Why isn't Wingchun used in UFC

[dembones22]

As you can see from the video, a proper Wingchun master can easily counter the powerful but predictable shots of even the best boxers.
Wingchun's advantage lies in science, the ability to redirect your opponents power and use it against himself while using little of your own energy.

It was made to enable even the most physically weakest people to overpower bigger stronger opponents.

Most guys in the UFC throw only big slow power punches don't you think someone with faster unpredictable wingchun would be able to counter them with ease?

WHY ISN'T THE UFC USED IN WINGCHUN ??


WHY ISN'T A FOOTLONG SANWHICH AT SUBWAY 12 INCHES LONG ??



WHY DO LESBIANS BANG EACHOTHER WITH STRAPONS ??

 

[x__stylez__x]

Funny shit

 

[TUFNewb]

Lol wing chun masters would get ktfo'd by the drunken tough guy at your local pub trying to deflect punches like that smh...

 

[fastone]

Video made me lol

 

[tonni]

that guy is a boxer?

 

[TAK47]

 

[MacDuffle]

No one you're stupid enough to actually believe this.

No-One we stupid for reading your sentence

No-One must eat do not poke tiny OP man he does not have enough meat on his fleshy bone we knows this

Eat nice yummy stadium peoples with no leathery bits tied to their knees

 

[Rudeboyben84]

Forget MMA, wingchun can so obviously beat boxing at throwing hands some wingchung guys should go take all the boxing titles and make their millions.

Can’t beleive Mayweather went undefeated so long without someone wingchuning his ass...

 

[ZombieXIV]

That's like asking why yoga isn't used in mma.

 

[Sano]

The "boxer" is pretty terrible. He looks like someone with no fight experience.

Wing Chun guy is good at hand trapping and occupying the centerline, which is what Wing Chun has going for it, but he is slappy and would get laid out with any step in punch, especially an overhand reaching like that.

Good they are having fun, but that's like very low level newbie gym sparring. Shouldn't be promoted as anything serious.

 

[Swarthy]

I'll die a Wing Chun man.

Massivly under-rated response for a thread like this!! Props man hahahahahaha

I had some idiot at a pub pull a Wing Chun stance on me back in my bouncer days. I threw a lazy left Jab he slapped it away but missed the right Elbow I cannoned into the side of his face.

I actually know quite a few decent practioners of Wing Chun and have alot of respect for their art.
But in terms of pratical application vs anyone trained in a competitive or real life application take down self defence art or MMA etc its impact would be minimal.

Vs some drunk who is trying to touch your girls ass you could probably chain punch him into bolivan and be a hero.

It is one of the most visually stunning martial arts to see done properly.

 

[Swarthy]

That's like asking why yoga isn't used in mma.

But it is. For training and recovery at any rate.

 

[emax]

I would think that undoubtedly there exists Wing Chun experts somewhere who can and have made their style as effective as boxing for self defense, street or parking lot fight scenarios. Just as with Muay Thai, Kyokushin, Tae Kwon Do, Savate and other European kickobxing and Sanda. When it comes to sport scenario, a fighting art has to be trained in a very specific style; Muay Thai, BJJ and wrestling are just too well established relative to other fighting arts to be replaced as the base for most elite level MMA fighters. I would imagine if someone was determiend enough tye could find a way to make Wing Chun or Sanshou/Sanda take its place alongside Muay Thai as a primary striking base for UFC fighters but the incentive isn't really there.

 

[Muppettoker]

Wasn’t this guy trying to use interceptions against Diaz

 

[Hotora86]

Wingchun's advantage lies in science, the ability to redirect your opponents power and use it against himself while using little of your own energy.

It was made to enable even the most physically weakest people to overpower bigger stronger opponents.

You just described Judo and BJJ. Wing Chun isn't exactly famous for those things.

Look, the only legit Wing Chun man to step into the MMA cage is Shawn Obasi - and he lost:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Shawn-Obasi-84513

Citing Bruce Lee doesn't help either. There's a good reason why Bruce started cross-training every martial art he could get his hands on - because WC was not enough.

WC can be surprising in a fight simply because it's so different from the expected jabs and haymakers - but in a cage against a pro it's gonna be figured out in minutes.

For self defense - ok, even WC is better than nothing. But for MMA - not that great. I'd be happy to see it done well in the cage, it would be something new and exciting, but so far nobody has been able to use it effectively.

 

[eternaldarkness]

You just described Judo and BJJ. Wing Chun isn't exactly famous for those things.

Look, the only legit Wing Chun man to step into the MMA cage is Shawn Obasi - and he lost:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Shawn-Obasi-84513

Citing Bruce Lee doesn't help either. There's a good reason why Bruce started cross-training every martial art he could get his hands on - because WC was not enough.

WC can be surprising in a fight simply because it's so different from the expected jabs and haymakers - but in a cage against a pro it's gonna be figured out in minutes.

For self defense - ok, even WC is better than nothing. But for MMA - not that great. I'd be happy to see it done well in the cage, it would be something new and exciting, but so far nobody has been able to use it effectively.

it's not in legit mma. but there is an amateur mma fight called kung fu vs karate that is definitely worth a watch. it is one of the few times i have seen a traditional martial art look like its meant to.

 

[Yamcha]

Wing chun is designed for street fighting primarily. Aka where you won't typically see mma fighters/warriors. you didn't see so many grapplers in China hundreds of years back either.

Taking away eye throat and groin attacks really neuter it.

All that's left is footwork, parries/handfighting and some unusual punches.

Another issue too is that only a few guys with reflexes like Silva and crazy dedication could have taken it to the next level anyway. Most talented fighters simply don't believe in it enough off of reputation or they don't want to put the work in to master it's footwork, principles and handfighting/punching techniques.

If applied with wrestling and boxing from a guy with great reflexes it would shine in mma.

But it's not built for wrestling and a well trained and seasoned boxer will walk the wing chun man down and likely knock him out. But those boxers are superior physical specimens typically due to the nature of their being built for combat amongst other face punchers and regular matches against trained opponents.

Wing chun schools don't typically train that way as it's more about random encounters and ambushes and to efficiently brutalize someone while minimizing risk and being able to dip or move on to the next threat.

Some day somebody will take it to the next level though, someone like I said who wrestles, boxes and has great reflexes.

Or a Muay Thai/bjj combo like werdum would allow wing chun to work as a middle ground similarly to the wrestleboxer.

It doesn't pair well with karate or any of those types, but so long as they're similarly skill/conditioning levels, wing chun fighters wreck any of the tkd karate types imo. Matches up too well.

Someday though it'll get its shine. But no exclusive wc fighter will do much unless he's like ngannou level talented haha, it's just not built for mma. It needs to be mixed with boxing/Muay Thai's conditioning and the additional moves don't hurt, and the grappling base of jujitsu or wrestling for at least defensive purposes minimally.

I'm still a believer though, just a realist. And if my endeavors in life end up panning out I will put my money where my mouth is and train those systems.

Edit to add: I forgot to mention wing Chuns knee and elbow attacks, and to add to the boxer/Muay Thai combo explanation: those systems standing knock out tenchiqhes are the primary reason to combo them, especially boxing. These knock out blows are needed to replace the throat eye and groin attacks, as you need real sting, real threats otherwise your wc straight punches and hand fighting lead only to slap fights as above posters have said.

 

[emax]

Wing chun is designed for street fighting primarily. Aka where you won't typically see mma fighters/warriors. you didn't see so many grapplers in China hundreds of years back either.

Taking away eye throat and groin attacks really neuter it.

All that's left is footwork, parries/handfighting and some unusual punches.

Another issue too is that only a few guys with reflexes like Silva and crazy dedication could have taken it to the next level anyway. Most talented fighters simply don't believe in it enough off of reputation or they don't want to put the work in to master it's footwork, principles and handfighting/punching techniques.

If applied with wrestling and boxing from a guy with great reflexes it would shine in mma.

But it's not built for wrestling and a well trained and seasoned boxer will walk the wing chun man down and likely knock him out. But those boxers are superior physical specimens typically due to the nature of their being built for combat amongst other face punchers and regular matches against trained opponents.

Wing chun schools don't typically train that way as it's more about random encounters and ambushes and to efficiently brutalize someone while minimizing risk and being able to dip or move on to the next threat.

Some day somebody will take it to the next level though, someone like I said who wrestles, boxes and has great reflexes.

Or a Muay Thai/bjj combo like werdum would allow wing chun to work as a middle ground similarly to the wrestleboxer.

It doesn't pair well with karate or any of those types, but so long as they're similarly skill/conditioning levels, wing chun fighters wreck any of the tkd karate types imo. Matches up too well.

Someday though it'll get its shine. But no exclusive wc fighter will do much unless he's like ngannou level talented haha, it's just not built for mma. It needs to be mixed with boxing/Muay Thai's conditioning and the additional moves don't hurt, and the grappling base of jujitsu or wrestling for at least defensive purposes minimally.

I'm still a believer though, just a realist. And if my endeavors in life end up panning out I will put my money where my mouth is and train those systems.

Edit to add: I forgot to mention wing Chuns knee and elbow attacks, and to add to the boxer/Muay Thai combo explanation: those systems standing knock out tenchiqhes are the primary reason to combo them, especially boxing. These knock out blows are needed to replace the throat eye and groin attacks, as you need real sting, real threats otherwise your wc straight punches and hand fighting lead only to slap fights as above posters have said.

It seems as though you're suggesting that if a Wing Chun expert had the athletic attributes, natural born desire for combat sports and years of training in full contact fighting that a prominent professional boxer had that they would eventually be able to adapt to a boxing style and be able to fight as well a s a boxer can. Do you feel that is the case?

 

[ftpngo]

Wasn’t this guy trying to use interceptions against Diaz

I remember that. The guy was practicing it in the octagon before the fight started. I remember rogan said something like I hope he doesn't try that in the fight he'll get smashed. He did and he did.

 

[Oooxente]

All wire they had they used to make the cage.

They can’t fly/fight properly without it.