1. The Sherdog Forums are currently experiencing technical difficulties, and we are working on it. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Why Holm beating Ronda is still difficult.

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Ar145984, Aug 23, 2015.

  1. Ar145984

    Ar145984 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    5,492
    Location:
    Attracting your mother to my bedroom.
    If Holm is to beat Ronda, how do you think it would go?

    A knockout while Ronda is walking in? Have we seen Holm do serious damage on her opponents yet in the UFC?

    Or more likely, point fight her way to victory. How did this go in her first fight? She got a split decision.

    The biggest issue of this gameplan, is that it wont solidify her victory, how many casual Ronda fans would accept that Holm wins because she outside point fought? How likely do you think there would be bias in the judges decision?
     
  2. wlu29

    wlu29 Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    19,697
    Likes Received:
    2,193
    outpointing would be more impressive than flash ko
     
  3. mclj1

    mclj1 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    0
    Too many questions there
     
  4. Sigmafight

    Sigmafight Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,906
    Likes Received:
    1,956
    Location:
    Denmark
    There is literally 0% chance of her winning against Ronda

    No point even talking about it, it's another pointless matchup
     
    Lawblaw, TheArgumentPod and focal like this.
  5. lsa

    lsa Maître d' at The Pussy Lounge

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2006
    Messages:
    34,385
    Likes Received:
    51,667
    Location:
    down south, up north
    So if this is a pointless fight, who should Ronda fight at 135?
    Or should she just give up mma since its pointless for her?
     
  6. tsully

    tsully Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,366
    Likes Received:
    377
    If she out points Ronda that would say a lot more about her then a 30sec KO.
    She would have survived 25mins with Ronda without being taken down, tossed and subbed. Which as of now no one has been able to do for more then a round. (Outside of Tate)
     
  7. Adamant

    Adamant GOLD BELT

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    20,291
    Likes Received:
    7,382
    Yeah, but just outpointing her, Ronda would be sour as shit, complaining, excuses, the whole nine yards. But a flash KO..... it'd be the most glorious thing ever seeing Ronda lose her mind and fall into total dispare.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Reach4theSky

    Reach4theSky Playin' a riddim

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    15,676
    Likes Received:
    64,022
    Location:
    10th Island
    A flash ko is the only chance I see for Holm (as unlikely as that is).

    imo As soon as Ronda gets inside and gets a hold of Holm, the fight will be over.
     
  9. BonesNose**

    BonesNose** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2015
    Messages:
    3,083
    Likes Received:
    121
    Location:
    Maximum security jail
    Yep, as somebody who knocks out women regularly I must say it's a glorious spectacle.
     
    TheArgumentPod likes this.
  10. FutureMod

    FutureMod Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2014
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    278
    The stand up fight is interesting. To say Holm doesn't have a chance on the feet is insane.
    Holm has 50 fights with 2 legit losses.

    Holm has 5 months to find god level tdd to make it an interesting fight.
     
  11. Fox by the Sea

    Fox by the Sea Lighthouse keeper Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    31,135
    holm should get jones to teach her those oblique kicks for when ronda comes close.

    i mean it.
     
  12. Canned Tuna

    Canned Tuna Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Messages:
    11,334
    Likes Received:
    7,823
    Location:
    St. Louis
    I honestly think ronda could beat her at least 5/10 times without taking her down. Ronda's striking technique is improving a lot, she has big power for wmma, and the takedown threat is probably enough to throw Holm off her game.

    I don't think ronda would let her stay on the outside and out point her. Holm isn't strong enough to prevent ronda from bullying her into the cage and using some dirty boxing before throwing her on her head.
     
  13. CombatCyborg

    CombatCyborg Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    6,840
    Likes Received:
    590
    Location:
    T.O.
    She has to be able to defend the clinch, and hit Ronda hard enough to hamper her pace. That's the only way she'll keep from getting overwhelmed, if she can't hurt Ronda bad enough to slow her roll it'll only be a matter of time.
     
  14. csroster

    csroster Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    13,410
    Likes Received:
    2,018
    Location:
    Harrisburg, PA
    Holm needs to stay on the outside for at least the first round to get Ronda settled down. It's clear the 'run in with your eyes closed and hope for the best' plan the previous challengers have been using isn't going to cut it.
     
  15. MMAlover123

    MMAlover123 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    London
    This fight is basically another crush job for Ronda , she's a man among the female division.
     
  16. mikenason

    mikenason TOUGH GUY

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    Messages:
    3,850
    Likes Received:
    1,018
    Location:
    Pasadena
    I can see it now.... Holly Holm can just clip Ronda right in her chin and rock the fuck out of her.. make her a little dizzy.. and then just keep knocking her face in... ALA Matt Serra vs. GSP. THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN. Do NOT Count Holly Holm out. Just think about when Matt Serra caught GSP. Of course no one thought GSP would ever lose to a fucking Ultimate Fighter guy right?? This is MMA, and Ronda is not invincible.
     
  17. tombombadil

    tombombadil Guest

    She uses them already.
     
  18. lsa

    lsa Maître d' at The Pussy Lounge

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2006
    Messages:
    34,385
    Likes Received:
    51,667
    Location:
    down south, up north

    Holly has been training with Jacksons MMA and WinkleJohn since she was 16 years old.
    She turned pro mma fighter at the same time Ronda did.
     
  19. That I3astard Cruelty

    That I3astard Cruelty King of Oceania

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2010
    Messages:
    2,716
    Likes Received:
    10,640
    Location:
    Invading your country.
    Judging from the interview, even Holms doesn't think she has much of a chance.
     
  20. Sasquatch Smith

    Sasquatch Smith Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2011
    Messages:
    7,581
    Likes Received:
    877
    Location:
    CT
    Probably the easiest one yet for Ronda on paper if she's willing to clinch and get it to the ground. If she comes in swinging wildly and whiffing like she started out doing in her most recent fight and if Holm has any decent power and can tag her doing that...that would be the only chance at all.

    My guess is another armbar under 45 seconds
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.