Should one want to examine Wing Chun, I suggest one take a look at the Chinese practitioner first. There's a thread in the striking forum about how westerners 'hobbify' martial arts, no doubt this occurs all over the world. These hobbifiers though tend to populate YouTube and just can't contain themselves talking about their new hobby. Wing chun discussion is drowning in that by my reckoning.
Here's a couple of Jackie Chan clips. People can then jump up & down claiming he's an actor and stunt player who really doesn't know martial arts. I suggest those interested in Wing Chun review his work, that's my suggestion.
Amazing Wing Chun Jackie Chan With Wooden Dummy.mp4
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bbkr84
Published on Jan 16, 2010
Now, ask yourself. Do I have what it takes to really do this (in a fight)? First consideration is that Jackie Chan is an extraordinary talent physically including off the charts natural coordination. Second, he was tithed to a chinese stunt player school doing 16 hour days for all of his youth. Extreme of course. I submit, however, Wing chun is not suited for the western martial hobbiest. They, any martial hobbiest, will zero out as YT video after YT video after YT video can attest.
Should you somehow plow past all that inertia, here's where Wing Chun can take you.
RUMBLE IN THE BRONX - FIGHT
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znear azer
Published on Mar 23, 2013
This characterization (I'm talking the pool table fight) isn't even complete as a woman the story goes, developed Wing Chun to defeat a man much superior and overwhelming physically to her. So then something much more than the quality of muscles was involved to make it work.
Instead on Youtube, we see media warriors with all the answer they, themselves, just discovered hundreds of years later in their living room or Paddy's local boxing gym.
Here's What YOU'RE NOT Told About Real Fighting in WING CHUN
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Fight SCIENCE
Published on Aug 11, 2017
Wing Chun Myths: What YOUR SIFU May NOT Tell YOU About Real Fighting We get many comments that this wouldn’t work or that wouldn’t work etc. Well here’s a breakdown
Notice how these videos always begin with WHY SUCH & SUCH DOESN'T WORK. Yeah, nowhere. The guiding reason Wing chun doesn't work for this guy is that he has a boxing mentality and imposes boxing on the Wing chun style. So naturally Wing chun doesn't work. And it'll never work, ever, never, ever. There's a
breakdown alright, in comprehension, for sure.
Now let's just digress to that classical mess Shotokan karate, as Bruce Lee put it. Here's a video of one of Japan's finest woman kumite competitors against Spain's in a WKF final tournament.
Gema Morales Ozuna vs Miho Miyahara - Final Female Kumite -50Kg (Premier League Tokyo 2018)
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KaaLel
Published on Oct 14, 2018
Now Shotokan wasn't developed by women for women, it's not a specialized martial art. I use a woman, a small young woman in the illustration to show the power of traditional martial arts. Woman don't have the specialized body mass & muscular strength to engage in physical fighting the way men can. So it's critical that they use all the human capabilities to their fullest potential in order to prevail. Couple of points re Wing Chun
1. Shotokan karate employs, like Wing Chun, a lot of linear moment and technique because thats' the shortest distance between two point hence inherently the quickest all other being equal. That's tactically smart, not dumb. Remember Mr. Anti-Wing chun's brawler throwing hooks and haymakers?
2. Shotokan karate like all karates, strives to disable the opponent (Wing chun woman self dense against man). So karate looks to hurt the opponent, knock them down in some way to accomplish this. Catch time = 2:19.
Both opponents are in a very fast exchange of technique (like the anti-wing chun video brawling is fast), and Gemma, Miho's opponent gets rocked by Miho's head kick. It's so fast in effect (Mr. Anti-Wing Chun) you literally can't see it when following the video. Just like Wing chun super fast in effect. This tiny Japanese girl, not even 21, just standing KO'd a physically larger opponent. In what, less than a minute? AND THAT IS CONTROLLED CONTACT. So we have this tiny woman who's a power-packed dynamo - just look at her move with grace & poise around the Tatame! Jessica Andrade... look out.
ADD: Gemma Morales, a kata competitor by experience, takes herself all the way to the kumite final's & scores against Japan's finest. Phenomenal performance.
There are several other lesson here which I'll skip. The ending point is that the founder of Shotokan karate created a style amenable to the masses, estimated in the the many hundreds of thousands worldwide. Shotokan is for everyone, it's doable, it's for the world class karate competitor like Miho, it's for the world class MMA fighter, Lyoto Machida, it's for all the way down to the western hobbiest / enthusiast.
If one treats Shotokan like a hobby, you will be able to fight like a hobby. Poorly to not @ all. If one takes Shotokan seriously like the Japanese do, even as individual practice, it will be a martial art, and you will be able to fight. Here's a Japanese University class.
Teikyo Universuty Karate Club
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НАЦИОНАЛЬНАЯ АССОЦИАЦИЯ КАРАТЭ - JKS - RUSSIA
Published on Oct 29, 2015
Teikyo University Karate Club - by KAGAWA Masao Sensei's guidance
Now I can criticize some aspect of the training here, it's not what I do and so on. The point is, however, these Japanese karateka are not out on Youtube and MMA media whining and complaining and fussing how karate doesn't work FOR THEM. These are everyday Japanese college students applying themselves to the rigorous training lessons to become proficient at a long time form of martial arts sustained & powered by certain principles.
This doesn't apply to MMA? Now go back and watch Sages' tape vs. Alexandre. Sage broke every rule of karate demonstrated in this Japanese Karate Club video. He (Mr.Karate Champion) broke 'em all and now his face is broken into what half dozen pieces or more? With MMA's 'evolved' training in hand.
In closing, what YOU'RE NOT TOLD BY GREG JACKSON & FIRAS ZAHABI, is that success in traditional karate depends more than ever on you, not the great epithets from them. YOU have to understand what YOU are doing. YOU have to study the curriculum in it's entirely. YOU then must execute that curriculum in entirely. If one goes into traditional karate and diddles & complains, you'll get smeshed against the Japanese, and much worse than Miho's very game opponent. Khabib has no lock on smeshing.
I personally wouldn't laugh at Master Wong. I want no part of the guy. Think you can take out Master Wong? Takes dedicated training to win. My definition of Hard Core.
