Why Is Anderson Silva's Power So Underrated Here?

[Power of Pain**]

Because his opponents don't see the strikes coming? You don't need to hit extremely hard when you can be as efficient as Anderson is.

Neither can Mayweather or Hopkin's opponents. But they have less KOs then others not as technical.

You need natural punching power for that to work.

 

[JayElectra]

I have a question. What did you think of Felix Trinidad? He had tremendous punching power. The man can knock anyone out from any angle.

Yet he was tall and lanky. 5'11 fighting as a welterweight (147) and then middleweight (160). Yet he hit viciously. Along with having 35 KO wins out of 42.

Another man that shows that it's not just about how big one looks.

MMA fans here coming from the post Lesnar era who knows shit about Boxing thinks one has to look like he's on steroids to hit hard naturally. This is beyond ridiculous. So when they see a tall and lanky Silva destroying dudes with punches, they think it's simply just because of accuracy and timing.

Trinidad was a great puncher, obviously. Nowhere is that more evident than in his fight with William Joppy (in the MW tourney before he fought Hopkins). Joppy was always considered a durable MW, and, according to most everyone, he was the second best MW behind Bernard. Tito just annihilated him, and it was a task that wasn't really ever duplicated until he was a shot fighter (Bernard beat him down badly, but he didn't knock him down or out, like Trinidad easily did). As an all around boxer, Tito wasn't infallible, though. Oscar deserved to beat him (despite his running late) and Bernard systematically destroyed him (though, that isn't necessarily something to be ashamed of).

As for your point regarding punchers coming in all shapes and sizes, you're right. I'd argue that almost the majority of the great punchers were fairly tall, and generally thin compared to their opposition. The likes of Hearns, Robinson, Saddler, Corrales, McClellan, Jackson to a certain extent, Foster and Arguello were all massive punchers with tall, skinny frames (relative to their weight class). Of course, there are also the likes of Tyson, Liston, Shavers, Tiger and many others who were short and stocky, but there are plenty of (as Arguello was similarly nicknamed), "explosive thin men".

 

[k1ngjester]

LOL This is the most dumbest assesment I read on here in a way to discredit his power.

Only Sherdoggers came up with this nonsense.

Mayweather is the most accurate and well timed puncher in the world and he does not get as many knock outs because he lacks power. Hopkins is another one and he is of a higher weight class.

Silva has great power. No one can give me a reason why he is not P4P one of the hardest hitters.

I like to see detailed reasons on here on why he does not have as much power. Until then, his performances speaks for itself.

Only on Sherdog folks.

Mayweather has had hand issues and uses boxing gloves, which has more cushion than MMA gloves. Better comparison MMA wise would be Muhammad Ali. I might get flak for it, but that is style Silva emulates in MMA. Silva uses his precision, his movement, and his creativity to bring down his opponents. Much like Ali.

Also, Silva's base is also Muay Thai. So he uses his knees, elbows, and kicks as well so its not all in his punches when the KO's come. His most devastating KO was from an elbow which left his opponent in a terrible state like if he was having a seizure.

Silva's power is high grade, but its no Manhoef-like power.

 

[welcometohavoc]

Meh, bottom line, other people may hit harder on a PSI tester, but Anderson's hits leave people unconscious

 

[Power of Pain**]

I actually agreed with your post completely

Of course Silva is a great striker with power But part of his power comes from where he hits someone and when he hit someone. He is a counter puncher so he uses their momentum against them to make the strike land twice as hard.

You just describe Floyd Mayweather, who is the best at this in the world. But he does not have as much KOs as other boxers who are not as technical.

But as you said in the first sentence, Silva has power. Without it he would not have as many KO/TKO wins.

 

[skombolis]

You just describe Floyd Mayweather, who is the best at this in the world. But he does not have as much KOs as other boxers who are not as technical.

But as you said in the first sentence, Silva has power. Without it he would not have as many KO/TKO wins.

I agree. Technique and timing alone may out-point someone but it isn't putting them to sleep. Silva is a deadly combination of power and technique when it comes to striking

 

[Power of Pain**]

Mayweather has had hand issues and uses boxing gloves, which has more cushion than MMA gloves.

The Boxing glove stuff is getting annoying. Then explain other boxers in Mayweather's weight class who has many more KOs but are not as accurate. Boxing gloves have nothing to do with anything, especially when you consider it is only four more ounces and the power of a punch is harder because the extra padding protects the hands more and the extra four ounces adds to the weight of impact when jerking the head back. Even then, it is irrelevant because of other Boxers who has more KOs with less technique.

Better comparison MMA wise would be Muhammad Ali. I might get flak for it, but that is style Silva emulates in MMA. Silva uses his precision, his movement, and his creativity to bring down his opponents. Much like Ali.

I agree with this. Ali was his idol. Silva may not pull it off in a Pro Boxing match (he got stunned by a punch by a nobody in Boxing while doing the shuffle). But in MMA he looks amazing.

Also, Silva's base is also Muay Thai. So he uses his knees, elbows, and kicks as well so its not all in his punches when the KO's come. His most devastating KO was from an elbow which left his opponent in a terrible state like if he was having a seizure.

Silva's power is high grade, but its no Manhoef-like power.

The mechanism of the elbow is not that far of from that of a punch. You need to power regardless to knock someone out with any strike. If you lack power in a power, you will lack power in a spinning elbow.

 

[west42]

Jesus christ, 17 pages and you're STILL at it?!? Ok, silva hits at least three times harder than End of Cycle Carwin. This is getting scary, like you're going to show up at a live event and take someone hostage until the MMA world agrees with you.

 

[ocfightfan]

Yet another thread where someone asserts a strawman argument that nobody is making, and claims that it is common.

Whats with all these people around here claiming that Cain has bad cardio?

Why do all you people claim that Mark Hunt has a glass chin?

How come there are so many people around here saying that Mighty Mouse is the slowest and least skilled fighter in the UFC?

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Lol @ at all the neckbeards saying he has no power. If any of you know-nothings took one of his punches to the head at 70% of their power, your dicks would go hide inside your bodies.

 

[gillygilly**]

How am I'm getting upset?

lol, well there's this....

Just annoyed at geeks like you who knows jack shit about Boxing while regurgitating nonsense that other haters make up.

 

[ferrisjso]

IMO AS is very overrated. One thing that's not though is his power which besides Machida isn't equaled at MW.

 

[Cooliox]

Another ignorant post based of lack of intelligence. Let's apply logic here. Silva dropped Griffin and Okami with jabs. Now think for a sec what would had happen had he thrown a overhand right ala Hendo Bomb or Liddell.

Think it slowly little buddy.

Now...As for Chris Leban. He had a granite chin who was cracked for the first time by Silva. That is impressive enough. Talking about he was not knock out cold is pushing it.

Irvin was dropped from a punch to the cheek while Silva was holding his leg, meaning Silva did not apply full hip motion into his punch due to one arm being occupied in holding the leg. Yet the punch split Irvin's face open.

And how many times do we really see dudes get KO cold? Not even Mike Tyson did not get all his opponents to be KO cold all the time, and he had five times as many fights as Silva.

Silva still got a cold KO with a spinning elbow, which while not a punch, still requires for one to have KO power to get the KO from it.

You make full sense dude. But you're not going to be heard by many.

Don't forget, this is MMA where at the infant stage of the sport 'visuals' are still easier to understand than technique.

That's why mma fans love wild exchanges and wild sluggers.

Anyways, throwing wild and wide punches are a no-no in boxing, as you probably know. Guys like Anderson, Machida, and GSP- prime examples of people that will never throw that way. They just have too much technique.

Anderson doesn't throw wide angle punches. He throws them crisp and clean. He doesn't to windup his punches like Hendricks does, he can generate enough force even at a stationary position like he did against Irvin... or moving back like he did against Forrest.

But people are not going to hear it. They don't see how these guys generate force by being precise in technique. On sports science, GSP's punch measured in at 2860lbs of force. Cain's punch was 2200something, and Rampage not even 2000.

The thing is GSP doesn't punch like that in fights though. His straight right does enough damage and he can throw 5 rounds worth of those.

But people were like "oh that's busted. Impossible that GSP punches that hard. rigged..." etc.

It's because they don't understand how force is generated. They want to see those wild haymakers because it's easy to spot that to be a hard punch.

But the way top-technique guys throw, it's harder to tell since there's no wind-up, and proper body control to put forward maximum momentum into a punch.

Yes, GSP punches harder than Cain, based on sports science. I bet Anderson Silva would get similar results to GSP at the least, probably higher.

 

[Jermei]

Silva's power come from his perfect technique for punching. When you know how to punch like guys like Machida and Silva it can be lethal. I'll post the gifs of Silva executing his opponent with proper punching technique on December 29th.

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

Ok... Let's break it down simply:

You're standing there with your hand tied behind your back and have to eat a punch from one mw... Your choices are:

Anderson
Vitor
Manhoef
Hendo

Who would you least like to eat a punch from?

 

[JayElectra]

Ok... Let's break it down simply:

You're standing there with your hand tied behind your back and have to eat a punch from one mw... Your choices are:

Anderson
Vitor
Manhoef
Hendo

Who would you least like to eat a punch from?

It doesn't matter.

 

[JayElectra]

Silva's power come from his perfect technique for punching. When you know how to punch like guys like Machida and Silva it can be lethal. I'll post the gifs of Silva executing his opponent with proper punching technique on December 29th.

Silva's ability to stop fighters comes from a marriage of sound technique and a God-given power.

 

[Power of Pain**]

lol, well there's this....

That's not me getting upset. That's me shaking my head in seeing how many wannabe experts on here know nothing about Boxing and think for one to have KO power they have to be muscular.

 

[Power of Pain**]

Ok... Let's break it down simply:

You're standing there with your hand tied behind your back and have to eat a punch from one mw... Your choices are:

Anderson
Vitor
Manhoef
Hendo

Who would you least like to eat a punch from?

You forgot to add in the question of what type of punch they would each throw.

 

[k1ngjester]

The Boxing glove stuff is getting annoying. Then explain other boxers in Mayweather's weight class who has many more KOs but are not as accurate. Boxing gloves have nothing to do with anything, especially when you consider it is only four more ounces and the power of a punch is harder because the extra padding protects the hands more and the extra four ounces adds to the weight of impact when jerking the head back. Even then, it is irrelevant because of other Boxers who has more KOs with less technique.

Well yeah, mainly because he is more of a technical volume puncher than a power puncher. Lets not ignore that Mayweather is injury prone when it comes to his hands. Making him wary when he throws a hard punch. All I'm saying is that if he had an MMA glove he'd get more KOs than with a boxing glove. Look at Manhoef's KB record and his MMA record. He has 27 wins with 25 KOs in MMA, meanwhile in kickboxing he has a record of 37 wins with 27 KOs.

The mechanism of the elbow is not that far of from that of a punch. You need to power regardless to knock someone out with any strike. If you lack power in a power, you will lack power in a spinning elbow.

That is not true. When someone throws a proper elbow they put much more power than most punches. Look at Jones vs Gustafsson. When Jones threw punches at Gus, he took them like nothing. When he received an elbow, he turned into Bambi for a bit.