Why don't MMA gyms properly develop their fighters?

[superpunch]

I walked into a boxing gym the other day and asked how long I would need to train to have an amateur fight. The trainer told me come in every day then 1 year. Extensive amateur careers and proper development is just part of boxing's culture.

I've been to MMA gyms before and seen guys fighting after 3 months. They have 2 amateur fights then turn pro. Guys have title shots with 10-15 fights.

So, you see guys at even the UFC level with all these obvious flaws in their games that would have been ironed out with proper development.

Why is it not part of MMA's culture to properly develop their fighters?

 

[DanAndroid]

You don't have to ask your coach permission to fight for one. It is not like you are walking into ATT, the gym you went to is so irrelevant you couldn't even be bothered to list the name. High level gyms don't usually do that.

 

[cauti0n]

Um I am assuming here because I've never been to an MMA gym but I guess because the goal isn't to became fully sound in one art... It's to get a fairly rounded game?

 

[Michael Of The Mist]

MMA is a relatively new sport. I’m sure it will change. The amateur world of boxing can be very competitive aswell as prestigious(olympics etc)
In MMA you just fight and hope to get noticed.

Hopefully MMA will become a Olympic sport

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Really depends on the state TBH. Virginia is notorious for having pretty much bar room level retards fighting due to having less pre fight medical checks. Here in NC it cost me almost $300 in copays to afford to do an ammy fight. We used to have a guy who was AWFUL at our gym and he would never take a fight in NC and always traveled to up to VA to do fights because it was against people who literally don't train. This guy got subbed left and right by new white belts. He eventually left because he would only train when he had a fight and refused to do any organized muay thai or jiu jitsu class.

 

[superpunch]

MMA is a relatively new sport. I’m sure it will change. The amateur world of boxing can be very competitive aswell as prestigious(olympics etc)
In MMA you just fight and hope to get noticed.

Hopefully MMA will become a Olympic sport

I hope not. The Olympics ruined other martial arts that became part of it. Tae Kwon Do, judo, etc. changed their rulesets to be entertaining to watch on TV over effectiveness. The Olympics would probably change it to get rid of the ground game like they did to Judo among other things. And the Olympics are such a huge venue that the pro level might change to be more like the Oympics' bullshit version.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

It all depends on the gym & the individual in boxing. I was only in the gym for about three months before I had my first amateur fight as a kid. Of course, I'd had five years of Isshin Ryu Karate & Tae Kwon Do before I walked into the boxing gym so I had some sort of skills & conditioning to build on & add to. And, of course, it was just a sub-novice fight.
I really don't know why they're rushing people into fights right away in MMA. It would seem to me that with all the different ranges of fighting that one would have to have six months to a year minimum of training before being put into the cage.

 

[this is my new account]

Money. Fighters want money and in mma the damage you take in developing skills would probably kill your career by the time you got to that level you talk about

 

[superpunch]

I really don't know why they're rushing people into fights right away in MMA. It would seem to me that with all the different ranges of fighting that one would have to have six months to a year minimum of training before being put into the cage.

I think age might be part of it. I've been to low level pro boxing events and the oldest people on the card were 24-25. Most were 18-20. Actually a lot of boxing gyms in the US only train kids and teenagers after school, usually in disadvantaged areas often just to keep them out of trouble. It's actually kind of difficult to find a real non-cardio boxing gym where you can train as an adult. So there's lots of time to develop.

MMA events at the same level are stacked with people in their mid 20s and 30s. If they tried to 'develop' throughout their careers they'd have 5 fights by the time they're ready to retire. There's also no MMA gym culture of training inner city and poor kids and teenagers. Kids programs are rare and it's usually BJJ only or just like an after school karate thing. I wonder if that's effected how MMA gyms learned to develop their fighters?

 

[sweetviolenturg]

I think age might be part of it. I've been to low level pro boxing events and the oldest people on the card were 24-25. Most were 18-20. Actually a lot of boxing gyms in the US only train kids and teenagers after school, usually in disadvantaged areas often just to keep them out of trouble. It's actually kind of difficult to find a real non-cardio boxing gym where you can train as an adult. So there's lots of time to develop.

MMA events at the same level are stacked with people in their mid 20s and 30s. If they tried to 'develop' throughout their careers they'd have 5 fights by the time they're ready to retire. There's also no MMA gym culture of training inner city and poor kids and teenagers. Kids programs are rare and it's usually BJJ only or just like an after school karate thing. I wonder if that's effected how MMA gyms learned to develop their fighters?

Makes sense to me. Good points, bro.

 

[gevoudane]

Ive seen boxers fight amateur after only a few months. Its the pro fight thats harde to get.

 

[D Train]

Lots of dudes come into mma with wrestling experience. They can transition to fighting pretty quickly.

 

[KarateStylist]

I walked into a boxing gym the other day and asked how long I would need to train to have an amateur fight. The trainer told me come in every day then 1 year. Extensive amateur careers and proper development is just part of boxing's culture.

I've been to MMA gyms before and seen guys fighting after 3 months. They have 2 amateur fights then turn pro. Guys have title shots with 10-15 fights.

So, you see guys at even the UFC level with all these obvious flaws in their games that would have been ironed out with proper development.

Why is it not part of MMA's culture to properly develop their fighters?

Where's my byline kid?

 

[KarateStylist]

Um I am assuming here because I've never been to an MMA gym but I guess because the goal isn't to became fully sound in one art... It's to get a fairly rounded game?

Thank you.

signed... Damien Maia.

 

[NoSmilez]

I don't know about the whole fight two fights then turn pro thing. What state are you from? What is your point of reference?

 

[PicoPulse]

I walked into a boxing gym the other day and asked how long I would need to train to have an amateur fight. The trainer told me come in every day then 1 year. Extensive amateur careers and proper development is just part of boxing's culture.

I've been to MMA gyms before and seen guys fighting after 3 months. They have 2 amateur fights then turn pro. Guys have title shots with 10-15 fights.

So, you see guys at even the UFC level with all these obvious flaws in their games that would have been ironed out with proper development.

Why is it not part of MMA's culture to properly develop their fighters?

Shhhhhhh youre fiddling with ancient secrets.

 

[djason1988]

Most MMA gyms don't have a large stable of fighters, rather they get their money from kids programs, fitness programs, and BJJ. The ones who do wanna fight are usually tapout wearing dudebros and they're gone in 6 months if they're not getting a fight.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

CoGar got his chin shattered in the ammys. He stayed in 1 fight too long.

 

[SuperNerd]

TS sets himself up for the best responses. I see his game.

 

[boss429]

I don't know about the whole fight two fights then turn pro thing. What state are you from? What is your point of reference?

There have been many pro MMA fighters who never had a single amateur fight.

BJ Penn went from training and competing in BJJ for 3 years straight to fighting in the UFC for example.