Why Jon is still the GOAT

[Significance Deficit]

Also, this is not about PEDs or steroids or whatever. This is just another reason for his haters to bash him even more.

I mean, TRT Vitor is a legend on here

Lol at this bullshit. I was saying Vitor should've had to earn a new title shot after he went off the TRT prior to Weidman. Literally two different guys, his win streak meant nothing at that point. He was an animal during those fights and they look great on highlight reels but ultimately, they're meaningless.

Same with Jones. The GOAT discussion is donezo. He's out of the running. We all knew he was cheating prior to this, now we have the proof. Don't need to be a hater to see that.

 

[Rudeboyben84]

Jones failing a test doesn't stop him being the best fighter but it's a knock on his legacy all the same. Estrogen blockers are a PED all the same. Higher levels or testosterone is what steroids and trt are for too, same ballpark.

Jones cheated, as good as he is he is wasting his prime years banned from the sport and that's what will effect his legacy

 

[anthony stark]

Jones isn't goat. He's a fuckin lion

 

[ilfirin]

No he's not.

 

[The guest]

 

[$uicideboy$]

No you didn't. You named a bunch of silly emotional statements that are not factual whatsoever.

i actually did lol

 

[Chromosome47]

Hes one of the GOATs, an idiot, but one of the GOATs none the less.

 

[Michael Wright]

From what I have observed there seems to be two different approaches posters on Sherdog take when it comes to discussing PEDs.

One reasons that every fighter is clean unless they have failed a drug test, arguing that there is no actual proof or evidence to say that the fighter was using something. Using this line of reasoning, which so many of you do, we can look at Jon and see, he only popped for estrogen blockers. Not steroids, hgh, epo or any other serious PED. There is no actual proof (which you so badly crave in every situtation) he was ever juicing. Jon is innocent, and still #1.

The second approach is when they say they don't need direct evidence or absolute proof because red flags, common sense and basic knowledge about sports is enough to safely say pro athletes at the top level are all using PEDs. This is the same group of people who will see Jon popping for estrogen blockers and say hes juicing, despite there not being any direct evidence of this. This line of reasoning requires all top fighters to be thought of as juicers, ESPECIALLY those with red flags/those who fought when testing was lacking (pre usada). Meaning Jon was dirty, just like everyone else. This means Jon is still #1.

You haters celebrated too early, failing to see your hypocrisy. Jon is still undeniably the GOAT.

bones bless

#Jonesdoesntmatteranymore

 

[Michael Wright]

Can someone explain to me how an athlete who has ben outed for doping is anything other than a fraud?

BTW He wasn't even the best ever BEFORE this!

 

[Leinster Rugby]

I was a massive bones fan, defended him every time he fucked up.

Just can't do it anymore. Fucker has broken my poor little heart-let.

 

[$uicideboy$]

with jones recent suspension i felt this thread was worthy of a bump. seems like a lot of people forgot

 

[ClckwrkOra]

From what I have observed there seems to be two different approaches posters on Sherdog take when it comes to discussing PEDs.

One reasons that every fighter is clean unless they have failed a drug test, arguing that there is no actual proof or evidence to say that the fighter was using something. Using this line of reasoning, which so many of you do, we can look at Jon and see, he only popped for estrogen blockers. Not steroids, hgh, epo or any other serious PED. There is no actual proof (which you so badly crave in every situtation) he was ever juicing. Jon is innocent, and still #1.

The second approach is when they say they don't need direct evidence or absolute proof because red flags, common sense and basic knowledge about sports is enough to safely say pro athletes at the top level are all using PEDs. This is the same group of people who will see Jon popping for estrogen blockers and say hes juicing, despite there not being any direct evidence of this. This line of reasoning requires all top fighters to be thought of as juicers, ESPECIALLY those with red flags/those who fought when testing was lacking (pre usada). Meaning Jon was dirty, just like everyone else. This means Jon is still #1.

You haters celebrated too early, failing to see your hypocrisy. Jon is still undeniably the GOAT.

bones bless

If you don't have direct evidence that someone has done something wrong, what is it you do have?

Theories are great. But if you can't support them with evidence, then you've just got a theory.

 

[K1MMA]

 

[$uicideboy$]

If you don't have direct evidence that someone has done something wrong, what is it you do have?

Theories are great. But if you can't support them with evidence, then you've just got a theory.

that is basically what i said

 

[$uicideboy$]

with the recent events at ufc 210 - such as rumble mentally quitting 2 seconds into the fight (legit lol at anyone who thought he was the guy to beat jones) and DC failing to make weight just to cheat his way to a championship fight, i felt that this thread, almost a year later and with jones having 0 fights since its creation... is perhaps more relevant than ever

bones bless

 

[ocfightfan]

Why does the GOAT who is still in his 20's need dick pills? And why did these dicks pills come in a box with the same drug that he got busted for? Mysteries abound.

 

[JonesBonesJonny]

From what I have observed there seems to be two different approaches posters on Sherdog take when it comes to discussing PEDs.

One reasons that every fighter is clean unless they have failed a drug test, arguing that there is no actual proof or evidence to say that the fighter was using something. Using this line of reasoning, which so many of you do, we can look at Jon and see, he only popped for estrogen blockers. Not steroids, hgh, epo or any other serious PED. There is no actual proof (which you so badly crave in every situtation) he was ever juicing. Jon is innocent, and still #1.

The second approach is when they say they don't need direct evidence or absolute proof because red flags, "common sense" and basic knowledge about sports is enough to safely say pro athletes at the top level are all using PEDs. This is the same group of people who will see Jon popping for estrogen blockers and say hes juicing, despite there not being any direct evidence of this. This line of reasoning requires all top fighters to be thought of as juicers, ESPECIALLY those with red flags/those who fought when testing was lacking (pre usada). Meaning Jon was dirty, just like everyone else. This means Jon is still #1.

You haters celebrated too early, failing to see your hypocrisy. Jon is still undeniably the GOAT.

bones bless

What do you think estrogen blockers are for? Stop being biased, you know and the nuthuggers know he juiced. It is a FACT. He wasn't suspended for a year for nothing dumbass

 

[BALLERSTATUSMCG]

PEDs in his system. Popped by usada. Cried like a bitch. Suspended by usada. Can't fight. Not GOAT. Pre usada era he was goat. But not anymore.

 

[bladee]

#Jonesdoesntmatteranymore

yes he does m8