With his insane cardio, why isnt Cain ripped?

[Darkeonz]

BMR isn't even the best argument for you. The biggest difference in people regarding how easy they get fat/ripped isn't BMR which might be +- a couple of hundred calories/day, ie nothing. It's appetite, which is hugely based on genetics. Some people can eat 3k cals and feel like its nothing while others almost can't get it down. And that just means it a little harder for the first guy in my example, but still not even close to impossible to get shredded.

which is why I used genetics rather then just BMR. But are you saying every girl in the world can become a victoria secret model (as long as they have a pretty face of course).

 

[SmilesNCries**]

If you are so much more educated about this topic than me, howcome you have been unable to deliver scientific sources to support your claims? You are very hard to take serious when you post the way you do. It is very immature, juvenile and makes me think you lack experience in life.

And no I have not twisted my point. I would love for you to prove that I have twisted
my argument. It would be rather easy, you just have to go back and quote one of my earlier posts and then quote a new one where I contradict myself.

I can't be bothered going back and I can't be bothered finding well cited articles that I've read in the past few years. Like I said, you're the one who needs help here getting educated on a simple, yet important subject - I don't.

It's like me having the exam answers and you keep telling me your answer is right lol. It's whatever dude, keep believing that it's genetics that you cant get ripped.

 

[Darkeonz]

I can't be bothered going back and I can't be bothered finding well cited articles that I've read in the past few years. Like I said, you're the one who needs help here getting educated on a simple, yet important subject - I don't.

It's like me having the exam answers and you keep telling me your answer is right lol. It's whatever dude, keep believing that it's genetics that you cant get ripped.

Aha .. and yes, we wouldn't want you to get exhausted from finding sources backing up your claims. It's easier to just go "it is true, because I said so!!!" right? Keep rejecting the scientific evidence.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

"In the mouse study, the research team determined that mutations in the Mrap2 gene led the animals to eat less initially but still gain about twice as much weight as they normally would. While their appetites returned, these mice continued to gain weight despite being fed the same number of calories as a group of control animals. That led the scientists to figure out that the mice with the mutated gene were simply sequestering fat rather than breaking it down for energy. The mice, like people, possessed two copies of the gene, and mice with even one defective copy experienced significant weight gain, although not as much as those who had two mutated versions of Mrap2.

The scientists found a similar pattern among a group of 500 obese people; they detected four mutations in the human version of Mrap2, and each of the obese individuals possessed only one bad version of the gene.
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[MusterX]

Orly

The TS asks a good question. I know people will say genetics but that seems like an overly simplistic answer. There's a genetic component to athletics and body build but I don't accept the claim that someone simply can't be ripped now matter how clean they eat and how much they exercise. There are people who have gone from morbidly obese to ripped. There's no biological reason why Cain Velasquez can't be ripped.

I think the correct answer is that Mr. Velasquez is one of those rare individuals who have great cardiovascular conditioning while maintaining a diet that is fattening enough to keep him a little soft. He eats what he wants since he doesn't have to worry about cutting weight. My evidence for this is a scene from a Primetime or Countdown episode where Velasquez is chowing down on some kind of burrito type dish and admits that he doesn't have an extreme diet plan.

I wasn't really a fan of Cain at first but the more I learn about him the better I like him lol. He isn't the biggest, or the most muscular, his diet isn't the best, etc. and yet he is dominating the division. I really hate to make the comparison but he reminds me of Fedor a little bit.

 

[threelions]

Being ripped doesn't mean you have good cardio, Fedor had great cardio and was plump. If this was true body builders would be running marathons. Could Cain get ripped? Sure would that make him a better fighter with better cardio? No.

 

[Krouget]

Simple question, would prefer serious answers, but I'm sure I'll get some bad ones.

Cain doesnt cut any weight before fights, he has solid strength and really good cardio, so why isnt he more ripped?

I'm sure since hes a fighter, he's on a pretty strict diet.

I mean no homo, outside of the Hunt, Nelson, DC, he probably has the worst physique of the quality HWs

Showing muscle definition is a characteristic of low body fat, not necessarily cardio or muscle endurance. Yes, you'd probably think training cardio would decrease overall body fat, but it's relative to his diet, genes, and training regimen.

 

[LiverpunchKO]

he doesn't do crunches and sit-ups? other than his abdominals, he's pretty chiseled.

 

[Raff01**]

Being fat can hinder your cardio if the amount of extra weight gets too high proportionally to the overall body weight.
The % of body mass that would separate Cain as he is from ripped Cain isn't that much at all.
Its those few lbs of fat that's gonna hide or reveal the muscle definition, that's all.
Cain's cardio comes from his metabolism and heart muscle. He probably has a huge heart muscle able to pump a huge amount of blood and oxygen into his muscles.

 

[tkotom]

he and the others making taco bell jokes are just being racist. (mexicans arent a race, I know. Its a nationality)

I dont mind it, just not original or funny is all

race is a broad term.. it doesn't have an exact meaning..

"a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group"

 

[tkotom]

he probably likes to eat a lot.. seems like a diet thing more than anything

 

[runnpray]

too much high rep training fork to mouth.

anyone claiming "genetics" is fat and/or stupid.

 

[Phil Galdong]

Endurance doesnt equal muscle, Look at marathon runners, none of them are ripped

Marathon runners aren't chubby either.

Cain has plenty muscle mass, but has a high bf% despite his cardio intensive training, which is surprising.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Wow. Someone actually posted a picture of a shirtless Mario Lopez.

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any more bi-sexual.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

1. He's clean
2. Genetics
3. Lack of weight training

From what I've read, Cain does have a healthy diet when he's training but most his gym work is cardio and body weight exercises.

I'm sorry but to be big AND ripped, you either need insane genetics and a strong gym worth ethic and/or the help of illegal supplements.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Yup. People got different body types and that's why Cain doesn't look ripped. He was the last one on the line when they gave dem ripped bodytype genes away. He's still a beast and better conditioned than anyone in the HW division.

People have different body types, sure, but anyone can cut the fat away with the right diet and activity. Cain just chooses not to.

 

[Sp@cePeanut]

Being ripped doesn't mean you have good cardio, Fedor had great cardio and was plump. If this was true body builders would be running marathons. Could Cain get ripped? Sure would that make him a better fighter with better cardio? No.

Exactly. Being ripped has absolutely nothing to do with cardio endurance.

 

[Perrichet]

Being ripped doesn't mean you'll have great cardio

 

[MartyMcFry]

Junior looked ripped when he fought Cain the second time, but his cardio looked pretty shit.

 

[SmilesNCries**]

People have different body types, sure, but anyone can cut the fat away with the right diet and activity. Cain just chooses not to.

No they don't.

 

[BenderRodriguez]

Obviously he doesn't lift, bro.