Why Gervonta Davis took the knee......

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Tends to happen when people post video proof & somebody just name calls, ignores, dismisses & still claims to be right. Instead of just saying:

"oh wow Roach was throwing punches that might of glanced or landed right as Tank took the knee. That kind of disproves my previous statement & lines up with the rules. "

Or

" even if we ignore the knee he turned and went to his corner for treatment. The rules clearly state that should have also been an infraction "

 

[treelo]

i hope they dont overturn it purely because i think it sets a bad precedent, its nothing like the same as the Garcia fight as he was found with illegal drugs in his system after the fight

i dont want to see results changed after they have been announced in the ring, it just shouldnt happen and you may as well do away with ringside judges and let people know the winner of the fights a few days later when a "panel" have reviewed it

 

[froggyluv]

I dunno that was pretty egregious and blatant - and i was for tank

 

[randomg1t]

i hope they dont overturn it purely because i think it sets a bad precedent, its nothing like the same as the Garcia fight as he was found with illegal drugs in his system after the fight

i dont want to see results changed after they have been announced in the ring, it just shouldnt happen and you may as well do away with ringside judges and let people know the winner of the fights a few days later when a "panel" have reviewed it

i think letting shitty calls like this slide sets a far worse precedent.

no matter how dumb a mistake was made, or how blatantly the rules were broken, once they announce it, it's done. there's actually been a case in recent history when the sum was wrong on a scorecard. i think they corrected the result, but imagine losing a fight because some fucking guy judging it couldn't add numbers correctly.

 

[treelo]

i think letting shitty calls like this slide sets a far worse precedent.

no matter how dumb a mistake was made, or how blatantly the rules were broken, once they announce it, it's done. there's actually been a case in recent history when the sum was wrong on a scorecard. i think they corrected the result, but imagine losing a fight because some fucking guy judging it couldn't add numbers correctly.

it doesn't, it happens in about 1% of fights

there is no need to change the system, it works, it has worked for 130 years, just because a few people online are fucking babies doesnt mean it needs changing

people make mistakes...just deal with it, accept it and move on, if you cant, then go and watch a sport that is automated and see how shit it is(see the Premier League for an example these days)

 

[WklySportsMemes]

it doesn't, it happens in about 1% of fights

there is no need to change the system, it works, it has worked for 130 years, just because a few people online are fucking babies doesnt mean it needs changing

people make mistakes...just deal with it, accept it and move on, if you cant, then go and watch a sport that is automated and see how shit it is(see the Premier League for an example these days)

All those justifications you gave seem like more of a reason to correct it.

It's also not fair to say "a few people online." Thats not the scenario. A majority of the boxing world is commenting or talking about it. With a majority wanting the wrong corrected. Hence it making it up to NYSAC for review & the org retracting their silly statement to support the wrong.

I think the fighter who was wronged opinion matters more than the fans here.

 

[treelo]

All those justifications you gave seem like more of a reason to correct it.

It's also not fair to say "a few people online." Thats not the scenario. A majority of the boxing world is commenting or talking about it. With a majority wanting the wrong corrected. Hence it making it up to NYSAC for review & the org retracting their silly statement to support the wrong.

I think the fighter who was wronged opinion matters more than the fans here.

"the boxing world" is a stretch, who exactly?

the fight happened, the decision was made, as i said, what next, sore the fights a day or two later because someone got pissy about a 60 year old ref doing something that didnt line up with EXACT rules?

shall we go back and let people score all the old fights and change the outcome?

it doesnt matter if it happened a week ago or a decade ago, you cant just change the decision of fights because you didnt like something that happened at the time

lets call Holyfield-Bowe 2 a no contest because of fan man, i dont care if the fight carried on, that should have been stopped at the time

 

[randomg1t]

"the boxing world" is a stretch, who exactly?

the fight happened, the decision was made, as i said, what next, sore the fights a day or two later because someone got pissy about a 60 year old ref doing something that didnt line up with EXACT rules?

shall we go back and let people score all the old fights and change the outcome?

it doesnt matter if it happened a week ago or a decade ago, you cant just change the decision of fights because you didnt like something that happened at the time

lets call Holyfield-Bowe 2 a no contest because of fan man, i dont care if the fight carried on, that should have been stopped at the time

why do we overturn results when we find someone was doping? why do we do it when we find out someone loaded their gloves? would you want the result to stand if the ref read the cards wrong, and they announced the wrong winner despite the fight being scored correctly?

if it happens in 1% of the fights like you claimed, then i don't see how overturning results on idiotic calls like this one would ruin the sport.

you're making it sound as if we're just being petty here, because something happened "that we didn't like". dude broke 3 different rules, each of which should've earned him a lost point, and it didn't because the ref fucked up. it's not debatable, it's irrefutable, on tape, clear as day. but we need to let the wrong result stand because that makes the sport more exciting or some dumb shit?

 

[Neck&Neck]

He took a knee for all the fallen Black lives
It was a noble gesture

 

[treelo]

why do we overturn results when we find someone was doping? why do we do it when we find out someone loaded their gloves? would you want the result to stand if the ref read the cards wrong, and they announced the wrong winner despite the fight being scored correctly?

if it happens in 1% of the fights like you claimed, then i don't see how overturning results on idiotic calls like this one would ruin the sport.

you're making it sound as if we're just being petty here, because something happened "that we didn't like". dude broke 3 different rules, each of which should've earned him a lost point, and it didn't because the ref fucked up. it's not debatable, it's irrefutable, on tape, clear as day. but we need to let the wrong result stand because that makes the sport more exciting or some dumb shit?

so should we go back and reverse the outcome of Benn-Barkley?

that was just one example BTW

fight decisions should not be overturned, the fight happened, and if mistakes were made, oh well, the sport is littered with things like this, why is it only now people are being pissy about it?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

"the boxing world" is a stretch, who exactly?

the fight happened, the decision was made, as i said, what next, sore the fights a day or two later because someone got pissy about a 60 year old ref doing something that didnt line up with EXACT rules?

shall we go back and let people score all the old fights and change the outcome?

it doesnt matter if it happened a week ago or a decade ago, you cant just change the decision of fights because you didnt like something that happened at the time

lets call Holyfield-Bowe 2 a no contest because of fan man, i dont care if the fight carried on, that should have been stopped at the time

Its not a stretch. The fighters...the coaches.. the boxers...the boxing media outlets...the sports media outlets... the fans.... then you can add in a majority of online.

You can change a wrong decision that instant replay could of changed live.

It has nothing to do with changing or scoring old fights again.

Thats the whole point in having instant replay. To avoid the hysterics you are sighting.

The commission will simply say no we aren't reviewing decades old fights lol.

If the imaginary # of 1% you used is true... It would not change history lol.
Why not be fair and right for use case scenarios that are egregious?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

He took a knee for all the fallen Black lives
It was a noble gesture

Just when you think the takes couldn't get any worse....
Womp womp

 

[treelo]

Its not a stretch. The fighters...the coaches.. the boxers...the boxing media outlets...the sports media outlets... the fans.... then you can add in a majority of online.

You can change a wrong decision that instant replay could of changed live.

It has nothing to do with changing or scoring old fights again.

Thats the whole point in having instant replay. To avoid the hysterics you are sighting.

The commission will simply say no we aren't reviewing decades old fights lol.

If the imaginary # of 1% you used is true... It would not change history lol.
Why not be fair and right for use case scenarios that are egregious?

instant replay is, and always will be bullshit

just let the people sat at the side of the ring score the fights and the guy in the ring ref it

if you don't like what they do, oh well, people make mistakes, it human nature and people are trying to take the human out of sports and replace it with automation that also doesn't work

"hysterics"...LOL

i think you need to calm down a bit, i was just saying the fight decision should not be overturned, you seem to have gotten your knickers in a twist over it

 

[WklySportsMemes]

instant replay is, and always will be bullshit

just let the people sat at the side of the ring score the fights and the guy in the ring ref it

if you don't like what they do, oh well, people make mistakes, it human nature and people are trying to take the human out of sports and replace it with automation that also doesn't work

"hysterics"...LOL

i think you need to calm down a bit, i was just saying the fight decision should not be overturned, you seem to have gotten your knickers in a twist over it

I think you need to stop telling people what to do & panicking to false outrage accusations when you get questioned.

Instant replay is bullshit is probably the dumbest thing I read today.

The 2 typical clowns in the thread per ussual. Doubling down on being wrong.

Your argument is literally "I know it's wrong so what oh well."
You can't make this up. On brand for the both of you though.

 

[Randlewand]

Yeah but I thought the towel wipe is almost worse than the knee, I thinks its supposed to be instant DQ but maybe I am wrong as I am new to boxing?

The towel wipe is a DQ as per the rules

 

[wrb]

The towel wipe is a DQ as per the rules

How is he going to deny he did not get his face wiped during the round, lol? Am I missing something, why are people even discussing the knee when the wipe is the bigger foul ?

 

[pugilistico]

In the rematch Tank KOs Roach with multiple headbutts and elbows.
"I was just trying to get the grease off of my eyes and arms!"
Ref: "It looked like you're trying to cheat but you win."
Fans: "That was weird but it was the ref's call so we shouldn't over rule that decision."

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

instant replay is, and always will be bullshit

just let the people sat at the side of the ring score the fights and the guy in the ring ref it

if you don't like what they do, oh well, people make mistakes, it human nature and people are trying to take the human out of sports and replace it with automation that also doesn't work

"hysterics"...LOL

i think you need to calm down a bit, i was just saying the fight decision should not be overturned, you seem to have gotten your knickers in a twist over it

Steve Willis did a piss poor job officiating. He's under investigation as we speak while the fight is being reviewed by the NYSAC for his misconduct. Whether they choose to change anything remains to be seen. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. If the knockdown cancelation stands then the official result will stand. If it doesn't then the official result will change. The decision itself isn't what they're directly looking to overturn. With Garcia vs Haney the decision itself was directly overturned due to Garcia's failed drug tests.

 

[StopDucking]

so should we go back and reverse the outcome of Benn-Barkley?

that was just one example BTW

fight decisions should not be overturned, the fight happened, and if mistakes were made, oh well, the sport is littered with things like this, why is it only now people are being pissy about it?

I'm confused as to what your stance is because @randomg1t asked you many specific questions and you answered none of them. Are you saying fight results should NEVER be changed, even if a fighter was doping or using weapons?

What if the referee does a Steve Harvey and calls the name of the winner wrong? What if a fighter walks to his corner, grabs a gun, shoots his opponent and the ref rules it a win by KO for the shooter? Should the commission not intervene?

A distinction has to be made between fights were people might disagree on what happened (Benn vs Barkley is an example) and fights where what happened is objectively and unanimously established and the ref just blatantly disregarded the rules.

Nobody can argue that Tank did not take a knee, walk to his corner and receive assistance from his cornermen. Those are facts, not interpretations of facts.

If Tank can get away with it, it means any fighter can now take a knee, walk to his corner and receive assistance from his cornermen without repercussions as long as he's the A side.

That's not okay. We cannot allow popular fighters to take a knee, walk to their corner and receive assistance from their cornermen any time they want. It would ruin boxing.