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Why Is Anderson Silva's Power So Underrated Here?

csroster said:
What a strange thread...

There seems to be a trend of one side saying the other is only looking at accuracy and timing, and the other side saying the first side is only looking at power.

When really, everyone is in agreement that Silva has all three (accuracy, timing, power).
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TS is making an argument against imaginary people, I haven't ever heard someone say that Anderson doesn't have KO power, just simply that he isn't a big power puncher which is true, Anderson's KOs have more to do with creating collisions or hitting the right spot to turn the head more violently.(temple, end of chin)
 
oh for FUCK'S sake, you again? You have absolutely no self-awareness or restraint or are a cracking troll.

Anderson does NOT have extraordinary raw power. He is ALL timing and accuracy. Ask Stephen Thompson, for example, who said he has only average speed and power but otherworldly ring smarts and savvy. Look at his knockouts. He is not a one-punch KO artist who rocks dudes with glancing blows. He is not a weak puncher but if you were to test his hardest shot in a scientific environment he would not be top of the league.

He knocks dudes out while Mayweather doesn't because he is up against striking BUMS compared to Mayweather's opponents. Your whole perspective in regards to everything is completely flawed and so full of misguided assumptions and logical holes it needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from scratch.
 
Human Bass said:
The Franklin punch is part big straight, part overhand. Even Frank Edgar can have knockout power in a punch like that. A jab knockdown is much more impressive than a overhand knockout. Anyone can generate big power in a big swing, the challenge is to generate power while being subtle.
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There are a lot of factors in a KO other than the power generated by the puncher, for example Anderson is right handed so his jabs are stronger than left handed southpaws, then there's Forrest's weak chin, and lastly there is Forrest running into Anderson's fist.

Anderson definitely has KO power but it's nowhere near the biggest power punchers at MW like Manhoef, Vitor and Henderson.
 
Once one lost his last fight, he's bad. That's how Sherdog works.

And you should know that.
 
eiyuu said:
Because he fought crappy competition (MW has magically gotten better now that Weidman is champ)
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I'm just going to throw this out there because I've been hearing this mentioned a lot lately.

Once upon a time, MW was mediocre. Anderson had to fight some fairly mediocre guys, and as a result, people mentioned the fact he wasn't fighting that many tough guys.

Slowly, this changed.

After Maia, he fought Sonnen, Belfort, Okami, and then Sonnen again. That's four incredibly tough title defenses in a row. The complaints regarding his level of competition faded away, barring the guys who will complain about anything.

MW is as strong as it's ever been now, but it's not stronger than what Anderson faced for the last couple of years. It looks like it's going to keep getting better depending on how a couple of the new guys (new to UFC) do, but I don't see a lot (any?) of people saying that the division is a lot tougher now that Weidman is champ.

Unless, of course, you consider the fact Weidman has Anderson has a challenger; having the best fighter in the world challenging for your title will do that.
 
Loiosh said:
I'm just going to throw this out there because I've been hearing this mentioned a lot lately.

Once upon a time, MW was mediocre. Anderson had to fight some fairly mediocre guys, and as a result, people mentioned the fact he wasn't fighting that many tough guys.

Slowly, this changed.

After Maia, he fought Sonnen, Belfort, Okami, and then Sonnen again. That's four incredibly tough title defenses in a row. The complaints regarding his level of competition faded away, barring the guys who will complain about anything.

MW is as strong as it's ever been now, but it's not stronger than what Anderson faced for the last couple of years. It looks like it's going to keep getting better depending on how a couple of the new guys (new to UFC) do, but I don't see a lot (any?) of people saying that the division is a lot tougher now that Weidman is champ.

Unless, of course, you consider the fact Weidman has Anderson has a challenger; having the best fighter in the world challenging for your title will do that.
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I agree with your post except this bit right here, MW has gotten much stronger in the last 2 years but it's not just Weidman. These guys have joined the MW division recently, Rockhold, Jacare, Kennedy, Boetsch, Carmont, Larkin, Machida and Mousasi will be shortly, the MW division has gotten much deeper and most of that happened in the last 2 years.
 
NoBiasJustMMA said:
I agree with your post except this bit right here, MW has gotten much stronger in the last 2 years but it's not just Weidman. These guys have joined the MW division recently, Rockhold, Jacare, Kennedy, Boetsch, Carmont, Larkin, Machida and Mousasi will be shortly, the MW division has gotten much deeper and most of that happened in the last 2 years.
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Like I said, some of these guys have to prove themselves at MW in the UFC.

This is a part of the division getting stronger, and it's been developing for years. Anderson was defending during the development, and he beat Vitor, who could do very well against any of those guys.

I'm just saying the division didn't magically become better the second Weidman won the title, and I don't think a lot of people are saying that it did. I also don't think Anderson dodged the improvement.
 
He hasn't shown devastating knockout power in his punches. Then again, he's so accurate, that raw power isn't needed to put guys down.
 
Loiosh said:
Like I said, some of these guys have to prove themselves at MW in the UFC.

This is a part of the division getting stronger, and it's been developing for years. Anderson was defending during the development, and he beat Vitor, who could do very well against any of those guys.

I'm just saying the division didn't magically become better the second Weidman won the title, and I don't think a lot of people are saying that it did. I also don't think Anderson dodged the improvement.
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I don't think he dodged it because that implies he knew it was coming, he missed it, but I don't think his streak would have been as long if the current crop of MW contenders were in the UFC when he first had the title.
 
anderson is becoming weaker now after losing, and weidman is becoming stronger now.
 
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the first reply, it's spot on.

TS' nuthuggin' is off the charts. Sad really.
 
I think it's his timing and accuracy that helps with his highlight reel more so than his power.
 
Power of Pain said:
Silva is without a shadow of a doubt P4P one of the hardest hitters in MMA. The man hurts his opponents with his fist and gets the KO when the punch lands where it needs to land.

What is scary about his power is that he can hurt you on the ground with a punch while allowing him to get submissions in.

Plus here are ten reasons why he is indeed one of the top P4P hardest hitters in MMA.

1) First fighter to crack Leban's chin. Leban immediately did not want any part in exchanging with Silva once he got punch in the face.

2) First man to KO Forrest Griffin with a punch (Jardine got a TKO from landing multiple punches resulting in a ref stoppage).

3) Dropped Griffin and several other fighters with a jab while stepping back.

4) Rocked Sonnen with a punch from bottom guard. Only time I seen anything similar was from a boxer in the early UFC, except Silva followed up with a triangle on Sonnen for the tap out win.

5) Second man to knock James Irvin with a punch which left a massive cut on his cheek. When does one often see that from a punch?

6) Knock a dude out cold with a spinning elbow (not a punch but still now).

7) Hurt Hendo with a punch while on the ground to set up for a submission.

8) Got a KO in a Boxing match with a body shot all while wearing ten ounce gloves.

9) TKO Marquardt with punches while he was on the ground.

10) And of course this:

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You're an idiot. It's his accuracy and timing. His power is good, but not manhoef good
 
I'm sorry, 'accuracy'? Yea, a punch has to be accurate to land. lol.

He's a beast of a striker. He doesn't throw wild punches like some of these other guys, but he doesn't need to. The whole concept of martial arts is that Technique > Power.

That's why he's knocking people out with punches that don't 'look' hard.

He also knocked Vitor out with a front kick. That's insane. I don't know how many times I've seen that and I've been doing TKD for 20 years.

People don't understand how important technique is. You get to a level of someone like Bruce Lee- nobody would call him a power puncher either, but nobody would survive a a clean punch from him.

That's Anderson. He's truly one of a kind.
 
Cooliox said:
I'm sorry, 'accuracy'? Yea, a punch has to be accurate to land. lol.

He's a beast of a striker. He doesn't throw wild punches like some of these other guys, but he doesn't need to. The whole concept of martial arts is that Technique > Power.

That's why he's knocking people out with punches that don't 'look' hard.

He also knocked Vitor out with a front kick. That's insane. I don't know how many times I've seen that and I've been doing TKD for 20 years.

People don't understand how important technique is. You get to a level of someone like Bruce Lee- nobody would call him a power puncher either, but nobody would survive a a clean punch from him.

That's Anderson. He's truly one of a kind.
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Do you honestly not understand what accuracy might mean in this context?
 
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