Why is Poirier the favorite at the bookmakers?

This will be a stand up fight for the most part and I'll be shocked if Poirier loses that. He's lethal with his striking and Chandler gets hit and hurt very often.
 
Chandler will resort to his wrestling after getting tagged in round 1, have some success with it, and subsequently get TKO'd in round 2 when Dustin finds his chin again.

Dustin does get taken down but he usually finds his way back up.
 
RockyLockridge said:
but that's MY point, porier isn't leauge ahead of him or anything like that.
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Styles make fights.

As noted, Chandler has more power than Poirier, which means he'll put away certain opponents faster and more impressively (the chinny types). It doesn't mean he's better overall.

Dustin went life and death with hooker, Chandler decapicated his washed up bums.

against similar competition, Chandler has looked better IMO. I thought chandler was closer to beating charles than dustin ever got as well.
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How did Dustin do against Gaethje?

How did Chandler do against Gaethje?

How did Dustin do against Eddie Alvarez in the rematch?

How did Chandler do against Eddie Alvarez in the rematch?

Their common opponents: Oliveira, Hooker, Gaethje, Alvarez

Dustin's record against them: 3-1

Chandler's record against them: 2-3

Dustin is clearly the better fighter between the two.

Between the 2 of them, only 1 has proven to have the ability to beat top 5 opponents in the UFC. And consistently at that.

Poirier's record and legacy blows Chandler out of the water.

He's way more likeable too, he just doesn't market as well.

One thing that really annoyed me about Chandler is he had the audacity to continuously question Oliveira's heart for his losses when Chandler literally waved a white flag after getting rocked (yes, he lost vision- but he has no idea what was going on with Oliveira in his losses as well. It's crazy that he judged Oliveira when the whole world can call him a quitter too. Khabib won't even consider him a man because he quits in fights).
 
Your mistake is thinking the book makers base the +/- on any of the things you mentioned,
 
Corrado Soprano said:
Chandler is a human punching bag. He literally leaves himself open for strikes and invites punches/kicks to the head. The man acts like CTE doesn't exist. Porier may be a dis-interesting personality with a boring style, but he still has power.
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Poirier, boring style?
 
I'm thinking Chandler probably could take down Poirier without much issue if he chooses to and possiby get a sub, but I'm thinking Chandler is going to try and stand and trade as he did against Gaethje even though it's the path of most resistance. If he does this, I favor Poirier.
 
Because Dustin’s power is severely underrated on Sherdog. He doesn’t ‘load up’ it’s very effortless power than he can retain in championship rounds. Although he ‘gets hit’ and ‘gets hurt’; he has excellent heart and if Chandler doesn’t finish him early, I can’t see him going 5 rounds without getting KO’d.

I think the Poirier vs Hooker bout gives Sherdoggers a misconstrued impression. Hooker was only stopped by strikes once (body kick, Barboza) and his chin hasn’t been the same since surviving 5 rounds with Poirier. The way Conor, Max, and Charles reacted to big shots is the accurate representation of how hard he hits.
 
I think the uglier the fight gets, the more it favours dustin, who excels in wars. Dustin has better conditioning and defense, better striking and has good killer instinct. Chandler has better power and is more explosive. this is such a good fight.
 
Safton said:
That being said... Dustin has vastly superior boxing fundamentals, fast hands, hits more than hard enough to hurt Mike's iffy chin, and actually retains his power down the stretch of a fight. His resume is superior... though admittedly not by the absurdly massive margin that some are making it out to be. Chandler is 1-1 with Alvarez and finished him in their first meeting before dropping a controversial Split in their rematch. Conversely, Dustin actually faced some legitimate adversity (to varying degrees) in both Alvarez fights and benefited extensively from Eddie being an idiot and committing blatant fouls when he had dominant grappling positions over him. Still, credit to him for making it through those fights and finding his spots.
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Dustin is slow, to average, in hand speed but he’s a combination puncher with good fundamentals. His timing, volume, and power makes up for a lack of speed. Barboza at LW was a good ‘measuring stick’ for overall speed in striking. Barboza vs Pettis was a good overall LW match to serve as a measuring stick for fast punches & kicks. At his best Poirier would’ve presented big problems because he throws combos (too many times faster guys rely on just one check hook or a 3-2 counter). Poirier’s counters tend to be at least a 3-2 or 2-3, when he smells blood only Alvarez can match him in always using volume to get the finish. His match against Gaethje is textbook on not pot-shotting and countering with 2 or 3 punch combinations. That’s what allows him to be a slow starter, with speed no better than average; but he still won that first against a much faster Olivera.

Chandler will be faster in the first, but unless he gets an early stoppage, Dustin’s power and combination striking will eventually catch him. Dustin 3rd or 4th round KO or TKO.
 
Wider striking arsenal, better stamina control, and better Fight IQ. Chandler is still a live dog because of his physicality, explosive striking, and great wrestling. But where he's chinny at times I do feel Poirier is likely to find a good counter that just takes the legs out from under chandler. Chandler could have a fair chance at wrestling to a decision if he chose to fight that way. But he never does. It's usually straight on the gas right out of the gate. So to me Poirier being the favorite seems correct.
 
CedricBee said:
Dustin is slow, to average, in hand speed but he’s a combination puncher with good fundamentals. His timing, volume, and power makes up for a lack of speed. Barboza at LW was a good ‘measuring stick’ for overall speed in striking. Barboza vs Pettis was a good overall LW match to serve as a measuring stick for fast punches & kicks. At his best Poirier would’ve presented big problems because he throws combos (too many times faster guys rely on just one check hook or a 3-2 counter). Poirier’s counters tend to be at least a 3-2 or 2-3, when he smells blood only Alvarez can match him in always using volume to get the finish. His match against Gaethje is textbook on not pot-shotting and countering with 2 or 3 punch combinations. That’s what allows him to be a slow starter, with speed no better than average; but he still won that first against a much faster Olivera.

Chandler will be faster in the first, but unless he gets an early stoppage, Dustin’s power and combination striking will eventually catch him. Dustin 3rd or 4th round KO or TKO.
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Eh, Dustin isn't blindingly fast in hand speed (especially in comparison to guys like Michael Johnson in his prime) but I would never go so far as to call him "slow" -- and would consider him above a few other guys, even some strikers. I'm not really sure where Pettis and Barboza come into this.

But yes, I do generally agree that Poirier's combination-punching will be a critical part of any victory (as it's something you just don't see to the same extent from Chandler, who tends to load up) and the fact that he just doesn't let guys off the hook at any point whatsoever. Chandler will probably be faster in terms of sheer fast-twitch explosive punch speed in the first 1.5 rounds, but I wouldn't be overly surprised if Poirier ends up being or at least seeming faster in a purely practical sense due to his straight shots in comparison to Mike's tendency to, again, load up a bit and throw things a bit too loopy for his own good at times.

Dustin by TKO in the second half is also my pick, but 4th round would indeed by quite a feat given that the fight is only scheduled for three... :p
 
meh. chandler hasn't done much. i actually think chandler takes this, but on paper poirier has the better resume.
 
Chandler's only chance is to somehow KO Dustin. His wrestling may be superior, but it's not elite enough to keep Dustin down. Dustin by TKO, possibly in a war, but most likely picking him apart with leg kicks and opportunistic punches.
 
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