Why is pro-Russia sentiment so strong?

[Eloquent Dredge]

I honestly don't get it.

There are so many people in the west defending Russian actions and admiring their culture. People love Vladmir Putin and the likes of Kadyrov.

What on earth is there to like? How can anyone from a Western background like someone who murders journalists, rigs elections, plain annexes parts of other countries and commits open assassination of other countries civilians. Allowing things like concentration camps for homosexuals to occur under your leadership.

From my point of view, Russian culture is seriously strange. Bragging about your latest weapons developments, how my tank is better than your tank, how my jet fighter is better than your jet fighter, how my military is stronger than yours. How we developed weapons that can blast you off the face of the planet.

So the question is, why do so many people accept and even worse, admire, such a culture and country?

 

[K1levelgrappler]

To trigger the libs.

Next question.

 

[Rational Poster]

Because the Russians helped directly or indirectly elect Trump and that tarnishes his victory either way.

It hurts Trump-bots feelings so they need to make pretend they liked Russia all along.

 

[method115]

I think your exaggerating this "pro russia sentiment" and your comment on Russian culture reeks of someone who has absolutely no idea about Russians or their culture.

 

[Eloquent Dredge]

To trigger the libs.

Next question.

Their views go against all of Conservatism as well.

I'm pretty libertarian both socially and economically and I find what Russia stands for utterly disgusting.

I mean, sorry for invoking Godwins Law but it's like Nazi's praising Bolshevism to stick it to the Jewish people.

(Not stating anyone is a Nazi here, I'm using the example that Nazism hates Bolshevism and Judaism equally and it would be like siding with one to wind up the other).

 

[Eloquent Dredge]

I think your exaggerating this "pro russia sentiment" and your comment on Russian culture reeks of someone who has absolutely no idea about Russians or their culture.

On an in-depth level, you're right. I know very little about the micro-isms of Russian culture.

I'm talking about their macro-culture and the way they portray themselves internationally, globally and in transparent circles. They are not entirely inductive but does represent, to some degree, of Russian cultural sentiment.

 

[salamander]

Maybe they think the culture is macho? My nephews friend has a pink mullet(?) and he's 19, and the fact that he wears that hairstyle fearlessly tells me that certain trade-offs have been made during the course of the West's ascent into opulence.

Maybe the the people TS is refering to see the persona Putin has projected through a romancitized lens, and are nostolgic about some mythic "good 'ol day" before the very idea of masculinity was consdidered "toxic".

 

[Gutter Chris]

To trigger the libs.

Next question.

Thats my take as well

It seems that the republican party no longer has any real values other than trolling liberals so they cling to this idea that anything that makes liberals happy is a good thing due to how they have been conditioned.

SO that no ones feelings get hurt you do see this type of behavior on both sides but to stay honest you see way more of it on the right due to the actual political platform having almost no value I think

 

[Steve-French]

Pro Russia? Every time I turn around everything in the media seems to be anti Russian.

It's funny too, because you wouldn't hear a peep about them until the Democrats wanted to use them as scape goats for losing the election.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I think your exaggerating this "pro russia sentiment" and your comment on Russian culture reeks of someone who has absolutely no idea about Russians or their culture.

Let's see if anyone in the administration pays for their associations. It's surprisingly possible nobody will. And the attempt to undermine the investigation, and support of this among republicans who've lost their goddamned minds, is strong- as well as among Trump's supporters.

Pardon the cynicism.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Maybe they think the culture is macho? My nephews friend has a pink mullet(?) and he's 19, and the fact that he wears that hairstyle fearlessly tells me that certain trade-offs have been made during the course of the West's ascent into opulence.

I dont know man punk rocker types arent exactly a new thing but this right wing love of our nations greatest rival kind of is .

 

[Gutter Chris]

Pro Russia? Every time I turn around everything in the media seems to be anti Russia

Look at this board

Look at cints memes

Its not 100 percent mainstream its only going on with one of the tribes at the moment

Not that the other tribe doesnt have its problems as well we just arent having that discussion right now

 

[Gregolian]

Things that I think the Russians do right:

- Their women. The hot ones... *leofist.gif

- The choice of firearms.. Mosin and AK... both nearly indestrucitble

- There's a cool aspect to people that can live in literal real world Skyrim and make it work that's pretty awesome though the Scandinavians do that too.

 

[lfd0311]

obvious troll thread is too obvious.

 

[Eloquent Dredge]

Maybe they think the culture is macho? My nephews friend has a pink mullet(?) and he's 19, and the fact that he wears that hairstyle fearlessly tells me that certain trade-offs have been made during the course of the West's ascent into opulence.

Maybe the the people TS is refering to see the persona Putin has projected through a romancitized lens, and are nostolgic about some mythic "good 'ol day" before the very idea of masculinity was consdidered "toxic".

Why is it that being "Masculine" is a positive thing?

You can be a macho-man or you can walk around with a pink tutu for all I care - it doesn't define your contribution or importance to society.

"good ol day?" What, of the Soviet Union? Seriously?

 

[Gregolian]

Why is it that being "Masculine" is a positive thing?

What about it is "toxic" as the painted hair nuts like to say it is?

 

[method115]

Let's see if anyone in the administration pays for their associations. It's surprisingly possible nobody will. And the attempt to undermine the investigation, and support of this among republicans who've lost their goddamned minds, is strong- as well as among Trump's supporters.

Pardon the cynicism.

When it comes to politicians paying for their crimes I have little faith in anything being done.

 

[Eloquent Dredge]

What about it is "toxic" as the painted hair nuts like to say it is?

It's not.

What they're trying to get at, and I agree they argue this point very poorly and rather militantly, is that culture over the past century or so has portrayed men into something that has to be X,Y,Z or in this case, masculinity.

They're trying to say that it's okay to be anything you want to be and there's nothing wrong with that.

I agree with the underlying point albeit also acknowledging most of the people who make this argument can't do so constructively without slandering masculinity.

 

[milliniar]

Russian troll bots!

 

[salamander]

Why is it that being "Masculine" is a positive thing?

If you have to ask...