Why Pride Fighters Didn't Do as Well in the UFC

Yeah Big Nog, Barnett, Shogun, Rampage, and Hendo really struggled after 2007. Completely irrelevant after that year.

This thread is about fighters who struggled. Is it really that hard to comprehend
 
How about we make a thread called "Why UFC fighters didn't do as well in Pride."

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they did well, they just got old
 
Anderson, Shogun, Rampage and Nog all won belts when they came over. So your point is not quite right.
 
They got old.. if Pride bought the UFC in 2007 the same guys from that era would have failed in Pride.
 
Pride was fun but more like a wrestling promotion. Say what you want about the UFC but none of their champions champs fought freak show fights. Closest thing to a freak show fights were Hughes -Gracie. Couture- Toney. Pride was like the WWE and encouraged peds.
 
Have people resorted to calling all Japanese fighters in Pride cans yet?
 
This thread is about fighters who struggled. Is it really that hard to comprehend

Show me where the OP made that distinction. They were pretty clearly insinuating that all Pride fighters struggled because of the difference in rules.
 
TBH Like Dana always said it was the level of competition. THE UFC just had way more talent. You saw guys fight Japanese pro wrestlers sometimes....and do you ever hear about them anymore? NO! Sakuraba was the most popular one...after him nothing.
 
Because a lot of Pride-fighters fought a lot of mediocre fighters in between other good fighters?
I love Pride but man, their fighters are so overrated on this board.
 
Yeah and why did ufc fighters from the same era do even worse?
 
How did Chuck do when he fought in Pride? Oh, yeah, he was KTFO!
 
Because the popular ones were at the end of their careers and out of their primes.

First post got it right.

Cro Cop was already contemplating retirement around the time of the Open Weight GP, Wanderlei had just got done getting VICIOUSLY, CAREER-THREATENINGLY (the are you dead? type) ktfo by a highlight reel Cro Cop LHK and then again by a clean Hendo H-Bomb, Shogun suffered his first ACL rupture during the layoff during the UFC-Pride merger, Gomi was already on a downward spiral in his career coming into the UFC, etc.


All that combined with the fact that you take this declining fighters and put them in a COMPLETELY new environment in the form of the UFC octagon (far different from a ring in surface area as well as the ability too cut corners/cut your opponent off) and subject them to rule changes which for some (Shogun and Wand...that CB style) forced them to almost COMPLETELY have to reinvent themselves as fighters after having some of their most trademarked weapons be made illegal.

That's just the truth. You're gonna have UFC fanboys spout their nonsense because the buyout and migration happened the way it did and it wasn't the UFC that was bought out but objectively it was towards the end of an era.

Also how many "UFC guys" really did well over in Pride? Not many. Prime Chuck for instance looked VERY human against Overeem (lucky for Chuck, Overeem did his usual procedure of gassing himself into a knockout loss) and of course got beat badly by Rampage. Guy Mezger? Also had a horrible record in Pride. Vitor got bounced out of the opening round of 05 MW/LHW GP too iirc. Got submitted by Overeem in the first round.

I mean most UFC fighters who came over to Pride did just about equally as bad. Even worse because a lot of those guys were young and/or not as over the hill as they were to become.
 
Please stop. That horse has been beaten so much that there's nothing left to beat.
 
Because Pride was as much of a sport, as the WWE is.
 
First post got it right.

Cro Cop was already contemplating retirement around the time of the Open Weight GP, Wanderlei had just got done getting VICIOUSLY, CAREER-THREATENINGLY (the are you dead? type) ktfo by a highlight reel Cro Cop LHK and then again by a clean Hendo H-Bomb, Shogun suffered his first ACL rupture during the layoff during the UFC-Pride merger, Gomi was already on a downward spiral in his career coming into the UFC, etc.


All that combined with the fact that you take this declining fighters and put them in a COMPLETELY new environment in the form of the UFC octagon (far different from a ring in surface area as well as the ability too cut corners/cut your opponent off) and subject them to rule changes which for some (Shogun and Wand...that CB style) forced them to almost COMPLETELY have to reinvent themselves as fighters after having some of their most trademarked weapons be made illegal.

That's just the truth. You're gonna have UFC fanboys spout their nonsense because the buyout and migration happened the way it did and it wasn't the UFC that was bought out but objectively it was towards the end of an era.

Also how many "UFC guys" really did well over in Pride? Not many. Prime Chuck for instance looked VERY human against Overeem (lucky for Chuck, Overeem did his usual procedure of gassing himself into a knockout loss) and of course got beat badly by Rampage. Guy Mezger? Also had a horrible record in Pride. Vitor got bounced out of the opening round of 05 MW/LHW GP too iirc. Got submitted by Overeem in the first round.

I mean most UFC fighters who came over to Pride did just about equally as bad. Even worse because a lot of those guys were young and/or not as over the hill as they were to become.

Guy Mezger.......

When you have to reach that low to make a point about UFC guys being unsuccessful in Pride, you didn't have a point to begin with.
 
I think there are still a few Pride fighters in the top 10.
 
because they got sent back to japan where the competition is easier
 

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