Why Is Anderson Silva's Power So Underrated Here?

[k1ngjester]

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Ok I really lost my sense here and I apologize.

I do want to say that Mayweather's main issue is his hands as he has been injury prone since his amatuer days, according to Mayweather Sr. If you check out his earlier career he had much more KOs and even dropped Corrales 5x before his corner threw in the towel. Just wanted to clear that one up for myself if anything.

And yes, Anderson has power. Can he hurt his opponents more with a hook rather than his straight, probably not. Due to his reach, his hooks take too much of a wind up, while his straight or stiff jab works better with his style. Unless of course, if he has that Lennox Lewis kind of power.

And to the other poster, I'd choose Hendo or Vitor. Both would send me to the hospital, but Manhoef probably kills me and Silva probably humiliates me worse than Griffin meanwhile me being sent to the hospital.

 

[JKS]

The mt match was great, never seen that

 

[R.I.O.T]

Because. Krees Waydmun new shampeeon. Yes? Is normal.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Silva doesn't have raw power like a Carwin. What he has is elite technique, elite timing and very good power, all which can result in a KTFO of the other guy, regardless of how good his chin is.

 

[TigerUpperKut]

Because he doesn't have a lot of KOs like this

that clean ko came after nate was already dropped and hurt from what I remember

 

[mmafan559]

100% Sherdog thread.

 

[Sherm]

Michael Jai White was talking about how Anderson finishes his punches better than other fighters, by putting some extra bite on the end of them. He was talking about some ki-YA type mystical shit.

I think a lot of people base their conception of power based off of someone's build. They don't do that as much in boxing. The guys who get talked about as punchers can be slighter guys like Golovkin and Matthyse.

 

[JaPo]

I actually think, Power of Pain, compared to those in this thread who have given credit to Anderson's power you have not given enough credit to his technical advantage over nearly all other fighters in MMA. Who else in MMA knocks people out in anything like the same fashion as Anderson does? Very few people fight with the savvy and set up such destructive counters as he does. His tendon strength is I think his greatest advantage physically as is shown by the stiffness of his straight punches and the punishing tightness of his clinch. I think where we differ is I put his KOs more down to his timing and accuracy and general ringcraft (technique) than I do his power, though of course they both play a part. It's confusing that you emphasise so strongly his power when we can all see he is technically on another level to most of his opponents and to his fellow KO artists. There is a reason we don't have these sorts of discussions about other people. That is the biggest difference for me.

I don't think you have to be muscular to be a hard puncher, either. There are so many examples to the contrary, particularly in boxing (e.g. possibly the two most inexplicably hard-punching skinny men to have fought in the same division, McLellan and Jackson), it would be ridiculous to suggest this.

 

[Anti Theist**]

Why are thread-starters so presumptuous around here?

 

[Power of Pain**]

Wow shit went south in here real quick.

P4P andy isn't top 5 power puncher. He doesn't have raw power just excellent technique, speed, accuracy and athleticism. And of course the ability to make his opponents come at him square on, probably from his taunts and dropping his hands low. Combine all of them and you get clean one strike knockouts.

So basically you just said that Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins have lots of KOs.

Again you need raw power to get KOs along with technique, speed and accuracy.

 

[Power of Pain**]

I actually think, Power of Pain, compared to those in this thread who have given credit to Anderson's power you have not given enough credit to his technical advantage over nearly all other fighters in MMA. Who else in MMA knocks people out in anything like the same fashion as Anderson does? Very few people fight with the savvy and set up such destructive counters as he does. His tendon strength is I think his greatest advantage physically as is shown by the stiffness of his straight punches and the punishing tightness of his clinch. I think where we differ is I put his KOs more down to his timing and accuracy and general ringcraft (technique) than I do his power, though of course they both play a part. It's confusing that you emphasise so strongly his power when we can all see he is technically on another level to most of his opponents and to his fellow KO artists. There is a reason we don't have these sorts of discussions about other people. That is the biggest difference for me.

I don't think you have to be muscular to be a hard puncher, either. There are so many examples to the contrary, particularly in boxing (e.g. possibly the two most inexplicably hard-punching skinny men to have fought in the same division, McLellan and Jackson), it would be ridiculous to suggest this.

My issue is one saying he does not have as much power as others with big KO ratio when he has shown to have power even on the ground or while holding a man's leg where accuracy and timing did not play a huge role.

Accuracy and timing compliments his power greatly. But he still have raw power in regards to being able to hurt an opponent with a punch from any position.

 

[OtavioMMA]

maybe he never fought good opponents, and now with weidman we finally see what real fighter is

 

[PowermmA]

So basically you just said that Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins have lots of KOs.

Again you need raw power to get KOs along with technique, speed and accuracy.

This isnt boxing it is mma. Stop comparing the two, there is too much difference in glove size dumb shit. And since when does mayweather throw straights to knock his opponents out? Never. He is an unaggressive point fighter, with the same attributes as anderson silva except silva goes for the ko. As I said earlier, silva has decent power there is no denying that.

Oh yeah one more thing. STOP COMPARING BOXING TO MMA

 

[Bargey]

The thing about Anderson's power is that it's hard to think of a fight in which he hasn't hurt a guy when he's landed clean. Maybe Cote that's it. And perhaps Lee Murray pre-UFC.

A guy like Forrest was able to take hard punches from Rampage but look what happened when he fought AS.

 

[RondaTateCarano**]

Seriously, why do people keep saying he KO'd Forrest? He was never unconscious..

 

[Steve08]

A guy like Forrest was able to take hard punches from Rampage but look what happened when he fought AS.

Getting slugged in the face by a 205lb monster like Page isn't the same as getting driven into hooks/walked onto counterpunches because if you eat Rampage's punch, then it's just that force being absorbed. When you walk onto a punch, not only do you absorb the force of that punch but your forward/lateral momentum also adds to the force of it due to basic physics. So, like, for example, the first knockdown came when Silva actually manipulated Forrest into circling left... into his waiting right hook which Griffin probably never even saw. The I think last one came when Forrest was literally just charging into Silva's jab.

Silva probably weighs close to 200lbs in the cage so I'm sure he doesn't exactly hit softly, but I don't know where people get off on acting as if he hits like Rampage when he doesn't; he's just infinitely better at creating collisions, which is when two forces meet one another and then multiply exponentially (picture two cars ramming into one another at opposite directions at 45mph [what Silva/Machida create when they score knockdowns] vs. one car smashing into a parked car at 65mph [what Rampage does]).

 

[Power of Pain**]

This isnt boxing it is mma. Stop comparing the two, there is too much difference in glove size dumb shit. And since when does mayweather throw straights to knock his opponents out? Never. He is an unaggressive point fighter, with the same attributes as anderson silva except silva goes for the ko. As I said earlier, silva has decent power there is no denying that.

Oh yeah one more thing. STOP COMPARING BOXING TO MMA

I am not comparing Boxing to MMA. Stop being an elitist feeble minded moron.

You are missing the point which obviously requires some form of intelligence.

If you were not so low in IQ, you would see the simplicity of me bringing up Mayweather, which is that he is the most technical accurate puncher in the world BUT DOES NOT PRODUCE KOS LIKE OTHER BOXERS WHO ARE NOT AS TECHNICAL OR ACCURATE AS HIM. WHICH MEANS THAT YOU NEED RAW POWER AS WELL AS TECHNIQUE AND ACCURACY TO SCORE KOS. Comparing Boxing to MMA gloves have nothing to do with this.

You get it yet moron? And the glove size thing is something only simple minded morons make a misconception of. Dude, four ounces is not that big a difference except that less damage is produce to the face. That is different from jerking the head back with the blunt force of the punch. If anything, the blunt force caused by Boxing gloves is more so in mass than with MMA gloves because of the extra added four ounces.

You do know that knock outs come from the brain crashing with the inner part of the skull right?

But again, that has nothing to do with this. Mayweather not producing KOs like other less technical fighters is a prime example that while Silva does have great technique and accuracy, he also has raw punching power. Are you saying Mayweather purposely throws weaker punches than what he potentially could if he wanted to?

 

[Roop Holstry]

It's his timing brah, his timing.

And his precise precision

 

[Power of Pain**]

It's his timing brah, his timing.

And his precise precision

And his power brother man.

 

[JaPo]

My issue is one saying he does not have as much power as others with big KO ratio when he has shown to have power even on the ground or while holding a man's leg where accuracy and timing did not play a huge role.

Accuracy and timing compliments his power greatly. But he still have raw power in regards to being able to hurt an opponent with a punch from any position.

I honestly don't think he necessarily does hit as hard as those guys. The way you've put your point across almost suggests you think Anderson is the hardest hitter in MMA. For the sake of argument, who do you concede hits harder than Anderson?

And you really need to quit calling people dumb, stupid, low IQ etc. The way you write and the manner in which you argue your point does not portray you as remotely well-educated or articulate. Your reasoning appears to be pretty piss-poor.