Why don't MMA gyms properly develop their fighters?

[FighterTwister]

Why don't MMA gyms properly develop their fighters?

Um I am assuming here because I've never been to an MMA gym but I guess because the goal isn't to became fully sound in one art... It's to get a fairly rounded game?

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[Coconutwater]

I think age might be part of it. I've been to low level pro boxing events and the oldest people on the card were 24-25. Most were 18-20. Actually a lot of boxing gyms in the US only train kids and teenagers after school, usually in disadvantaged areas often just to keep them out of trouble. It's actually kind of difficult to find a real non-cardio boxing gym where you can train as an adult. So there's lots of time to develop.

MMA events at the same level are stacked with people in their mid 20s and 30s. If they tried to 'develop' throughout their careers they'd have 5 fights by the time they're ready to retire. There's also no MMA gym culture of training inner city and poor kids and teenagers. Kids programs are rare and it's usually BJJ only or just like an after school karate thing. I wonder if that's effected how MMA gyms learned to develop their fighters?

There's no youth MMA program that I know of unlike boxing.

It's not like there's a league that sanctions kneeing someone in the head even with head gear. It's hard to sell MMA as a youth sports simply because it still has a reputation as human cock-fighting. Even though it has rules and plenty of technique, no parent or commissioning body in the United States will allow their kid to knee, elbow or kick another kid in the head. Boxing with headgear, though supremely dangerous to developing brains, doesn't come off as violent as a full spectrum MMA arsenal.

 

[Coconutwater]

MMA gyms send untrained newbs to local amateur cards to feed promotional stars' records while pocketing money for themselves. One of my friends had just a few weeks of MMA training and they convinced her to fight on a local show against a veteran of the promotion. Basically it's a money scam that these gyms run.

That sucks. There should be a law that requires a certain amount of hours and days before being allowed your first MMA fight. If you made it a rule the prospective MMA fighter had to train a minimum of 600 hours, it would curb this kind of practice. What crappy ethics some gyms have to feed noobs to prospects.

 

[Tuf_guy]

I walked into a boxing gym the other day and asked how long I would need to train to have an amateur fight. The trainer told me come in every day then 1 year. Extensive amateur careers and proper development is just part of boxing's culture.

I've been to MMA gyms before and seen guys fighting after 3 months. They have 2 amateur fights then turn pro. Guys have title shots with 10-15 fights.

So, you see guys at even the UFC level with all these obvious flaws in their games that would have been ironed out with proper development.

Why is it not part of MMA's culture to properly develop their fighters?

It probably doesn't help that they're going through the same shit as unknown pros , but for free, or close to it.

 

[JRubin]

Oh in bjj gyms around me, they call standup the wrestling/throwing portion. I can see it confusing other people. I am also assuming you don't train BJJ since it is a common term that is somewhat used in the community. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=bjj+standup

Ok.... and Tristar does not offer one, so I'm still not following what exactly your talking about...

 

[NoSmilez]

Ok.... and Tristar does not offer one, so I'm still not following what exactly your talking about...

Do they start standing on their knees or on their feet?

 

[superpunch]

Why don't MMA gyms properly develop their fighters?




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I wonder how much it eats at GSP -- being such a perfectionist -- that no matter how much of a martial artist he is, no matter how hard he tries, a fighter like Ngannou will always torch him in the first round. Unless he's willing to do what it takes to gain 40 lbs of mass.

 

[FighterTwister]

I wonder how much it eats at GSP -- being such a perfectionist -- that no matter how much of a martial artist he is, no matter how hard he tries, a fighter like Ngannou will always torch him in the first round. Unless he's willing to do what it takes to gain 40 lbs of mass.

 

[JRubin]

Do they start standing on their knees or on their feet?

Knee's...

FYI your argument is dumb.

Standing BJJ class is a poor comparison to wrestling, it does not prepare you in the slightest for high level wrestlers, it is a lazy excuse for any aspiring MMArtist.

 

[Jojomojo]

A main part of MMA is the mental game. Even more than other combat sports. If youre the more slilled boxxer, there is prob a 99% chance you winning the fight even if you are nervous as hell.
If you start bitching in a cage even against some washed up, bigbellied Bartender you might gktfo.
MMA gyms test the balls of their fighters (If you think thats smart is up to you), to see if they are even fitted to fight.
Also the level of competition especially at the amateurs is extremly low at times, because some states up to this day still organize sanctioned brawls.

 

[Daniel4802]

That sucks. There should be a law that requires a certain amount of hours and days before being allowed your first MMA fight. If you made it a rule the prospective MMA fighter had to train a minimum of 600 hours, it would curb this kind of practice. What crappy ethics some gyms have to feed noobs to prospects.

I agree that there should be a minimum training experience an amateur is required to have before fighting for an amateur promotion. Unfortunately, because there isn't, a lot of gyms prey on newbs and see it as easy money with minimum involvement.

 

[Vegesus44]

Rights now I'm training UFC in Asia and it cost me about $150 bucks for one session without getting rained on!

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

MMA training in general is still decades behind other sports. A lot of it is still predicated on "bro culture" with some of the dumbest fucking training programs imaginable. Versus other sports like boxing which treat it as a science.

 

[ColombianFist]

MMA is a niche sport with a really small amateur circuit unlike boxing. also, the competitiveness in boxing is huge in comparison to MMA so the preparation time is longer.

 

[AWilder]

Most new MMA fighters work 1-3 jobs to make ends meet. Need that Reebok money asap.

 

[thobra]

MMA fighters struggle with vertigo, headaches, blurry vision, tinitus, And rarely have long careers. Many also struggle to get a normal job after their career is over, because of all their troubles.

Dumb to fight for free or shorten your pro career on «Development».

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Mma you can have a base nobody goes into boxing with a base

 

[PabloMEX]

Any respectable gym will not allow you to take a fight unless you are actually ready for ammy/pro. You put your gym's reputation on the line.

 

[NoSmilez]

Knee's...

FYI your argument is dumb.

Standing BJJ class is a poor comparison to wrestling, it does not prepare you in the slightest for high level wrestlers, it is a lazy excuse for any aspiring MMArtist.

I don't think you ever been in a gym where rolls start from standing. MMA wrestling isn't even wrestling. What you are talking about is just takedowns/defense.
What is preventing you from standing up from your knees in your gym?
Are they not teaching any standup at all? Doesn't your gym have open mat?
Do you have high level wrestlers in your gym? You can't work with them during a roll?

 

[jrleclerc88]

I walked into a boxing gym the other day and asked how long I would need to train to have an amateur fight. The trainer told me come in every day then 1 year. Extensive amateur careers and proper development is just part of boxing's culture.

I've been to MMA gyms before and seen guys fighting after 3 months. They have 2 amateur fights then turn pro. Guys have title shots with 10-15 fights.

So, you see guys at even the UFC level with all these obvious flaws in their games that would have been ironed out with proper development.

Why is it not part of MMA's culture to properly develop their fighters?

he probably just thinks ur a bitch thats ehy he said 1 year. i faught after 3 months brah