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Why Gervonta Davis took the knee......

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From the footage I watched, it looked like he took a clean straight right to the body from Roach, and there was a second there where he was frozen before the pain or difficulty breathing really hit him.
Delayed affect.
Its common in fighting, experienced it myself and seen it happen many many times with body shots, that processing time to feel the affect, and see if you can pokerface it and either move away or tie up to recover.

I think he was just looking for some extra time to recover in peace rather than get on his bike, and unable to tie Roach up from where he was.
 
It wasn't a delayed reaction due to a body shot it had to do with his eye. He was blinking like it was irritated just before he took a knee. Even tried to wipe it with his own glove. Regardless of what happened the reason doesn't even matter. Tank voluntarily took a knee and the ref initially started to count. According to the NYSAC's rules it's a knockdown. Tank taking a knee was voluntary, there was no foul involved, and legal punches are what led to it (delayed reaction or not).
 
Legendary said:
Because he was hurt and it was absolute bullshit they didn't take a point.
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The ref should've maintained the knockdown ruling and also deducted a point from Tank for receiving outside assistance from his corner in the middle of the fight. Technically, it's grounds for disqualification but realistically that was never an option.
 
Let's say it's not a knockdown, and the ref ruled it a slip, which is the only circumstance I can think of where a fighter goes down and ref doesn't rule it a knockdown, other than via cheating i.e. nut shot or something. In what circumstances is a fighter allowed to just walk to his corner in the middle of the round like that? That alone should've been a point deduction.

If it wasn't a knockdown and Davis can just walk away, Roach should've been allowed to keep on punching. If not that would obviously open Roach to getting penalized, so Davis should've had a point deducted.

It's an absolute bullshit call by the ref, who normally has done a great job in most fights.
 
StopDucking said:
It’s not even up for debate if you take the time to watch the slow mo.
1. Tank’s braid went into his eye when he turned his head. Roach’s punch didn’t even connect.
2. It should 100% be counted as a knockdown because a fighter can’t just take a timeout whenever he wants.

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You can see his braid clearly hit his eye. Never noticed it until this breakdown's slow motion replay. There may've been hair product involved after all or it could just be that the hard braid itself was enough to irritate his eye. Yes, it was undoubtedly a knockdown. The rules about that are clear.
 
Kovalev's Man Bag said:
You can see his braid clearly hit his eye. Never noticed it until this breakdown's slow motion replay. There may've been hair product involved after all or it could just be that the hard braid itself was enough to irritate his eye. Yes, it was undoubtedly a knockdown. The rules about that are clear.
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I scratched my cornea in sparring a few months ago. It's healed, but ever since, my right eye gets insanely irritated whenever there's impact on it and especially if something touches the eyeball directly. I can understand how much it sucks if his braid hit the eye, or even if the glove grazed it -- still no excuse to take a knee in the middle of a fight. This isn't a sparring session
 
It's 100% fine to take a knee. In fact if you are hurt, jeopardized, or compromised it's a smart thing to do to avoid getting stopped.

The problem was the ref! For whatever reason Tank was compromised and feared getting KO'ed by Roach. Tank's own words confirmed this. Took the knee to avoid that risk & due to his injury or compromised body at the time.

Ref should have gave Tank a count. Then instructed to the judges that it was a knockdown & score accordingly.

Unless there was a foul by Roach it does not matter at all why Tank took the knee.

Even though Roach isn't known for power like Tank & the fact he was coming up 5 pounds he still managed to get into Tank's head & make him fear and respect his power after he caught Tank multiple times.

So to me it's still always going to be more than a hair malfunction. If he didn't fear Roach's ability to do damage in the exchanges that he already established I don't believe Tank is taking that knee.
 

NYSAC blames 'technical issue' for Davis knee no-call, says matter under review​

The New York State Athletic Commission, in a statement to ESPN, said it is "reviewing the matter" involving Saturday's Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach WBA lightweight title fight in Brooklyn.

"Tank" Davis, one of boxing's top stars, took a knee in Round 9 following a punch that landed by Roach. Referee Steve Willis correctly started to count, but when he reached three, he stopped and didn't rule it a knockdown.

If Willis followed the rules and called a knockdown, Roach would have won via decision. Instead, the WBA junior lightweight champion settled for a draw as he attempted to become a two-weight champion in what would have represented a shocking upset. Davis (30-0-1, 28 KOs) was a prohibitive -2000 favorite, per ESPN BET.

Two judges scored the fight 114-114 while a third judge scored it 115-113 for Davis.

"During the round in question, following the commission's request for the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time for review," a commission spokeswoman stated. "Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued.

"The commission is dedicated to preserving the integrity of combative sports and is committed to working with all promotions and production teams -- on behalf of the athletes, officials, and fans -- to ensure technical issues do not occur in the future that prevent the delivery of ringside instant replay feeds to the commission's officials when needed."

Baltimore's Davis said after the bout the reason he took a knee was because grease from a hair treatment Thursday "burned my eyes." Davis was also allowed to have his corner wipe his eyes with a towel, which is prohibited during the round. Only the referee has the authority to halt the action. This is the second major incident involving the New York commission in the last year. In April, boxing star Ryan Garcia's upset victory over Devin Haney was overturned to a no contest after he tested positive for a banned substance. The commission also suspended him for one year and fined him seven figures.

"What I'm wondering is if the commission only makes changes when you complain and cry like Haney or they actually care about the integrity of the sport!" Garcia posted Sunday on X. "Nothing against Tank but since the commission switches my victory they should switch this victory for Roach."

The bout contract included a rematch clause for Davis in the event he didn't win. The 30-year-old said Monday on X he was "pushing for the rematch" as soon as late May.

"If you take a knee and the ref starts counting, it should be a knockdown," Roach (25-1-2) said following the bout. "If that's a knockdown, I win the fight."

Washington D.C.'s Roach, 29, remains the WBA titleholder at 130 pounds. He's rated No. 5 by ESPN at junior lightweight.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_...l-issue-davis-knee-no-call-says-matter-review
 
koquerelle said:

NYSAC blames 'technical issue' for Davis knee no-call, says matter under review​

The New York State Athletic Commission, in a statement to ESPN, said it is "reviewing the matter" involving Saturday's Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach WBA lightweight title fight in Brooklyn.

"Tank" Davis, one of boxing's top stars, took a knee in Round 9 following a punch that landed by Roach. Referee Steve Willis correctly started to count, but when he reached three, he stopped and didn't rule it a knockdown.

If Willis followed the rules and called a knockdown, Roach would have won via decision. Instead, the WBA junior lightweight champion settled for a draw as he attempted to become a two-weight champion in what would have represented a shocking upset. Davis (30-0-1, 28 KOs) was a prohibitive -2000 favorite, per ESPN BET.

Two judges scored the fight 114-114 while a third judge scored it 115-113 for Davis.

"During the round in question, following the commission's request for the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time for review," a commission spokeswoman stated. "Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued.

"The commission is dedicated to preserving the integrity of combative sports and is committed to working with all promotions and production teams -- on behalf of the athletes, officials, and fans -- to ensure technical issues do not occur in the future that prevent the delivery of ringside instant replay feeds to the commission's officials when needed."

Baltimore's Davis said after the bout the reason he took a knee was because grease from a hair treatment Thursday "burned my eyes." Davis was also allowed to have his corner wipe his eyes with a towel, which is prohibited during the round. Only the referee has the authority to halt the action. This is the second major incident involving the New York commission in the last year. In April, boxing star Ryan Garcia's upset victory over Devin Haney was overturned to a no contest after he tested positive for a banned substance. The commission also suspended him for one year and fined him seven figures.

"What I'm wondering is if the commission only makes changes when you complain and cry like Haney or they actually care about the integrity of the sport!" Garcia posted Sunday on X. "Nothing against Tank but since the commission switches my victory they should switch this victory for Roach."

The bout contract included a rematch clause for Davis in the event he didn't win. The 30-year-old said Monday on X he was "pushing for the rematch" as soon as late May.

"If you take a knee and the ref starts counting, it should be a knockdown," Roach (25-1-2) said following the bout. "If that's a knockdown, I win the fight."

Washington D.C.'s Roach, 29, remains the WBA titleholder at 130 pounds. He's rated No. 5 by ESPN at junior lightweight.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_...l-issue-davis-knee-no-call-says-matter-review
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I think that the NYSAC will overturn the decision just as they did with Garcia's "win" over Haney. I don't buy that instant replay wasn't available due to a technical difficulty though. That's a load of shit.
 
I don't think it really matters.

IMO, he didn't seem hurt and his corner was wiping something out of his eyes between rounds a few times. Its not like it makes him look better to make up a story like that. He even mentioned after the fight that Roach caught him with a few good shots.
 
Seano said:
I don't think it really matters.

IMO, he didn't seem hurt and his corner was wiping something out of his eyes between rounds a few times. Its not like it makes him look better to make up a story like that. He even mentioned after the fight that Roach caught him with a few good shots.
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Its going to if they over turn it.
 
Kovalev's Man Bag said:
I think that the NYSAC will overturn the decision just as they did with Garcia's "win" over Haney. I don't buy that instant replay wasn't available due to a technical difficulty though. That's a load of shit.
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I don't think they will. Calling a KD is totally the ref's discretion. Davis didn't go down as a result of a punch, in the ref's view. I think it'll be seen as a foul, which the ref warned him about after.
 
Kovalev's Man Bag said:
I think that the NYSAC will overturn the decision just as they did with Garcia's "win" over Haney. I don't buy that instant replay wasn't available due to a technical difficulty though. That's a load of shit.
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Maybe Davis can argue he'd have fought more aggressively if it had been ruled a knockdown, but still, should be pretty simple on review if they say it's a knockdown, just adjust the cards.
 
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