Crime Widespread riots after Death of George Floyd V.5, Let's Hope The Murder, Arson & Looting Is Over

Should Citizens Start Policing Their Respective Neighborhoods?

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BEER said:
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NOoooooo!
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n...not crazy said:
Knee-on-Neck

It's a thing. It is obviously part of training.
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I know here in NY the Department of Corrections has outlawed the use of knee on neck because they have seen that it resulted in many cases of those being restrained having a hard time breathing. They put individuals on their side now but I still wonder even though it is outlaw if some CO's still use it just like I've seen some police officers use it on individuals in jurisdiction that clearly outlawed it's use.

I think all police jurisdictions in this country should outlaw the use of it and if they find any police officer still doing it said officers get taken out of the rotation and given proper training as to why knee on neck is illegal now. If said officer does it again they are fired from the department
 
Satanical Eve said:
I know here in NY the Department of Corrections has outlawed the use of knee on neck because they have seen that it resulted in many cases of those being restrained having a hard time breathing. They put individuals on their side now but I still wonder even though it is outlaw if some CO's still use it just like I've seen some police officers use it on individuals in jurisdiction that clearly outlawed it's use.

I think all police jurisdictions in this country should outlaw the use of it and if they find any police officer still doing it said officers get taken out of the rotation and given proper training as to why knee on neck is illegal now. If said officer does it again they are fired from the department
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It's an Aikido technique. Too deadly for MMA
 
shockaholic12 said:
Who's talking about the riots? I'm talking about the protests. It's not possible to look at the scale of them across the nation, look at the totally unique response to not just floyd's case, but the re-opening of other cases and rapid movement of state governments to address police reform that suddenly occurred when it became clear these protest would continue, and say it could have all been done with a #. That's been tried before and did not have anywhere near these results.

I think the government would prefer the type of folks that stay at home and whine on the internet instead of going out and confronting reality. Sounds easy to ignore.
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What protests? For years now, I have only seen violence and destruction break out every time there is a so-called peaceful protest.
 
Quipling said:
I told you I don't know anything about it and asked you for more information.


You didn't provide any information. My thoughts are obviously unchanged. Are you trolling?
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You really do not even know who David Dorn is.

I think this is right here the biggest problem. People living in a bubble and only getting a certain narrative pushed on them.
 
Hadron90 said:
40% increase in 2015, and never went back down.
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That's pretty massive. That's pretty much the model to follow. I'd move away from any urban area. Anyone kinda near the bad part of town is going to see a major uptick as well.
 
shockaholic12 said:
Is this not the "wait till the facts come out" stage?

I get confused because it seems so dependent on the demographic of the victim with you guys.
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Not sure who "you guys" are but I imagine you mean conservative/republicans? I'm neither, but okay. There's was pretty much unanimous anger at Floyd's killing and thankfully the officer was fired and arrested. For some reason though, all of the other destruction, assaults, murders, etc. get zero attention other than vague justification from the MSM. Why doesn't David Dorn's black life matter? Why do liberals refuse to acknowledge his murder?
 
SBJJ said:
You really do not even know who David Dorn is.

I think this is right here the biggest problem. People living in a bubble and only getting a certain narrative pushed on them.
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The narrative pushing is a huge problem. Most people I have been arguing with just keep repeating the same media talking points. Slavery, white supremacy and police brutality are the only reasons for black criminality and they are not in anyway responsible for their own behavior. Oddly enough, almost nobody I have spoken with who supports the rioting has even heard of David Dorn. It is scary how much of a grip the media has on people's minds. I don't know how many times I have heard the white people I know say that black people are literally being hunted down in the streets everyday.
 
Dober4 said:
They do. Studies showed that blacks were more likely to get shot by minority cops.

I know NYC is 53% minority in terms of patrol cops. Other urban cities are similar in percentage.
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PG County Maryland has a lot of black cops. Since the 90s. They've always had tons of police shootings there.
 
Voodoo_Child906 said:
I see where the disconnect is, it's in the word 'prove'. The 1st statement should read:

Defiance by employers of the Civil Rights Act's provision against racial discrimination was so *apparent* and pervasive that implementing institutional racism favoring blacks was necessary to ensure blacks got jobs they were qualified.

2nd statement should read:

Government action against employers required official steps before actual punishments could be levied



I certainly do think the government needs reasonable suspicion against white institutions to begin an inquiry. Something like multiple complaints would be sufficient.
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If you feel a need to note the difference between what's apparent and what's proven, and you claim there was only "apparent" -- not proven -- ubiquitous institutional racism which you've used to rationalize institutional racism against whites, I'm going to dismiss your claim as nothing more than hearsay. If all you had was a 'hunch' that there was an epidemic of people violating the rights of others, and you brought a lawsuit against one of these employers, you ought to be be laughed out of court. If it's so hard to prove your case, then you don't know that these people were doing the unethical behavior you accuse them of and use to rationalize punishing people who had nothing to do with the negative actions you accuse others of making.
 
Hadron90 said:
Painting a street on a whim to discredit a political opponent, yep. Imagine if Republican Mayors went around painting MAGA on all the streets.
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the phrase "black lives matter" discredits trump? hmmmmmmmm
 
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