Why Khabib is the GOAT

BusterBarry said:
Worry first about conrat not getting flatlined by Poirier again

conrat is really done if he losses to peahead again
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Thats like worrying about getting hit by a meteor while walking outside. Conor will be prepared this time and take Dustins head clean off with ease.
 
Juicy Jon said:
Jon beat four top 15 P4P opponents in a row according to Fight Matrix.

Shogun, Lyoto, Rampage and Rashad.

Jon finished first three then decisioned Rashad. All in 13 months. Khabibs 3 wins took 2 years.

Volk beat Mendes, Aldo, Max
Weidman beat Anderson, Lyoto, Vitor
Cejudo beat DJ, TJ, Marlon
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Show me the receipts of Jon. I don't believe Rampage and Rashad were ranked p4p when the fought jones but I could be wrong :D

Mendes was not ranked p4p when he fought he volk. Neither was Aldo

Marlon was not ranked p4p when he fought Henry
 
Murder_KickHC said:
Thats like worrying about getting hit by a meteor while walking outside. Conor will be prepared this time and take Dustins head clean off with ease.
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I hope so for your sake because my trolling and flamming will rain like meteors on your ass if conrat losses again :D
 
BusterBarry said:
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It's simply really. I can prove it with just these 2 points:

1. Khabib beat back to back 3 P4P top 10 Ranked fighters.

2. Khabib finished all 3 P4P top 10 Ranked fighters

This is the greatest 3 consecutive win streak in MMA History! I dare Sherdog and Khabib haters to find a better 3 fight win streak

Your personal GOAT has not beaten 3 top 10 p4p ranked fighters back to back let alone finish them!

Their official UFC P4P rankings before they fought and lost to Khabib

Justin gaethje #7
https://www.mma-stats.com/rankings/2020-10-19

Dustin Poirier #8
https://www.mma-stats.com/rankings/2019-09-02

Conrat #2
https://www.mma-stats.com/rankings/2018-09-24

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Khabib Bless

Accept my challenge and name a fighter that has beaten and finished 3 p4p elite fighters back to back

If you can't then shut up and scatter away
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Believing Khabib to be the GOAT is perfectly reasonable and defensible, but announcing that the best three fight streak is the definitive metric is completely arbitrary.

Also, I’ll point out that inactivity contributed to the high rankings those guys had. At all times, Conor, DP and Justin were contenders, not the best lightweight on the planet. Arguably they weren’t even number two, at least until Gaethje defeated Tony. They acquired belts only because Khabib didn’t compete regularly enough, and by having belts they got ranked ahead of the second and third best contenders in other divisions. Not only did Khabib benefit from all that time off, both in terms of not taking damage and not risking defeat, but the quality of his wins appears better as well.

In terms of three best wins in a row though, I do agree that this is a very strong contender.

Jones had a ton of dominant wins, but there isn’t really a run of three that stands out the way Khabib’s last three does.

The Gus and Cormier wins had Glover in between, who wasn’t at the level at that Khabib’s guys were, and the wins were competitive. Rua Rampage Machida was very good, and now that I’m typing this they were all undisputed champions at one time and were destroyed by Jones, so I think that’s probably better (and when you add Evans that’s FOUR undisputed champs in a row, which brings us back to the point about how arbitrary a three fight streak is).

Not sure what GSP’s best trio is, perhaps Fitch Penn Alves. Fitch was clearly the second best welterweight for a long time (much more clearly than CM/DP/JG were in my view), Alves was right behind him, and BJ was a two division champ.

Marquardt Franklin Henderson is better for sure. Hendo two division Pride champ, Franklin very solid UFC champ, Marquardt the clear beat rising contender, and he smashed them all quickly.

And of course the elephant in the room vis a vis the GOAT debate is that Khabib’s trio of wins also happens to double as his only defenses.
 
this is kinda sad people have different opinions so stop just sucking off khabib
 
Khabib himself admitted he is a UFC project and was given favorable match ups all the way to the belt. Unless he fights Khamzat we may never know how he would fare against a live body.


Reminder Khabib went life and death with perennial journeyman Tibau not too long ago.
 
aali14 said:
1. Only beat 4 elite level competition his whole career

2. Never fought a single elite level MMA wrestler, all we've seen him do is beat strikers and meh level grapplers

3. The guy cuts way too much weight for a size advantage

4. The one time he fought a guy without having a size advantage (Tibau), Khabib lost that fight
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I legit think he was avoiding grapplers and that's why he never went up to 170 despite missing weight twice and nearly dying every time he weighed in. He would have had to fight high level grapplers his own size at 170 rather than a bunch of strikers that are smaller than him. Funny that the 2 guys he pulled out against several times were known to be good on the ground. I know in hindsight people can say "did you see Tony on the ground with Lee and Dariush? Khabib would have smashed him" which tbf I already agreed with but still the point is Tony is more dangerous on the ground than guys like Iaquinta, Conor, Gaethje, Barboza, Johnson etc.. The other one he pulled out against was Cerrone and again Cerrone has pretty good bjj, much better than Tony imo.

I realize even suggesting this will put khabib fanboys panties in a bunch but the fact is at the very least he was cautious when it came to facing decent grapplers. Also kind of suspicious that he retired right when the guy with the most submission wins in UFC history was knocking on the door for a title shot.
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
I legit think he was avoiding grapplers and that's why he never went up to 170 despite missing weight twice and nearly dying every time he weighed in. He would have had to fight high level grapplers his own size at 170 rather than a bunch of strikers that are smaller than him. Funny that the 2 guys he pulled out against several times were known to be good on the ground. I know in hindsight people can say "did you see Tony on the ground with Lee and Dariush? Khabib would have smashed him" which tbf I already agreed with but still the point is Tony is more dangerous on the ground than guys like Iaquinta, Conor, Gaethje, Barboza, Johnson etc.. The other one he pulled out against was Cerrone and again Cerrone has pretty good bjj, much better than Tony imo.

I realize even suggesting this will put khabib fanboys panties in a bunch but the fact is at the very least he was cautious when it came to facing decent grapplers. Also kind of suspicious that he retired right when the guy with the most submission wins in UFC history was knocking on the door for a title shot.
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Keep ur cowbum delusions to yourself bro. Cowbum didn't even deserve to fight Khabib. Khabib beat the guy (RDA) that beat cowbum's ass twice. Your acting like Khabib is Mike Perry lol

The "high level grapplers" at 170 are just worse copycats of Khabib. Khabib subs those copycats easily
 
BusterBarry said:
Keep ur cowbum delusions to yourself bro. Cowbum didn't even deserve to fight Khabib. Khabib beat the guy (RDA) that beat cowbum's ass twice. Your acting like Khabib is Mike Perry lol

The "high level grapplers" at 170 are just worse copycats of Khabib. Khabib subs those copycats easily
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Khabib couldn't even sub Barboza, something Cerrone and Tony did with ease. He also arguably lossed to Tibau who Tony subbed, just saying.

Now you saying Cerrone or to quote you "cowbum" (which is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever read btw) didn't deserve to fight Khabib when they were schedule to fight is pretty ridiculous. First time they were scheduled Cerrone had won 5 straight in the UFC and Khabib 6, second time Khabin was still at 6 and Cerrone at 7.

Khabib's win streak at the time was shalorus, Tibau, Tavares, Trujillo, Healy and RDA

Cerrone's was Dunham, Martins Barboza, Miller and Alvarez and then the second time they were scheduled he also beat Jury and Benson.
 
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Khabib being GOAT, questionable.

But to compare him against cheats and PED users like Jones, Silva and these so called Pre Usada greats, Pffttt.
 
Mr Fahrenheit said:
Believing Khabib to be the GOAT is perfectly reasonable and defensible, but announcing that the best three fight streak is the definitive metric is completely arbitrary.

Also, I’ll point out that inactivity contributed to the high rankings those guys had. At all times, Conor, DP and Justin were contenders, not the best lightweight on the planet. Arguably they weren’t even number two, at least until Gaethje defeated Tony. They acquired belts only because Khabib didn’t compete regularly enough, and by having belts they got ranked ahead of the second and third best contenders in other divisions. Not only did Khabib benefit from all that time off, both in terms of not taking damage and not risking defeat, but the quality of his wins appears better as well.

In terms of three best wins in a row though, I do agree that this is a very strong contender.

Jones had a ton of dominant wins, but there isn’t really a run of three that stands out the way Khabib’s last three does.

The Gus and Cormier wins had Glover in between, who wasn’t at the level at that Khabib’s guys were, and the wins were competitive. Rua Rampage Machida was very good, and now that I’m typing this they were all undisputed champions at one time and were destroyed by Jones, so I think that’s probably better (and when you add Evans that’s FOUR undisputed champs in a row, which brings us back to the point about how arbitrary a three fight streak is).

Not sure what GSP’s best trio is, perhaps Fitch Penn Alves. Fitch was clearly the second best welterweight for a long time (much more clearly than CM/DP/JG were in my view), Alves was right behind him, and BJ was a two division champ.

Marquardt Franklin Henderson is better for sure. Hendo two division Pride champ, Franklin very solid UFC champ, Marquardt the clear beat rising contender, and he smashed them all quickly.

And of course the elephant in the room vis a vis the GOAT debate is that Khabib’s trio of wins also happens to double as his only defenses.
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You make some good points but I can promise you that JG, DP and conrat would have whooped any versions of overrated el knockdowns ass lol

Hendo was coming off a loss to Rampage when he fought Silva. So scratch that

Fitch was good but p4p elite and alves ...

Rampage was just on a 2 fight streak when he got a title shot

Lyota been getting his ass kicked by Shogun and Rampage. He beat Randy to earn a title shot lol
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
Khabib couldn't even sub Barboza, something Cerrone and Tony did with ease. He also arguably lossed to Tibau who Tony subbed, just saying.
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Khabib did not want to submit Barboza. He never went for a sub lol

30-27 (3X) Khabib :D

Tony lost to MJ who Khabib subbed
Tony lost to JG who Khabib subbed

Cowbum lost to conrat who Khabib subbed.
Cowbum lost JG who Khabib subbed
Cowbum lost to RDA who Khabib beat 30-27


Khabib Bless ur bum
 
BusterBarry said:
Khabib did not want to submit Barboza. He never went for a sub lol

30-27 (3X) Khabib :D

Tony lost to MJ who Khabib subbed
Tony lost to JG who Khabib subbed

Cowbum lost to conrat who Khabib subbed.
Cowbum lost JG who Khabib subbed
Cowbum lost to RDA who Khabib beat 30-27


Khabib Bless ur bum
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Khabib had a hell of a time submitting MJ even resorting to begging MJ to give up and MJ is a guy that got subbed by Darren Elkins... Quicker than Khabib subbed him I might add. Tony is a different kind of fighter and also broke his arm in rd 1 against MJ. Cowboy was 90 when he lost to Conor and again that's not even remotely similar stylistically, Conor isn't a wrestler. Also he was past his prime against Gaethje as well. Fair play to the RDA mention but still, RDA has nothing off of his back so Cerrone would still have been a much bigger threat than RDA. The thing is I'm Just stating facts but fanboys don't like facts. You say he would submit all these grapplers but I say he failed to submit Barboza and struggled with Tibau. The 2 guys he pulled out against have much better ground games than Iaquinta, Barboza, MJ, Horcher, Conor, Gaethje etc.. That is also a fact, was it a coincidence that he never pulled out against guys with no ground game? Maybe, maybe not but it's very interesting.
 
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FlyingDeathKick said:
Khabib had a hell of a time submitting MJ even resorting to begging MJ to give up and MJ is a guy that got subbed by Darren Elkins... Quicker than Khabib subbed him I might add. Tony is a different kind of fighter and also broke his arm in rd 1 against MJ. Cowboy was 90 when he lost to Conor and again that's not even remotely similar stylistically, Conor isn't a wrestler. Also he was past his prime against Gaethje as well. Fair play to the RDA mention but still, RDA has nothing off of his back so Cerrone would still have been a much bigger threat than RDA.
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You mix alot of lies in your posts

Tony got his arm broken in R2. He lost R1 on all 3 judges scorecard.

“I left it out there, and I ate it up with a pair of kicks – some roundhouse kicks from Michael Johnson,” Ferguson told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). “It broke the ulna. It burst like a firecracker. It was round two. It was maybe two-and-a-quarter minutes into round two.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mmajun...ony-ferguson-itching-to-book-return-fight/amp





Cowbum has not submitted any decent fighter but Perry of his back. Is cowbum even a blackbelt ...

Opportunistic sub hunters like Cowbum and el knockdown will never submit a high level grappler like Khabib. They will get their ugly faces caved in trying to play cute from their back LOL
 
You already know that a fighter is NOT the GOAT when his fans have to make up „alternative facts“ in order to try to claim their boys goat status.

The only thing Kabib has in common with GOAT is the beard...
 
BusterBarry said:
You mix alot of lies in your posts

Tony got his arm broken in R2. He lost R1 on all 3 judges scorecard.

“I left it out there, and I ate it up with a pair of kicks – some roundhouse kicks from Michael Johnson,” Ferguson told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). “It broke the ulna. It burst like a firecracker. It was round two. It was maybe two-and-a-quarter minutes into round two.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mmajun...ony-ferguson-itching-to-book-return-fight/amp





Cowbum has not submitted any decent fighter but Perry of his back. Is cowbum even a blackbelt ...

Opportunistic sub hunters like Cowbum and el knockdown will never submit a high level grappler like Khabib. They will get their ugly faces caved in trying to play cute from their back LOL
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Was it rd 2? Thought it was rd 1, not a lie if you remember it wrong. Also nobody has caved in Cowboys face on the ground, he has a very good guard. I can tell by your pfp and your yellow card that you are a very unbiased and level headed person. Anyways it's pointless arguing with somebody that uses words like "cowbum" have a good day sir.
 
So he beat 3 guys on an imaginary list and then retired. And that makes him the GOAT? It must be nice to live in Fantasyland. Too bad he ducked a 40 year old retired fighter, instead of following father’s plan.
 
Masturbin said:
Jones has as much title defenses as Khabib has fights in the ufc.
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Jones has as many asterisks as khabib has ufc fights.. let's be honest, post USADA Jones hasn't been as 'dynamic' as he use to be....
 
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