Why is Ronda’s competition level questioned and not Joanna Contender’s?

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  1. Natesblackshirt

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    Joanna won the title by beating Carla Esparza. She defended against some good names as did Ronda but she still fought Esparza, Valerie Letourneo, Jessica Penne etc.

    They both acted rude to their opponent before getting knocked out. In fact, Joanna was much ruder bringing up Rose’s mental history.

    Ronda beat more than one person with (ease) that hold stoppage wins over the current champ champ Nunes.

    Joanna also went MIA after the fight and made all kinds of excuses whereas Ronda just hid behind her pillow and shit in the woods for a couple weeks.

    Neither really gave their opponent credit, Joanna still thinks she’s better than Rose.

    Her striking sucks? Well it was good enough to knockout multiple chicks. Demian Maia and Ben Askren also can’t strike for shit so what?
     
  2. HHJ

    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

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    Both goddesses of fight. Away and bow your virginal head.
     
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    WMMA, it's all relative.
     
  4. SmilinDesperado

    SmilinDesperado Silver Belt

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    Joanna never said she could beat Cain "under the right circumstances", never talked about beating the male BWs, never talked about beating Floyd Mayweather, didn't get up in male's faces like she was ready to fight them--knowing damn well a dude wasn't going to swing on her, and all of the other delusional shit Ronda would say and do.
    I don't mind a bit of trash talk, but Ronda would often go full retard.

    lol Joanna didn't go MIA after her loss. She didn't hide. She said a lot of dumb shit, but she got back in there and fought. Ronda hid.
     
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    xhaydenx Purple Belt

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    wtf? Joanna didn't run and hide after she lost. She couldn't wait to get back in there. She hasn't really taken a break since.

    They were both assholes in the end, but as said, Ronda was worse, going on about beating Cain and Mayweather.
     
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    I think part of it is a reaction to Ronda's high profile in the sport, which felt unearned to a lot of fans.
     
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    TNGS1 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    A lot of Rondas opponents have legit wins that make her look great
    Example
    Julia budd -Valentina
    Liz C -Valentina
    Cat Zingano-Amanda nunes
    Miesha Tate-Holly Holm
     
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    I mean... they both fought women, soo...
     
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    FlyingDeathKick Black Belt

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    Joanna wanted a rematch and arguably won it. Ronda ran away and only came back because they agreed to allow her not to do any media. Joanna kept fighting despite her losses and also went up and challenged a girl that beat her 3x in kickboxing.
     
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    They all suck, who care
     
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    One was motivated by a loss (although admittedly hasn't seen great results, but hasn't been finished again and has shown toughness)
    The other was destroyed by a loss, leading to an even more embarrassing loss, then retirement
     
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    Because they hate Ronda so they will ignore Joanna.
     
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    the difference between them is Ronda knew when to tuck tail and bail whereas when JJ is 50 years old she will still believe the belt is hers for the taking.
     
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    When Joanna beat Andrade, Joanna made Ronda look "meh". Joanna has legit ring control and the ability to strike while strafing/back peddling, Joanna has also improved on her takedown defence and recovery, which we saw vs Claudia and Torres. Joanna somewhat evolved, Ronda didn't.
     
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    Bro, I don't understand WMMA mechanics.
     
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    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

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    so?
     
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    She was built up by her shit team, Joe & the fucking UFC.
    If anyone would have told her "play your natural game" she might still be around today.
     
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    Pretty clear decision for rose that second fight
     
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    that is still no reason to questioned her achievement.

    Ronday is one of the greats of WMMA, and so is Joana, all other matter will not change these facts.
     
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  20. SmilinDesperado

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    Joe and the rest of her hype machine didn't help, but I think that's also her natural personality.
    I forgot the story, but she had a shitty attitude in her loss at the Olympics (i think she didn't shake hands with the girl who beat her) , and she has told a story about her "beating up" a couple of guys in a movie theater. She just generally seems to have a pretty trash attitude.
    She would have definitely benefited from having a no-nonsense team/coach behind her, but she was more comfortable at a bum gym like Glendale, with a bum coach like Edmond. Never tried to evolve or challenge herself.
     

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