Why inexperienced A level athletes (basketball,strongman...) go to BOXING instead of MMA (UFC)??

[Deleted member 405583]

Because bjj is hard and counter intuitive to natural instincts. Let alone adding other martial arts into the learning mix

 

[GolovKing]

you're the only one itt talking about joe rogan, no one ever suggested he was athletic except for you,

you obviously have no idea what you are talking about,

if it's so easy, please post examples of other people marks size throwing it faster,

I can post you an example of a little girl throwing that kick. Does that mean the little girl is more athletic than gsp?

 

[Deleted member 491149]

I can post you an example of a little girl throwing that kick. Does that mean the little girl is more athletic than gsp?

holy shit, do you not understand that the larger people are, the harder it is to move the same way as someone smaller??

have you ever watched sports before?

 

[eddi]

I also used to believe that boxing is worse because more punches to the head in boxing seems like it should give you more brain damage than MMA which has less punches to the head. That was the marketing line when Dana was trying to get the UFC more mainstream. But that's all it is, just marketing to make the sport sound safer. There's no science that supports that at all.

What cuts your arm off more, a kitchen knife (MMA) or a much sharper diamond cutting laser beam (boxing)? Or do they both just cut your arm off the same?

What gives you more CTE: 500 punches, or 200 punches 10 elbows 2 knees and a head kick?

At that point, it's just genetic. You're like Overeem and you can get knocked out 20+ times by guys like Ngannou and be totally OK, or like George Chuvalo who famously use his legendary chin to eat strongest shots from the strongest power punchers in boxing history in large volume until they tired out and sound like a young man @ 90 years old. Or you can be like TJ Grant who spent years out after just 4 KOs and then retired, or Jordan Parsons who was diagnosed with CTE after just 3 KOs.

If you're gonna get brain damage, you're going to get whether you box or do MMA because, this is my belief from watching MMA for a long time, your genetic predisposition matters much more. It doesn't make a difference whether you take 500 punches or 200 punches, because it only takes like 50 punches and the rest is academic.

I've seen too many guys like Wanderlei and Gary Goodridge end up clearly not the same people in retirement to believe otherwise.

stfu boxing gives 200 times more cte, in mma you grapple (no cte) and you can fall back on your weaker areas (kicks checking and grappling) to rest, in boxing if your hands are gone YOUR're FUCKED its over you become a punching bag until you get knocked the fuck out, you can be tough and get full rounds of pure head trauma and there is nothing you can do to avoid it

 

[GolovKing]

holy shit, do you not understand that the larger people are, the harder it is to move the same way as someone smaller??

have you ever watched sports before?

Throwing a wheel kick isn't that hard to learn. Most don't even bother because it's a risky technique that usually doesn't pay off. There's little correlation between being super athletic and being able to throw a wheel kick. Otherwise you'd only see the most explosive guys like Romero, Aldo or Adesanya throwing them. Instead we see all kinds of people throw it, Cain, Lando, JDS when he was already old as fuck

 

[kflo]

The knee and neck/back problems. Sounds like an absolute nightmare to deal with.

One of the worst pains I’ve had was the receiving end of a hard takedown wearing a steel cup........

 

[kflo]

Why are people kidding themselves and acting like nate is a better basketball player than everyone in the NBA when he averaged for 11ppg?

He was a better pure athlete than most in the nba.

 

[ColombianFist]

bigger paycheck and less work to do in training. Nate Robinson got KTFO but probably made more money than the entire mid card of the UFC.

 

[kflo]

Because MMA is way harder then boxing....by no means is boxing easy...especially at high levels but its one discipline to learn...MMA requires many

They both require time to master and facing someone with a lot more hours will put you at a big disadvantage at the start for both. It takes a long time to close that gap when starting from scratch.

I do think someone naturally gifted at boxing can close that gap sooner if starting from 0.....

 

[kflo]

bigger paycheck and less work to do in training. Nate Robinson got KTFO but probably made more money than the entire mid card of the UFC.

They could have sold the same amount promoting that fight as an mma fight. It was sold on the fame of the participants not the combat they competed in. And Tyson was still the main attraction.

 

[ColombianFist]

They could have sold the same amount promoting that fight as an mma fight. It was sold on the fame of the participants not the combat they competed in. And Tyson was still the main attraction.

but it was boxing instead of mma.

 

[kflo]

but it was boxing instead of mma.

Ok....

 

[cade187]

I also used to believe that boxing is worse because more punches to the head in boxing seems like it should give you more brain damage than MMA which has less punches to the head. That was the marketing line when Dana was trying to get the UFC more mainstream. But that's all it is, just marketing to make the sport sound safer. There's no science that supports that at all.

What cuts your arm off more, a kitchen knife (MMA) or a much sharper diamond cutting laser beam (boxing)? Or do they both just cut your arm off the same?

What gives you more CTE: 500 punches, or 200 punches 10 elbows 2 knees and a head kick?

At that point, it's just genetic. You're like Overeem and you can get knocked out 20+ times by guys like Ngannou and be totally OK, or like George Chuvalo who famously use his legendary chin to eat strongest shots from the strongest power punchers in boxing history in large volume until they tired out and sound like a young man @ 90 years old. Or you can be like TJ Grant who spent years out after just 4 KOs and then retired, or Jordan Parsons who was diagnosed with CTE after just 3 KOs.

If you're gonna get brain damage, you're going to get whether you box or do MMA because, this is my belief from watching MMA for a long time, your genetic predisposition matters much more. It doesn't make a difference whether you take 500 punches or 200 punches, because it only takes like 50 punches and the rest is academic.

I've seen too many guys like Wanderlei and Gary Goodridge end up clearly not the same people in retirement to believe otherwise.

Solid bro science, except the studies are real. Oops.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26327287/

https://ejmas.com/jcs/velazquez/Death_Under_the_Spotlight_2011_Final.pdf

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-12/aaon-cbi122019.php

This is just an editorial, but it’s a good summary of the findings:

https://themmaguru.com/boxing-or-mma-more-dangerous/

Please feel free to refute with your opinion though.

 

[BForrester]

When you've spent your entire life becoming world class in a non-combat sport, it's easier to learn one skill (boxing) in a relatively short period of time than having to learn a half-dozen skills in a relatively short period of time.

 

[capnlarge]

I think it's a lot easier to promote a random boxing fight because people consider UFC to be synonymous with MMA. People will not buy a non-UFC MMA PPV and the UFC doesn't make a habit of promoting Youtubers. (Unless you count Kimbo Slice and basically Dana only did that to devalue Kimbo)

 

[cade187]

I think it's a lot easier to promote a random boxing fight because people consider UFC to be synonymous with MMA. People will not buy a non-UFC MMA PPV and the UFC doesn't make a habit of promoting Youtubers. (Unless you count Kimbo Slice and basically Dana only did that to devalue Kimbo)

This post is spot on.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

They both require time to master and facing someone with a lot more hours will put you at a big disadvantage at the start for both. It takes a long time to close that gap when starting from scratch.

I do think someone naturally gifted at boxing can close that gap sooner if starting from 0.....

I agree..im just speaking from a complexity stand point and commitment level

 

[kflo]

I think it's a lot easier to promote a random boxing fight because people consider UFC to be synonymous with MMA. People will not buy a non-UFC MMA PPV and the UFC doesn't make a habit of promoting Youtubers. (Unless you count Kimbo Slice and basically Dana only did that to devalue Kimbo)

If famous people were fighting, I’m not sure you’d see a material difference in sales between boxing or mma. It’s the fame and the spectacle that is the draw, not the specific combat.

Put it this way. Tyson headlining a card for any promotion will draw whether its mma or boxing.

 

[therealdope]

more ways to get made a fool in MMA. In boxing you could at least clinch. In MMA the clinch could get you Rich Franklin'd.

 

[JudoJabs]

This is simple.

Money.