Why is UFC still too scared to do 5 title fights in one night?

[Metheus]

And what would you do for PPVs for the next 8 months after that? Interim belts galore?

Come on now, use your brain.

 

[Kidney Punch]

Agree with nearly all of the points already made, but I want to add just one more thing. Sure, it'd be awesome for that one night (for us fans), but business-wise, it gets to a point where adding another title fight won't bring more PPV buys. The people who would watch that card would've watched it even with just two title fights, especially if LW is one of them.

 

[Wariowokecancel]

On PPV there are normally five main card fights..... so make each one a championship bout. Five in a row. With nine weight classes currently in the UFC there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do this, especially with the proper planning. So what the hell is the deal? Why haven't we seen it yet?

Five title fights equals a maximum potential 125 minutes (if every fight goes to a decision) plus about 10 - 12 minutes between each fight. Time wise, that would be 173 minutes for all the fights (plus 10 minutes for misc). So that's 183 minutes total, worst case scenario. That's barely a tick over 3 hours. UFC could EASILY book a 3 hour time slot for the show. If a few of the fights end in finishes then UFC can fill the remaining time with prelim fights and other MMA-related media.

If one of the fights falls out due to injury, have a backup planned, and either make it an interim-title fight (challenger vs challenger) or a new title fight (champion vs replacement challenger). Or call up one of the other champions in a different class to defend their belt. Simple.

With 4 other champions on the roster who wouldn't be fighting on this card, there's no worry of a championship drought during the subsequent 3-4 PPVs.

At this stage of the game, there's no good reason for UFC not to do a mega card like this. If they hyped it correctly and put it in the right venue (maybe Cowboy's Stadium) it'd possibly be the biggest selling card in UFC history. Probably by a long shot. It may even be able to hit 2 million buys.

HW Championship
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WW Championship
LW Championship

Talk about epic. So why is UFC still too scared to do this?

Then fucking book the rest of the year.

This shit is called hot shotting and has killed dozens of businesses in wrestling. Except in wrestling the champs fight 300 days a night.

There is no champ in the UFC who fights more than twice a year - put them all on one card and hold your dick for the rest of the year.

 

[TinkleMan]

They'll probably do it for like ufc 500 which is like in 40-50 years or something

 

[AtaTheCrow]

On PPV there are normally five main card fights..... so make each one a championship bout. Five in a row. With nine weight classes currently in the UFC there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do this, especially with the proper planning. So what the hell is the deal? Why haven't we seen it yet?

Five title fights equals a maximum potential 125 minutes (if every fight goes to a decision) plus about 10 - 12 minutes between each fight. Time wise, that would be 173 minutes for all the fights (plus 10 minutes for misc). So that's 183 minutes total, worst case scenario. That's barely a tick over 3 hours. UFC could EASILY book a 3 hour time slot for the show. If a few of the fights end in finishes then UFC can fill the remaining time with prelim fights and other MMA-related media.

If one of the fights falls out due to injury, have a backup planned, and either make it an interim-title fight (challenger vs challenger) or a new title fight (champion vs replacement challenger). Or call up one of the other champions in a different class to defend their belt. Simple.

With 4 other champions on the roster who wouldn't be fighting on this card, there's no worry of a championship drought during the subsequent 3-4 PPVs.

At this stage of the game, there's no good reason for UFC not to do a mega card like this. If they hyped it correctly and put it in the right venue (maybe Cowboy's Stadium) it'd possibly be the biggest selling card in UFC history. Probably by a long shot. It may even be able to hit 2 million buys.

HW Championship
LHW Championship
MW Championship
WW Championship
LW Championship

Talk about epic. So why is UFC still too scared to do this?

Scared?

they are not so stupid mate... really you dont understand why, or do you just want to troll?

 

[Rvd Slmr]

At this stage of the game, there's no good reason for UFC not to do a mega card like this. If they hyped it correctly and put it in the right venue (maybe Cowboy's Stadium) it'd possibly be the biggest selling card in UFC history. Probably by a long shot. It may even be able to hit 2 million buys.

The problem is pretty simple: PPV numbers don't add up.

Diaz vs. McGregor 2 did 1,6 million, Lesnar vs Carwin did 1,16 million and Rousey vs Holm did 1,1 million. Since tons of individuals bought two or three of those cards, a card with these three fights would not have made the combined 3,86 millions PPV buys. Breaking the 2 millions bar would already be incredible.

If you already attract most of the hardcore and the casuals, making a better card isn't going to attract anyone else. It's better for the UFC to spread out their best fights, so people buy it more often.

 

[MMAProfessional]

On PPV there are normally five main card fights..... so make each one a championship bout. Five in a row. With nine weight classes currently in the UFC there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do this, especially with the proper planning. So what the hell is the deal? Why haven't we seen it yet?

Five title fights equals a maximum potential 125 minutes (if every fight goes to a decision) plus about 10 - 12 minutes between each fight. Time wise, that would be 173 minutes for all the fights (plus 10 minutes for misc). So that's 183 minutes total, worst case scenario. That's barely a tick over 3 hours. UFC could EASILY book a 3 hour time slot for the show. If a few of the fights end in finishes then UFC can fill the remaining time with prelim fights and other MMA-related media.

If one of the fights falls out due to injury, have a backup planned, and either make it an interim-title fight (challenger vs challenger) or a new title fight (champion vs replacement challenger). Or call up one of the other champions in a different class to defend their belt. Simple.

With 4 other champions on the roster who wouldn't be fighting on this card, there's no worry of a championship drought during the subsequent 3-4 PPVs.

At this stage of the game, there's no good reason for UFC not to do a mega card like this. If they hyped it correctly and put it in the right venue (maybe Cowboy's Stadium) it'd possibly be the biggest selling card in UFC history. Probably by a long shot. It may even be able to hit 2 million buys.

HW Championship
LHW Championship
MW Championship
WW Championship
LW Championship

Talk about epic. So why is UFC still too scared to do this?

Too long and that leaves shit cards and no PPVs for 6 months or longer.

Did you think this through at all? Do you have basic business skills? Do you think that they could generate enough money with one big event to make up for multiple PPVs they could put on if they spread the champion fights out?

 

[moogie101]

Business wise it doesn't make sense to sacrifice several paydays for one larger one. Especially as with the current state of slumping PPV sales there's no guarantee that stacking a card would generate a significant boost to PPV numbers to offset the cost of putting on such an expensive card.

Main reason is UFC 33. Three title fights in one night Pulver vs. Hallman, Menne vs. Castillo & Tito vs. Matyushenko all went the distance, plus so did the other two main event card fights Serra vs. Yves & Chuck vs. Bustamante. This led to the PPV running over its scheduled time & many cable customers losing broadcast halfway through the main event which led to a LOT of refunds. A five title fight card would need to be at least a four hour PPV just in case a similar thing happened which is not cost effective.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

3 or 4 is enough, but if they keep adding divisions it’s possible.

 

[Aforo88]

On PPV there are normally five main card fights..... so make each one a championship bout. Five in a row. With nine weight classes currently in the UFC there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do this, especially with the proper planning. So what the hell is the deal? Why haven't we seen it yet?

Five title fights equals a maximum potential 125 minutes (if every fight goes to a decision) plus about 10 - 12 minutes between each fight. Time wise, that would be 173 minutes for all the fights (plus 10 minutes for misc). So that's 183 minutes total, worst case scenario. That's barely a tick over 3 hours. UFC could EASILY book a 3 hour time slot for the show. If a few of the fights end in finishes then UFC can fill the remaining time with prelim fights and other MMA-related media.

If one of the fights falls out due to injury, have a backup planned, and either make it an interim-title fight (challenger vs challenger) or a new title fight (champion vs replacement challenger). Or call up one of the other champions in a different class to defend their belt. Simple.

With 4 other champions on the roster who wouldn't be fighting on this card, there's no worry of a championship drought during the subsequent 3-4 PPVs.

At this stage of the game, there's no good reason for UFC not to do a mega card like this. If they hyped it correctly and put it in the right venue (maybe Cowboy's Stadium) it'd possibly be the biggest selling card in UFC history. Probably by a long shot. It may even be able to hit 2 million buys.

HW Championship
LHW Championship
MW Championship
WW Championship
LW Championship

Talk about epic. So why is UFC still too scared to do this?

What will happen to the rest of their cards and ppvs? U sure this is a good busines move?

 

[Seaside]

There are enough divisions to do it.

But you champs to average 2x to 3x a year of title defenses. And well some dont do that.

Id like to see 4 on 1 card. Idk why not. 5x is quite a lot be honest.

 

[Seaside]

Business wise it doesn't make sense to sacrifice several paydays for one larger one. Especially as with the current state of slumping PPV sales there's no guarantee that stacking a card would generate a significant boost to PPV numbers to offset the cost of putting on such an expensive card.

Main reason is UFC 33. Three title fights in one night Pulver vs. Hallman, Menne vs. Castillo & Tito vs. Matyushenko all went the distance, plus so did the other two main event card fights Serra vs. Yves & Chuck vs. Bustamante. This led to the PPV running over its scheduled time & many cable customers losing broadcast halfway through the main event which led to a LOT of refunds. A five title fight card would need to be at least a four hour PPV just in case a similar thing happened which is not cost effective.

4x could easily happen. Ufc 33 is not relevant in this day and age.

3 or 4 is enough, but if they keep adding divisions it’s possible.

Anyone who wants more divisions should have stroke. NOOOO except maybe for women.

 

[ThunderL1ps]

Would not sell.

 

[Mau]

Keep whining about comic book movies in the Mayberry, that's more your thing.

 

[Adamant]

Ok playing devils advocate. Which order would you put the fights in?

I suppose order of weight. It depends on who's champion though. If Khabib represent the LW title, then he can go on first. But if Conor represents the LW title, then he'd either Main or Co-Main Event.

And what would you do for PPVs for the next 8 months after that? Interim belts galore?

Come on now, use your brain.

Then fucking book the rest of the year.

This shit is called hot shotting and has killed dozens of businesses in wrestling. Except in wrestling the champs fight 300 days a night.

There is no champ in the UFC who fights more than twice a year - put them all on one card and hold your dick for the rest of the year.

Come on guys, there's 7 other champions if you count the women. It wouldn't be hard.

The problem is pretty simple: PPV numbers don't add up.

Diaz vs. McGregor 2 did 1,6 million, Lesnar vs Carwin did 1,16 million and Rousey vs Holm did 1,1 million. Since tons of individuals bought two or three of those cards, a card with these three fights would not have made the combined 3,86 millions PPV buys. Breaking the 2 millions bar would already be incredible.

If you already attract most of the hardcore and the casuals, making a better card isn't going to attract anyone else. It's better for the UFC to spread out their best fights, so people buy it more often.

Well if you hyped it accordingly, like if UFC went all out, bigger than they've ever gone before hype-wise, and put it in a venue like Cowboy's Stadium, it could work. At least netting it close to 2 million buys.

If they hyped it like they do current PPVs and just put it in Vegas, it wouldn't do nearly as well.

 

[Rvd Slmr]

Well if you hyped it accordingly, like if UFC went all out, bigger than they've ever gone before hype-wise, and put it in a venue like Cowboy's Stadium, it could work. At least netting it close to 2 million buys.

It's still the same issue, the hype will only work on those who already care. Past those demographics, it becomes exponentially harder to get more people interested.

 

[Adamant]

It's still the same issue, the hype will only work on those who already care. Past those demographics, it becomes exponentially harder to get more people interested.

Right, but that's why they'd have to go above and beyond when selling the idea of buying the PPV to the masses. Don't just sell it with the same old song and dance the same old way. You gotta go bigger and broader. And by putting it in a place like Cowboy's Stadium, you really sell the idea that this is the event of a lifetime. Like take Vince McMahon with Wrestlemania 1. It was the biggest wrestling event in history at that point and Vince hyped it like nothing else had been hyped before in wrestling, and it worked. People tuned in. I think he ended up losing money on it but the event itself was such a humongous spectacle that it was a benefit for the company and a major success in the long run. All the extra money to put it on was worth it because it brought in so many new people.

It may or may not be that positive of an outcome for the UFC, but dammit, it's time for a full main card to be nothing but title fights. With 12 champions total, putting 5 on one card wouldn't hurt them.

 

[SirKratos]

Because it doesn't make sense for business reasons.

Imagine if a Conor title fight is the headliner and lets say its going to sell 1.5m PPV because of it.

Having 4 other title fights in there doesn't add much numbers, maybe an extra 100k, because all those people are going to buy the card anyway cause of that one headliner. Instead they could spread those other title fights to other events and make 200k-400k from each of those events.

 

[SirKratos]

Right, but that's why they'd have to go above and beyond when selling the idea of buying the PPV to the masses. Don't just sell it with the same old song and dance the same old way. You gotta go bigger and broader. And by putting it in a place like Cowboy's Stadium, you really sell the idea that this is the event of a lifetime. Like take Vince McMahon with Wrestlemania 1. It was the biggest wrestling event in history at that point and Vince hyped it like nothing else had been hyped before in wrestling, and it worked. People tuned in. I think he ended up losing money on it but the event itself was such a humongous spectacle that it was a benefit for the company and a major success in the long run. All the extra money to put it on was worth it because it brought in so many new people.

It may or may not be that positive of an outcome for the UFC, but dammit, it's time for a full main card to be nothing but title fights. With 12 champions total, putting 5 on one card wouldn't hurt them.

Vince had plenty of actual stars who puts butts in seats. Dana has one or two. Therefore having more than 2 big title fights is an overkill for UFC

 

[FrankieNYC]

Right, but that's why they'd have to go above and beyond when selling the idea of buying the PPV to the masses. Don't just sell it with the same old song and dance the same old way. You gotta go bigger and broader. And by putting it in a place like Cowboy's Stadium, you really sell the idea that this is the event of a lifetime. Like take Vince McMahon with Wrestlemania 1. It was the biggest wrestling event in history at that point and Vince hyped it like nothing else had been hyped before in wrestling, and it worked. People tuned in. I think he ended up losing money on it but the event itself was such a humongous spectacle that it was a benefit for the company and a major success in the long run. All the extra money to put it on was worth it because it brought in so many new people.

It may or may not be that positive of an outcome for the UFC, but dammit, it's time for a full main card to be nothing but title fights. With 12 champions total, putting 5 on one card wouldn't hurt them.

He made money off of Mania 1
If he didn't there would be no WWF/E
He put all his eggs in one basket (stupid saying lol) & the gamble worked.
But WWF & UFC are vastly different
WWF performers work 5-7x a week back then, they were not taking performers away for 6 months with Mania. UFC would be putting 5 champions & top contenders on ice at the same time