Why Is Anderson Silva's Power So Underrated Here?

[JayElectra]

It's a bizarre phenomenon. People say that he just has perfect timing and that he's very accurate, but he isn't that powerful a puncher. It plays in to the legend of Anderson being some arcane and mystical fighter. In actuality, he is very heavy handed in addition to having good timing and accuracy.

 

[JayElectra]

I still don't get how I am trolling.

Only on Sherdog do idiots like ylu undermine the dude's power and credit his KOs all to timing and accuracy.

You don't see that in Boxing.

No one still has not given me a reason as to why Silva has P4P power when the fucking guy has rocked dudes from the ground with a punch.

His knockouts end up looking a lot like Naseem Hamed's, I think. Interestingly enough, you don't ever see boxing fans attribute all of Hamed's knockouts primarily to perfect timing and accuracy (though, of course he had great timing and accuracy). He was born a very, very hard hitter. Same with Silva.

 

[Power of Pain**]

His knockouts end up looking a lot like Naseem Hamed's, I think. Interestingly enough, you don't ever see boxing fans attribute all of Hamed's knockouts primarily to perfect timing and accuracy (though, of course he had great timing and accuracy). He was born a very, very hard hitter. Same with Silva.

Thank you!!!

I seen your posts and you know your stuff about Boxing.

I mean all this accuracy and timing shit is nonsense. His accuracy and timing adds to his power of course, but he is without a doubt heavy handed.

 

[Ln]

His shots don't like they are thrown with such raw power as a guy like Hendo or Lombard. I think he hits hard and is really precise as well. Whenever he has an opponent hurt it's weird that he doesnt jump on them, he kind of takes him time picking his shots to finish them like he knows they are already really hurt.

 

[Rhamnetin]

It's normal

This

 

[Normishagge]

The guy has amazing power. The way he KO'd James Irvin or Forrest Griffin or Okami should make this obvious to anyone

He also KO'd Chris Leben in Lebens prime when Leben was known as the guy who just couldn't be knocked out

 

[Power of Pain**]

It has been proven to be BS? Really by who? I would like a link or some sort of data. I personally have been hit in training numerous times with both boxing gloves (12-16 oz) and MMA gloves and I'll tell you right now the punches with boxing gloves felt like baby taps compared to MMA gloves. No, I don't know what vids you're talking about. The only time I saw Anderson box was on YouTube when he tried to do the shuffle and got clocked for it.

How about by actual fighters who fought both MMA and K-1/Boxing?

You are confusing facial damage/pain caused by MMA gloves as compared to the affect of a knockout due to the head being jerk back when punch or when the chin is hit thus bringing force to the pressure point behind the jawline that causes a KO.

Obviously being hit in the face by less padding will cause more damage and hurt more. But that is another subject.

And what the fuck does this have to do with anything? Seriously stick to the initial argument.

My whole example of Mayweather is to simply point out th being that he is the most accurate puncher in the world, he should score more KOs than Pacquiao or Adriaen Broner or Canelo Alverez. Hell Prince Naseem was not as accurate as Mayweather but he had massive power.

I agree that it's easier to cause more facial damage, but it's also IMO easier to hurt and KO guys without having all that padding.

Not true. Padding does not protect the inside of your skull. Boxing gloves are four to six ounces heavier and with the extra weight causes more force behind the impact of the punch.

but again what does this have to do with the discussion. So many straw reaching here.

Does Anderson have KO power? Of course he does, but does he have KO power compared to guys like I mentioned in my previous post? Definitely not.

Why is it definite? Because you say so? You have no reasoning nor source behind your claim. Haven't you ever though what if Silva was to swing wild like the other dudes?

I honestly don't give a shit about the sport of boxing and don't want to discuss in the MMA section. If you want to make comparisons please use MMA fighters as an example.

Mayweather is the greatest example to use here because the man is the most accurate puncher in the world but does not punch as hard as other boxers. So the gloves shit is irrelevant. You are missing the point.

I bought up Nick Diaz too and with his accuracy he should be a one punch KO machine based of your logic.

 

[JayElectra]

Thank you!!!

I seen your posts and you know your stuff about Boxing.

I mean all this accuracy and timing shit is nonsense. His accuracy and timing adds to his power of course, but he is without a doubt heavy handed.

It has a lot to do with furthering the mythology around Silva. It isn't dissimilar to how some people constantly refer to his basic head movement (I don't mean to disparage when I say basic; sound fundamentals are the basis of greatness, often times) as "matrixing." It is as if people don't want to apply the same strictures and classifications to him as they do to everyone else. It's annoying and unnecessary. His greatness speaks for itself. Mythologizing his abilities takes away from them in some ways, I find.

 

[Power of Pain**]

Jesus. Reading your posts hurt my brain. You really cannot see things in anything other than absolute extremes, and it hurts so much more because you are so dogged in your stupidity.

Anderson has good power. Everyone admits that. But, compared to other well-known knockout artists in MMA, he relies LESS on his power and MORE on his timing, accuracy and creating a COLLISION with his opponent. It is no coincidence that in many of his knockouts his opponent is moving their weight towards him and he counters them.

You are still too stupid to not acknowledge Silva rocking Sonnen from bottom guard, or Hendo on the ground to get a submission on each of them. Or how he knock out Irvin without Irvin moving forward because Silva caught his leg meaning less hip rotation for Silva. Silkva just punch his cheek, split his face open and thatwas that.

I am starting to believe that many people on here are post Brock Lesnar fans who expects for one to be built like a tank to have power.

The most idiotic thing on existing in MMA forums.

Bringing boxing into the equation only distorts this already murky picture. MMA IS NOT THE SAME AS BOXING. In several threads now you have rendered pointless the discussion through your failure to acknowledge this. Floyd fights boxers who are a lot better at avoiding these sorts of collisions than Anderson's opponents. In addition to that, he is more content to fight to a decision.

You are looking to deep into the Mayweather example without getting the point. There are Boxers not as accurate as Mayweather but has more knock outs. If accuracy and timing was the main principle behind Silva getting his knock outs then Mayweather who is the most accurate boxer in the world would be getting more KOs than other boxers with less accuracy.

Are you that stupid to not get it? Forget that it's Boxing.

Hey I can use Nick Diaz as an example who is extremely accurate with his punches but does not have as much one punch KO/TKO as others with less accuracy.

 

[NutzThePsycho]

Muhammad Ali keeps coming to mind

 

[Roxxo]

Silva hits hard there's no doubt about it, but to say he's one of the p4p hardest hitters is just false.

When I think of raw punching power someone like Manhoef or Carwin comes to mind. They could starch somebody with a punch to the forehead.

 

[aRtFuL]

Power would be a correct description, not heavy-hitter though.

This is because power of a strike comes from a combination of strength, technique and speed. Anderson is definitely all technique and speed there (not so much strength). So he does have good power because he's got 2 parts of the equation of power that is extremely good and one part that is ordinary - thus overall would still be very good power.

But not a heavy hitter because his doesn't do heavy hands.

 

[jeremyemilio]

I agree with you TS. I've never understood it myself. But as we can see by the posts, it's not a point worth arguing around here. When it comes to AS, even one punch KO's will always be chalked up to 'precision and accuracy.'

 

[jeremyemilio]

Power would be a correct description, not heavy-hitter though.

This is because power of a strike comes from a combination of strength, technique and speed. Anderson is definitely all technique and speed there (not so much strength). So he does have good power because he's got 2 parts of the equation of power that is extremely good and one part that is ordinary - thus overall would still be very good power.

But not a heavy hitter because his doesn't do heavy hands.

I also don't understand why people think Anderson isn't strong... watch him clinched up with Bonnar against the fence, or throwing Franklin around in the Thai clinch and tell me he isn't strong.

 

[redeyeguy]

He has knockout power, yes. P4P level knockout power? Hell no.

The difference between him and those that hit harder is that he can use his power more effectively than most of them.

 

[dieknowsore]

if anderson silva gets on top of you on the ground the fight ends within 5 strikes.

 

[Toxxus]

He probably gets under-estimated for power by the average person, but he's definitely not a top 5 heavy hitter.

Look at guys like JDS where his power punch against Cain literally threw him to the floor. Not by getting a KO, but raw power. Also, look at Vitor's crazy uppercut against Hendo. It picked the guy off the floor.

Silva hits hard and holds the KO record, but he's not in the same league as guys like JDS, Vitor or even old school Tank Abbot when it comes to raw power.

 

[dieknowsore]

I also don't understand why people think Anderson isn't strong... watch him clinched up with Bonnar against the fence, or throwing Franklin around in the Thai clinch and tell me he isn't strong.

agreed, he prolly has the p4p best clinch strength in mma. he is deceivingly strong.

 

[aRtFuL]

I also don't understand why people think Anderson isn't strong... watch him clinched up with Bonnar against the fence, or throwing Franklin around in the Thai clinch and tell me he isn't strong.

Clinch and thai clinch (especially thai clinch) in general is about technique more than strength.

If you have tight techniques you can out-clinch a stronger guy, because your balance will be superior.

Anderson has good stance.

 

[Wise1]

He didn't KO Griffin. Griffin quit and then ran out crying. Even more impressive imo.

LMFAO! thank you for that.