Why Jon is still the GOAT

[myjohnson9]

quality > quantity

You obviously weren't around to respect the quality of wins Fedor had. Fedor beat the old generation of fighters plus his generation. Jones didn't even clean out his generation and 3-2 decisioned the guys from his era that he did fight. Also jones has 22 wins and didn't fight a named opponent til his 8th fight. Fedor was fighting guys like arona and babalu in his first 7 fights.

Fedors first 32 fights > jons first 22 fights

 

[Claude]

quality > quantity

Then Fedor wins too.

 

[scardera]

PED fraud cheater cant be GOAT sorry

 

[$uicideboy$]

didn't fight a named opponent til his 8th fight. Fedor was fighting guys like arona and babalu in his first 7 fights.

wow what a difference

Then Fedor wins too.

DC is better than anyone fedor ever fought

 

[MuyThaiElbows]

Silva is GOAT as of today.

Fedor gets beat up by cans, GSP is in hiding, and Jones is being harassed and can't focus on the things he needs to.

Silva reigned in a division full of hungry contenders and finished some of he best names in MMA. People want to talk about fighting at different weight classes, well, Anderson fought three times outside of 185 in the UFC. His most recent 205 fight was against the current LHW champion and former HW champion.

Fedor can't even beat MW's and LHW's, while GSP is calling out the weakness champion that has ever been in Bisping.

 

[filthynumber1]

From what I have observed there seems to be two different approaches posters on Sherdog take when it comes to discussing PEDs.

One reasons that every fighter is clean unless they have failed a drug test, arguing that there is no actual proof or evidence to say that the fighter was using something. Using this line of reasoning, which so many of you do, we can look at Jon and see, he only popped for estrogen blockers. Not steroids, hgh, epo or any other serious PED. There is no actual proof (which you so badly crave in every situtation) he was ever juicing. Jon is innocent, and still #1.

The second approach is when they say they don't need direct evidence or absolute proof because red flags, common sense and basic knowledge about sports is enough to safely say pro athletes at the top level are all using PEDs. This is the same group of people who will see Jon popping for estrogen blockers and say hes juicing, despite there not being any direct evidence of this. This line of reasoning requires all top fighters to be thought of as juicers, ESPECIALLY those with red flags/those who fought when testing was lacking (pre usada). Meaning Jon was dirty, just like everyone else. This means Jon is still #1.

You haters celebrated too early, failing to see your hypocrisy. Jon is still undeniably the GOAT.

bones bless

 

[myjohnson9]

wow what a difference

DC is better than anyone fedor ever fought

The next generation of fans won't know anybody jones beat either. Doesn't surprise me that Kylie Jenner doesn't understand last decades mma. CC quite possibly could've KO'd DC in his prime, but we will never know.

Fans like you will always think the new fighter is better and change your goat every 6 months. Hell before the werdum fight people were calling Cain the goat.

I don't think jones could beat DC without cheating. DC is a hell of a fighter and has already cleaned out the division better than jones ever did

 

[$uicideboy$]

The next generation of fans won't know anybody jones beat either. Doesn't surprise me that Kylie Jenner doesn't understand last decades mma. CC quite possibly could've KO'd DC in his prime, but we will never know.

Fans like you will always think the new fighter is better and change your goat every 6 months. Hell before the werdum fight people were calling Cain the goat.

I don't think jones could beat DC without cheating. DC is a hell of a fighter and has already cleaned out the division better than jones ever did

ok you are a confirmed goof

 

[Claude]

wow what a difference

DC is better than anyone fedor ever fought

Wrong.

Nog > DC

 

[leatherneck]

congrats on your logic, youve decided to ignore the PED part.

now do that with every fighter, forever.

you will find the sport much more enjoyable than PED witch hunting

 

[$uicideboy$]

Wrong.

Nog > DC

thats definitely not true

fact is, back in the 2000s the sport was still so young and many fighters were still one dimensional
as the sport has grown older and gotten bigger, its literally only natural for todays fighters to be better
training, techniques, strategies and the fighters, everything has evolved
its like this in pretty much every sport

 

[FimbulFightPicks]

STFU ABOUT ALL THESE SHITTY GOAT TOPICS...can´t it just be one week without a goat topic...you think hes the goat cool gtfo move on...seriously..

 

[Squarechoke]

Jones got caught cheating with not only one, but two banned substances. That's all we need. It's hilarious to see Jones fans cling on to "but, but, but, everyone..." as your general religious nut about his unverifiable ideas. Of course before Jones got caught they were all saying that you can't say that he's cheated due to weird testosterone levels in the past since he never tested positive for PED's.

He of course still had a weak claim on being the GOAT anyway since there are two fighters that hold more top wins, longer title reigns and were more dominant in two different ways than Jones (more complete domination and more finishes respectively). And one of them was never caught cheating, as a bonus. But him being cheating scum is still enough.

 

[Claude]

thats definitely not true

fact is, back in the 2000s the sport was still so young and many fighters were still one dimensional
as the sport has grown older and gotten bigger, its literally only natural for todays fighters to be better
training, techniques, strategies and the fighters, everything has evolved
its like this in pretty much every sport

Agreed.

Hunt, Overeem, Nogueira, Barnett, Arlovski, Barnett, Werdum, etc. these guys are simply the evolution of the sport. No way those old one dimensional fighters from the 2000s could ever compete with these new breed of fighters.

DC is definitely the pinnacle of MMA's evolution. Never have we seen a wrestler with heavy hands in MMA. That is just unprecedented. Those kind of fighters simply didn't exists in the 2000s.

 

[HeexX]

Don't think his blockers helped him improve his skill set.

He is the greatest fighter to ever step into the octagon.

That's a silly argument. You can train that much harder when you cheat, which helps develop your skillset. Your skillset also get sharper since you get in better shape physically.

Also, you don't just take estrogen blockers. You take them to not get bitch tits after a testosterone cycle. It's glaringly obvious what has been going on here.

 

[HeexX]

i explain that in the OP

No you didn't. You named a bunch of silly emotional statements that are not factual whatsoever.

 

[Ruthless_RL]

Unbeaten. Always dominate other fighter. Jon GOAT Jones.

 

[yeguiza]

war jbj

fuck haters

jones beat you all

and

you all roid btw

 

[Tankeray]

Cuz he good

 

[Limbo Pete]

God I love this shit.