with good boxing or good boxing defense. Problem is, there not many of them out there. it's just so bad it's not even funny. Who are some of the fighters that you think have good boxing fundamentals.
     
  9. soulsstealer

    soulsstealer Silver Belt

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    Ya well its not boxing. and robbie is clearly scared of getting taken down.
     
  10. Prime Yossarian

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    Found the MMA journalist.
     
  11. Breaking

    Breaking One shall stand, and one shall fall.

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    Boxing fundamentals would get you leg-kicked to death and/or taken down at will.

    Boxing fundamentals are shit in MMA.
     
  12. fuzzy

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    Gus, Diaz brothers... Off the top of my head
     
  13. moreorless87

    moreorless87 Disarming Posting

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    Gus and the Diaz brothers all take a ton of punches.
     
  14. what-wut

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    Getting Knocked the fuck out is even shitter....
     
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    boxing is just a small aspect of MMA

    Any high profile boxers from boxing will get taken down and get finished immediately and the second they focus too much on stopping the take down they will get KO'd
     
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    what-wut Purple Belt

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    Who do you consider to have good boxing or good boxing defense? I need this info goddammit
     
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    I remember a few months ago some poster telling me Sergey Kovalev wouldn't send Lawler straight to hell in a purely striking setting.
     
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  18. moreorless87

    moreorless87 Disarming Posting

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    There is I think an issue at WW especially that the striking in the division was mostly VERY poor(and those who werent poor often had less than great takedown defence) during the 00's and early 10's, its improved since but that improvement has gotten it a ton of hype when outside of Thompson I still don't think its of the very top draw in MMA.
     
  19. Hi-Tech

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    Dominick Cruz studied boxing footwork and has become virtually unhittable.
     
  20. Breaking

    Breaking One shall stand, and one shall fall.

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    MMA is a "pick your poison" kind of sport. You gotta be dynamic to succeed. Boxing fundamentals are about as valuable as wrestling fundamentals--and wrestling fundamentals will get you kneed the fuck out, kicked find fuck out, and guillotined the fuck out.

    MMA is not boxing.
     
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