Why Is Anderson Silva's Power So Underrated Here?

[Cooliox]

Do you honestly not understand what accuracy might mean in this context?

yea, but do you?

Sounds like you play video games. A punch that knocks someone out is 'accurate'. You don't miss the button and KO a professional fighter.

 

[AP_RESURRECTION]

i notice the same thing, people give him credit for his accuracy, but he straight drops people and makes them quit after one strike - i agree he doesnt get enough credit for that, although he is generallyh considered an amazing striker

 

[rooksta]

I never once assumed he didn't hit hard.

 

[Mikeyz]

Silva is without a shadow of a doubt P4P one of the hardest hitters in MMA. The man hurts his opponents with his fist and gets the KO when the punch lands where it needs to land.

What is scary about his power is that he can hurt you on the ground with a punch while allowing him to get submissions in.

Plus here are ten reasons why he is indeed one of the top P4P hardest hitters in MMA.

1) First fighter to crack Leban's chin. Leban immediately did not want any part in exchanging with Silva once he got punch in the face.

2) First man to KO Forrest Griffin with a punch (Jardine got a TKO from landing multiple punches resulting in a ref stoppage).

3) Dropped Griffin and several other fighters with a jab while stepping back.

4) Rocked Sonnen with a punch from bottom guard. Only time I seen anything similar was from a boxer in the early UFC, except Silva followed up with a triangle on Sonnen for the tap out win.

5) Second man to knock James Irvin with a punch which left a massive cut on his cheek. When does one often see that from a punch?

6) Knock a dude out cold with a spinning elbow (not a punch but still now).

7) Hurt Hendo with a punch while on the ground to set up for a submission.

8) Got a KO in a Boxing match with a body shot all while wearing ten ounce gloves.

9) TKO Marquardt with punches while he was on the ground.

10) And of course this:

I don't think anybody is saying he hits the hardest, he is just the most accurate and his timing and speed is absolutely incredible

 

[Power of Pain**]

You're an idiot. It's his accuracy and timing. His power is good, but not manhoef good

Again you shit for brains. Mayweather is the most accurate puncher on the planet with the best timing and incredible speed but he does not show power. Hopkins as well along with when James Toney was he a HW.

Silva rocked Hendo and Sonne on the ground, and from bottom guard against Sonnen with a punch.

He knock out Irvin with a punch to the cheek which slip his face open. How many motherfuckers get punch on the cheek in a MMA fight?

He dropped Griffin and Okami with jabs.

His power is displayed in his Pro Boxing and Muay Thai match with 10 ounce gloves on.

How does he not have P4P power? You have no valid explanation you retard.

 

[bhop1986]

this guy silva is fighting in thailand boxing is a can,hahahhaha.

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

No doubt Anderson hits very hard. But the focus has generally been on his power and accuracy because that aspect of his game is far more impressive then his power.

Watch the gif below and understand that what Mac Danzig did by chance (and why the expression exists 'anyone can get caught'), guys like Anderson do by design.

Anderson loves guys who are naturally aggressive and just come after him (ala James Irvin) but he also gets guys to over commit in their striking and be over aggressive, many times by clowning them so he can set up opportunities like the below gif.

 

[Power of Pain**]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the first reply, it's spot on.

TS' nuthuggin' is off the charts. Sad really.

I am simply applying logic. Repeating that he only hurts his opponents with punches because of his accuracy and speed is the most idiotic thing on here because that is just part of his ability and going by that logic James Toney, Hopkins, and Mayweather should be P4P the most powerful punches in history.

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

yea, but do you?

Sounds like you play video games. A punch that knocks someone out is 'accurate'. You don't miss the button and KO a professional fighter.

I think you are being too simplistic with the topic.

Guys like Manhoef or Hendricks can knock guys out even when off balance or not that accurate. They just have horrific power they generate.

A guy like Mac Danzig above, needs the perfect storm of his best shot, landing in the best place while his opponent is most vulnerable, to get that KO. BJ Penn beat on Joe Daddy far worse and far longer and seemed to land harder shots and yet could not get that KO.

As you say truly skilled fighters and martial artists understand this. They understand that accuracy and timing can be even more valuable then raw power and that even a guy like Mac Danzig can become a KO machine if only he had the skill to get that timing and placement down every time.

Anderson is one of the rare few who can put it together so well in MMA. No insult in acknowledging that.

 

[JaPo]

yea, but do you?

Sounds like you play video games. A punch that knocks someone out is 'accurate'. You don't miss the button and KO a professional fighter.

Anderson tends to hit his opponents right on the button in the place most likely to knock them out. Accuracy is not just a matter of 'hit/didn't hit'. If you actually thought about the physiological factors in knocking someone out you'd realise where you're wrong. ENORMOUS POWER CAN COMPENSATE FOR LESS THAN PERFECT SHOT PLACEMENT. The same brain shutdown that Anderson achieves with a relatively weak shot right on the button can be achieved by another fighter hitting harder but further from the perfect spot.

AAAND, just to clarify, the 'raw power' someone can generate is really no different from technique. Basically, I mean how hard someone can punch. Correct technique obviously allows you to punch harder but regardless of technique, some fighters hit harder than others.

I am simply applying logic. Repeating that he only hurts his opponents with punches because of his accuracy and speed is the most idiotic thing on here because that is just part of his ability and going by that logic James Toney, Hopkins, and Mayweather should be P4P the most powerful punches in history.

You think Anderson has as much raw power as all three of those guys?

You think glove size doesn't make a difference?

You think Anderson's opponents are equal to Toney's, Hopkins' and Mayweather's opponents?

Why would you spend this much time trolling?

 

[Cooliox]

I think you are being too simplistic with the topic.

Guys like Manhoef or Hendricks can knock guys out even when off balance or not that accurate. They just have horrific power they generate.

A guy like Mac Danzig above, needs the perfect storm of his best shot, landing in the best place while his opponent is most vulnerable, to get that KO. BJ Penn beat on Joe Daddy far worse and far longer and seemed to land harder shots and yet could not get that KO.

As you say truly skilled fighters and martial artists understand this. They understand that accuracy and timing can be even more valuable then raw power and that even a guy like Mac Danzig can become a KO machine if only he had the skill to get that timing and placement down every time.

Anderson is one of the rare few who can put it together so well in MMA. No insult in acknowledging that.

tl,dr- Technique > Raw Power. simple.

PS - Wrong forum Theon.

 

[Kanster]

I am simply applying logic. Repeating that he only hurts his opponents with punches because of his accuracy and speed is the most idiotic thing on here because that is just part of his ability and going by that logic James Toney, Hopkins, and Mayweather should be P4P the most powerful punches in history.

Nobody in here is disputing the fact that Anderson has good power, he just doesn't have the KO power of guys like Hendo, Guillard or Manhoef for example. I don't think it's idiotic at all to say he hurts a lot of guys because of his speed and accuracy because it's true. Let's also not forget that MMA gloves are a lot lighter than boxing gloves so naturally it would be a lot easier to KO opponents.

 

[Power of Pain**]

After reading the entire thread I can confidently say TS is 100% trolling.

Well played sir.

I still don't get how I am trolling.

Only on Sherdog do idiots like ylu undermine the dude's power and credit his KOs all to timing and accuracy.

You don't see that in Boxing.

No one still has not given me a reason as to why Silva has P4P power when the fucking guy has rocked dudes from the ground with a punch.

 

[Power of Pain**]

Nobody in here is disputing the fact that Anderson has good power, he just doesn't have the KO power of guys like Hendo, Guillard or Manhoef for example. I don't think it's idiotic at all to say he hurts a lot of guys because of his speed and accuracy because it's true. Let's also not forget that MMA gloves are a lot lighter than boxing gloves so naturally it would be a lot easier to KO opponents.

Another misconception that has been proven to be BS. And did you not see Silva with Boxing gloves hurting those dudes with punches?

It is not easier to KO dudes with MMA gloves. It is only easier to cause more facial damage.

So that is stupid. Boxing gloves are only four to six ounces more heavier and also the KO comes from contact to the chin which impacts the pressure point above the jaw or the head jerking back from a punch causing the brain to hit the side of the inside of the skull.

Plus that made zero sense anyways because Manny Pacqiauo and other Boxers obvious hits way harder than Mayweather.

George Foreman was a beast with his punching power but Ali was way more accurate and fast with great timing. By your logic Ali should had punch harder than Foreman. Who had more KOs in the ring?

 

[MoroccanFan]

LOL This is the most dumbest assesment I read on here in a way to discredit his power.

Only Sherdoggers came up with this nonsense.

Mayweather is the most accurate and well timed puncher in the world and he does not get as many knock outs because he lacks power. Hopkins is another one and he is of a higher weight class.

Silva has great power. No one can give me a reason why he is not P4P one of the hardest hitters.

I like to see detailed reasons on here on why he does not have as much power. Until then, his performances speaks for itself.

Only on Sherdog folks.

Mayweather fights Mexicans, iron chinned people? lol.

 

[Power of Pain**]

Anderson tends to hit his opponents right on the button in the place most likely to knock them out.

He punch Irvin on the cheek and slip his face open. The cheek. How many times do fighters get punch on the cheek in MMA? Many times.

Jusdt crediting accuracy is stupid. He rocked Sonnen and Hendo from the ground. Give me a break.

You think Anderson has as much raw power as all three of those guys?

You think glove size doesn't make a difference?

You think Anderson's opponents are equal to Toney's, Hopkins' and Mayweather's opponents?

Why would you spend this much time trolling?

Wow. That example really went over your head. You obviously lack logic. I used them as examples to show you how having great accuracy, timing and speed does not equal power. What makes you so idiotic is that you failed to see how there are many boxers with less accuracy and timing whop has more KOs than Toney, Mayweather and Hopkins in Boxing. You do know that right moron?

You obviously did not get my example.

The gloves is irrelevant in this discussion because I was making a point of how the most accurate boxers in the world don't get as many KOs in their fights as fighters with less accuracy and timing. That was my point.

Silva has raw power. Judging him based of him being tall and lanky is beyond retarded.

 

[RondaTateCarano**]

He didn't KO Forrest, he dropped him and Forrest verbally tapped.

And what are you taking about? There's not a single thing 'underrated' about Silva around here.

 

[IloveTHIS]

he has top tier power with even better timing

 

[Kanster]

Another misconception that has been proven to be BS. And did you not see Silva with Boxing gloves hurting those dudes with punches?

It is not easier to KO dudes with MMA gloves. It is only easier to cause more facial damage.

So that is stupid. Boxing gloves are only four to six ounces more heavier and also the KO comes from contact to the chin which impacts the pressure point above the jaw or the head jerking back from a punch causing the brain to hit the side of the inside of the skull.

Plus that made zero sense anyways because Manny Pacqiauo and other Boxers obvious hits way harder than Mayweather.

George Foreman was a beast with his punching power but Ali was way more accurate and fast with great timing. By your logic Ali should had punch harder than Foreman. Who had more KOs in the ring?

It has been proven to be BS? Really by who? I would like a link or some sort of data. I personally have been hit in training numerous times with both boxing gloves (12-16 oz) and MMA gloves and I'll tell you right now the punches with boxing gloves felt like baby taps compared to MMA gloves. No, I don't know what vids you're talking about. The only time I saw Anderson box was on YouTube when he tried to do the shuffle and got clocked for it.

I agree that it's easier to cause more facial damage, but it's also IMO easier to hurt and KO guys without having all that padding.

Does Anderson have KO power? Of course he does, but does he have KO power compared to guys like I mentioned in my previous post? Definitely not.

I honestly don't give a shit about the sport of boxing and don't want to discuss in the MMA section. If you want to make comparisons please use MMA fighters as an example.

 

[JaPo]

He punch Irvin on the cheek and slip his face open. The cheek. How many times do fighters get punch on the cheek in MMA? Many times.

Jusdt crediting accuracy is stupid. He rocked Sonnen and Hendo from the ground. Give me a break.





Wow. That example really went over your head. You obviously lack logic. I used them as examples to show you how having great accuracy, timing and speed does not equal power. What makes you so idiotic is that you failed to see how there are many boxers with less accuracy and timing whop has more KOs than Toney, Mayweather and Hopkins in Boxing. You do know that right moron?

You obviously did not get my example.

The gloves is irrelevant in this discussion because I was making a point of how the most accurate boxers in the world don't get as many KOs in their fights as fighters with less accuracy and timing. That was my point.

Silva has raw power. Judging him based of him being tall and lanky is beyond retarded.

Jesus. Reading your posts hurt my brain. You really cannot see things in anything other than absolute extremes, and it hurts so much more because you are so dogged in your stupidity.

Anderson has good power. Everyone admits that. But, compared to other well-known knockout artists in MMA, he relies LESS on his power and MORE on his timing, accuracy and creating a COLLISION with his opponent. It is no coincidence that in many of his knockouts his opponent is moving their weight towards him and he counters them.

Bringing boxing into the equation only distorts this already murky picture. MMA IS NOT THE SAME AS BOXING. In several threads now you have rendered pointless the discussion through your failure to acknowledge this. Floyd fights boxers who are a lot better at avoiding these sorts of collisions than Anderson's opponents. In addition to that, he is more content to fight to a decision.