Why do most ppl on this site always side w Dana over the fighters?

Fighters come dime a dozen and get rich using the UFC's platform.

The fighters don't care about each other why should we?
 
That dumb shit will never make a dime as a fight promoter.
 
Mavrilicious said:
The physical hardship and amount of stars that need to sign for a fighter to make an ample living is up there.

Because some people enjoy fighting. Doesn't means they need to be exploited for it
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I don't know, friend. With all due respect the toll on the body of the average tradesman is pretty heavy. And they get no glory, no sponsors, crappy if any medical, and end up working their broken bodies into their sixties (often in harsh weather) to keep food on the table. Even factory workers often end up with broken bodies. I just don't see it.

I agree that exploitation is a bad thing. But I don't know that I see that either. Just because a fighter is on TV doesn't mean he's made it. It's a career of trying to achieve. And not until you've achieved (if you can) do you reap the rewards. Musicians and artists know this better than any.
 
The loudest voices inform the most minds.
A huge chunk of mma or ufc fans think nobody knows how to fight it’s just the promotion that makes them good fighters.

it’s no mystery.
 
m249viking said:
Doesn't mean they don't. No one forced them to be a fighter.
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How do you make living ? Dr? Lawyer or scientist? World leader? Ceo?

what do you love doing in life and what lie are you going to say online that you’re doing in said life ?

i don’t have social media so I would like one idiots opinion on journeybkf traversing through life.
 
SokoudjouFanboy said:
Ok so let's take this one by one

1. Technically true ,sure, but the problem is the UFC has monopolized the industry using anti competitive tactics to heavily incentivize fighters to not only sign with them but to do it on their terms. They signed the contract but what condition does the industry exist under when they sign the contract and why are the incentive structures built the way they are?

2. Being a pro MMA fighter is clearly a full time job and a lifestyle rolled into one. The idea that they work "one day a year" could have it's own write up on how stupid it is to suggest. Either way the closest relative of the MMA fighter in terms of their day to day is the boxer and Top Rank, PBC, Matchroom, Golden Boy etc don't get 83-90% of the revenue when a boxer fights, I assure you.

3. Most? Source? Define most. The UFC has 700 people on it's roster. A giant portion of them absolutely do not make more then most 9-5ers when everyone gets their piece. They pay taxes like an independent contractor and have extremely high expenses relative to yours and mine.

4. Who the fuck cares. The problem is in the revenue split. The fact of the matter is the promotional body is taking 83-90% of the revenue in a sport, especially one that is inherently driven by the athletes is only not criminal because the sport is in it's infancy. "Like an NFL player"? I don't mean to be pedantic but I literally don't know what that is supposed to mean.
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Ok so let's take this one by one

1. you're mostly right but signing must have been better than the alternative. cell phone contracts aren't in my best interest but what's the alternative? so i sign

2. I disagree my social media follows are mostly athletes (including a lot of MMA fighters) and hot girls. MMA fighters definitely spend more time traveling, hunting, water skiing, atv'ing, getting tats, working out and partying than my non MMA friends. Not sure how that lifestyle is so hard when rolled all into one.

3. Independent contractor taxes are only 6%

4. so go work for a different promotional body. or if dana is such a goof and its so easy to do start you're own promotion
 
I honestly think it's because the subject is so repetitive nowadays that people are just sick of hearing about it.

Every day there's a "X fighter complains about UFC pay" thread, after every card there's a "UFC fight purses are a joke" thread and after every boxing event there's a "Boxer fighter X made more than whole UFC main card" thread.

And the responses are so repetitive (Dana snow driveway, greedy Endeavor, 13-18% share for fighters, etc.) that it gets annoying. So people start to defend the bad guy.
 
Kvolcom said:
Do you guys like watching MMA or do you just watch Dana sambling different kinds of food so that's why you're here?

Would you prefer all the fighters leave and you just watch dana eat food in the Octagon once a month on PPV?
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What site have you been visiting? Most people here hate Dana
 
It's not always accurate to come after dana, but normally if anything goes wrong he gets all the blame here
 
El Panteron said:
They do? There's tons of bootlickers of course but I don't think it's the majority, at least regarding Dana.

In any case, Dana has a MUCH bigger presence on media than most of his fighters and makes it mostly about himself.
The exposure alone shifts some sympathies his way, and I guess for some his brash shit and ultra-capitalistic propaganda rings home.
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How would you watch the sport if it was ran by commie socialists ?
 
It’s mostly ironic shitposting to be fair.
 
I honestly get more of the opposite impression on this forum. Ever since his snow driveway became public knowledge, people on here have overwhelming jealousy
 
Kvolcom said:
Do you guys like watching MMA or do you just watch Dana sambling different kinds of food so that's why you're here?

Would you prefer all the fighters leave and you just watch dana eat food in the Octagon once a month on PPV?
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Some of them might look up to him in a way ?
 
I wouldn't say I always side with Dana, but I often do. I think it's because I have been watching since the very beginning of the UFC, and saw how much the sport grew once the Fertitta's and Dana took it over. Their money and leadership are directly responsible for the sport going from a spectecle blood sport [I say that lovingly], to a major league sport. So I respect how hard Dana works and has worked to build the franchise. He's a goof sometimes, but he loves the UFC.
 
Oz.Pride said:
Can we ban this guy retroactively for signing up for sherdog in 2021 when he was 14 years old? There's no way an adult made this post. @mods
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Pretty sure the minimum age to sign up is 13
 
Social engineering leading people to believe that the only fairness in the world is taking as much as you can and that there is nothing wrong with exploiting your employees. It's their own fault for putting up with it and not quitting.

Whoever has the power to take, deserves to keep it. Capitalism is literally how wild animals live. It's an insultingly backwards economic system that even the people of the bronze age considered backwards.
 
TheNinja said:
Because we don't like to see athletes bitch and moan about making enough money, when they:
1. Know what they are signing up for
2. Fight like once per year (baseball players have 162 games for crying out loud)
3. Make more than a lot of us 9-5ers
4. Act like they are elite level athletes and should be paid like an NFL player when a single NFL team is worth like 75% of the entire UFC. You got more people watching a Thursday night Jaguars vs Titans game than people watching a big PPV.
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Dude just stop beating the dead fucking horse. How many times are you nitwits going to keep posting the same bullshit four or five points even though they have all been thoroughly refuted? It makes me think you're a fucking paid shill.
 
Kvolcom said:
Do you guys like watching MMA or do you just watch Dana sambling different kinds of food so that's why you're here?

Would you prefer all the fighters leave and you just watch dana eat food in the Octagon once a month on PPV?
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Because we remember the way it used to be. When fighters fought 3 or 4 times a year and didn't bitch and moan like ten year old girls. When champions actually defended their titles instead of sitting out with a hangnail for a year and/or bitching about their contract.

Because we expect people to take personal responsibility for their choices, to honor the contracts they sign and fulfill the commitments therein.

Because we aren't drooling idiots that recognize there is far more to the discussion than revenue split. We realize comparing the UFC to boxing or sports leagues is not an apples to apples comparison.

Because we realize it costs a great deal of money to provide the platform, infrastructure and support for the fighters to give them the opportunity to earn a living doing what they love.

Because we want to see the sport grow and succeed more than some bitching malcontent making hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
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