Why does Gaethje feel entitled to a title shot?

[RockyLockridge]

Probably because he knows his window to be a champ is almost closed so he wants to make the most of it, I think he is baking in his reputation to be an exciting fighter to leverage his way into a TS, he just doesn’t want to be used as a stepping stone for an up and comer anymore.

He just fought an up and comer in fiziev who is trending to be a future top 5 guy

 

[volcom5]

The worst loss of his career the first time he ever got slept and he bounced back against a younger fighter and took that fight short notice

Gaethje benefitted heavily in that bout against Fiziev, Fiziev has been out healing a injury for over a year, 12 days short notice, last person he fought prior to getting injured against Gamrot was Gaethje, Fiziev fighting style didnt have time to improve or change due to said injury, Gaethje had a full camp & this fight changed from 5 to 3 rounds, which benefits a Gaethje more.

To me Gaethje needs one more bout, The who is the question, i don’t think he deserves the title shot, but you never know the UFC matchmaking has been a questionable and I think his threat to retire didnt really seem to go over well with Dana & co. I think the UFC is waiting for the result of the Hooker vs Tsarukyan bout, to get clearer picture.

If Tsarukyan wins, looks good and has no problems on the scale, I think they’re going to go with.
Tsarukyan vs Topuria
Pimblett vs Gaethje or Holloway (Gaethje gets frustrated and retires)

 

[CombatCyborg]

After he lost to Khabib the UFC has treated him like a champion.

 

[snugglecakes]

Cause CTE

he always was and always will be... Justa Gatekeepthje

 

[Mammothman]

He just fought an up and comer in fiziev who is trending to be a future top 5 guy

U are right, he probably thinks it's enough and doesn't wants to wait any longer since he is not getting any younger.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Gaethje benefitted heavily in that bout against Fiziev, Fiziev has been out healing a injury for over a year, 12 days short notice, last person he fought prior to getting injured against Gamrot was Gaethje, Fiziev fighting style didnt have time to improve or change due to said injury, Gaethje had a full camp & this fight changed from 5 to 3 rounds, which benefits a Gaethje more.

Maybe but gaethje is an aged fighter and just came off the worst loss of his career and still bounced back.

Porier got slaughtered by gaethje, then he Fought BSD who had a staph infection on his forehead, that was enough for a title shot.

But when gaethje loses to max, and he bounces back with a win it's all of a sudden not good enough. In my opinion it's blatant favouritism. Charles loses his belt to a scale, get dominated by islam, and in just one fight gets a rematch too. Only gaethje has to do more. He's simply held to a higher standard than his contemporaries.

 

[Xoleth]

Because:
- he is a known fighter
- he is entertaining, very entertaining
- besides Arman, who already has a fight, there is nobody else

Does he deserve it? Fuck no!
- he lost 2 title shots, being finished each time
- he got KTFO by Max
- most of the guys he beat in UFC are no longer in UFC (Cowboy, Tony, Vick, Dustin) or gone to FW (Johnson, Barboza). Other then these, he beat Michael Chandler. And Chandler is a great fighter, but everybody beat Chandler. And Fiziev. Who is a very good striker. And the first fight was actually close, it could have been a draw. Second fight, he was coming from a big injury.

But, with Arman being scheduled to fight Hooker, there is him and this guy

Make your pick

 

[volcom5]

Maybe but gaethje is an aged fighter and just came off the worst loss of his career and still bounced back.

Sure, I didn’t imply it wasnt impressive or a great win, it was. But we can’t just gloss over the late replacement, the injury, the time off, if the original bout with Hooker was the one that occurred and Gaethje dominated I would have no problem with him getting the shot at the vacant title, which was given to Oliviera which I didn’t agree with.

Porier got slaughtered by gaethje, then he Fought BSD who had a staph infection on his forehead, that was enough for a title shot.

You’re making it sound worst than what occurred, Gaethje “slaughtered” Poirier is a stretch, the fight was even coming out of the first, the scorecards had Poirier winning the first round. Gaethje did win in spectacular fashion with that KO though.

Poirier beating a St Denis who was on a solid 3 fight win streak with all finishes did not get him the title shot, the title shot was offered to Armand Tsarukyan, Tsarukyan declined the bout, Gaethje couldnt be offered as he just got KO’d, Holloway was unsure what his plans were but all signs led to him fighting Topuria, Oliviera just loss and wasnt getting another title shot, only person available that was at the top of the rankings was Dustin Poirier or maybe Gamrot? I don’t really remember but they went Poirier as he was the highest ranked. Only reason Poirier got the title shot was availability and Tsarukyan declining the bout.

Nice bullet point you added with St Denis and his staph, did you know, Merab had staph against Umar? and went on to win in a 5round war? Makhachev also had staph vs Poirier and won, and the opposite results Prochazka loss with staph, Rakic loss with staph. Point is, thats a decision the fighter made to continue with the fight. St Denis cardio is suspect and I think Poirier would’ve still beat him Staph or no staph.

But when gaethje loses to max, and he bounces back with a win it's all of a sudden not good enough.

It’s not good enough because of the person he won against, thats truth. Bouncing back, getting a win is greet and all, but the opponent wasnt a good win, given the circumstances and Gaethje’s if you don’t give me this then I quit routine probably left a sour note towards his chances for one to be honest.

In my opinion it's blatant favouritism. Charles loses his belt to a scale, get dominated by islam, and in just one fight gets a rematch too.

I agree, that was some bullshit matchmaking, Gaethje should’ve gotten the next title shot at the time, I agree with the blatant favs with Oliviera, I think he should’ve had to work his way up much more than just one win, but im not the matchmaker. And given the way a good handful of people on here were riding Oliviera based on some faith that he was the answer to Makhachev, in reality Oliveira is unreliable, I mean for fucks sake who the hell gets a cut from training week of the fight, idiots.

Only gaethje has to do more. He's simply held to a higher standard than his contemporaries.

It’s the opponent he beat in Fiziev, it wasnt a good win in terms of the circumstances in his opponent not the performance, it’s just unfortunate that Hooker got injured. And I mentioned the divisions move quick, with the return of Tsarukyan especially if he wins, it’s practically a given Tsarukyan gets the next title shot, but things are very unpredictable, Gaethje somehow still might get it.

 

[PaulieVegas27]

He doesn't. He's just talking out of his ass.

 

[TOMFDJYEDH]

Paddy would have elbowed his annoying entitlted face in. Gaethje was too scared to take the fight though.

Ilia flatlines him in half a round, hopefully Justin retires then.

 

[RockyLockridge]

It’s the opponent he beat in Fiziev, it wasnt a good win in terms of the circumstances in his opponent not the performance, it’s just unfortunate that Hooker got injured. And I mentioned the divisions move quick, with the return of Tsarukyan especially if he wins, it’s practically a given Tsarukyan gets the next title shot, but things are very unpredictable, Gaethje somehow still might get it.

Gaethje DID slaughtered porier he disconnected his lights with a KO of the year contender in a ppv main event.

Fiziev is not a good enough win, but BSD who wasn't even ranked 10 was?

And chandler, who was coming off two losses was too.

But not fiziev. And gaethje should be punished for fighting fiziev again? Because It's gaethjes fault hooker didnt showed up?


It's simply different standards

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

You can't blame him really, every fighter thinks they deserve a title fight. It would be a fun style matchup as well.

 

[svmr_db]

Because the loss to Holloway doesn't count, he said it was an exhibition fight!

 

[Karate Kid]

i love how convenient Max outclassing him every round and knocking him the fuck out but he is holding onto the name of Fiziev, quite literally for dear leaf, you know, a fighter nowhere near the top.

there is zero logic behind his title shot and being entertaining once again, will never be it.

but he beat fiziev!

 

[Tweak896]

I'm sick of how common it is lately for the UFC to consider guys that are 0-2 in title fights giving them a 3rd for basically doing nothing. I guess HW is a little different, but LW has tons of guys on winning streaks. Gaethje and Usman are playing the wait game to hope to skip the line. I like Gaethje as a fighter and am sort of a fan, but this is the kind of shit that backs up divisions.

If he wins he's retiring soon, don't expect much of a champ run. If he loses, then he goes away and the champ defended against a retired fighter with a foot out the door. Fiziev is a decent win, but cmon that was last minute Fiziev.

 

[volcom5]

Gaethje DID slaughtered porier he disconnected his lights with a KO of the year contender in a ppv main event.

Okay, Im just going to agree to disagree, your definition of slaughtered is entirely different to mine in terms of MMA

Fiziev is not a good enough win, but BSD who wasn't even ranked 10 was?

I know you don’t want to hear this, but they both weren’t not top 10, St Denis is better win because simply he’s been active and was on a win streak while Fiziev was out due to injury for over a year close to 2 years in a loss, and Fiziev was really the one short notice.

You’re making it Poirier based on thst win alone, he got it because everyone else just loss and Tsarukyan pussied out to fight Makhachev on a 7 week turn around, availability was the reason why got the title shot

And chandler, who was coming off two losses was too.

Pimblett vs Gaethje should be the match then, because Gaethje is definitely not getting it if Tsarukyan wins.

“ But not fiziev. And gaethje should be punished for fighting fiziev again? Because It's gaethjes fault hooker didnt showed up?”

Gaethje’s probably being punished for being an idiot with the “I quit” threat, he also given at chance at the title on short notice, decline because too fat, I understand he wants to be at his optimum, but thats on him for being unprofessional, he should’ve stayed ready so he doesn’t have to get ready.

It's simply different standards

The divisions move quick, some divisions move quicker than others with fan favorites, the UFC notices, yes it is different standards & Gaethje won’t get it, no matter if you believed he deserves it.

 

[theincognito]

He was due a shot when he decided to step in and save UFC 300. Poirier (who he had just KO'd) went on to get his shot instead.

Now he wants the favor returned.

 

[SeanWRT]

UFC and his manager fucked him over and had him fight max for nothing when he already had a title shot in his grasp.


He's right. He's the most deserving fighter right now.

Presence on UFC300 with a fight where he's a huge favourate was a pretty good arrangement. A nice win would make him a bigger PPV drawer for the title fight. In the end a pay day is what he has wanted.

 

[jeff7b9]

We've seen Topuria beat enough other shopworn strikers in their mid-to-late 30s.

Have we?


If he just fought a fuckton more frequently I wouldn't mind of 1-2 fights a year were rolling out some big name carcas for the slaughter

 

[humdizzle]

he's lost 2 title fights. the man clearly can't grapple his way out of a wet blanket.

islam --> knocks down oliveira and jumps on a submission
gaethje --> knocks down oliveira and gets scared... lets oliviera recover and stand back up.