Why do fighters with a decorated kickboxing background get KOd in MMA by fighters w/ amaterish hands

[Quantum Jake]

Examples:
Cro cop/kevin randlemann
Overeem/bigfoot
Joe schilling/hisaki Kato
Melvin manhoef/anyone
Ernesto hoost/bob sapp
Pat barry/all

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Kickboxing doesn't translate directly into MMA due to the risk of the takedown. They gotta develop "MMA kickboxing"... & even then... it's just a facet of what it takes to win.

Being in a cage instead of a ring is a huge difference. Ask Cro Cop. The "dirty boxing" pushes a person against an immovable object & takes a kickboxer right out of his game.

Overeem is in with the heaviest handz in the world & so anyone can get "touched" in that division.

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Threat of a takedown.

Anticipation of opponent shooting drops the defense, leaving the head open.

 

[Filthy Phil]

Cage instead of ring
Threat of takedown
Small gloves

 

[BloodBonesNButter]

Smaller less padded gloves?

 

[chunglii]

because MMA isn't kickboxing

 

[FadeLess]

I think the answers above summarize it all.
I just wanted to say that your list is good , except for Hoost vs Sapp ... that one is incorrect.

 

[reddhelium]

Smaller less padded gloves?

that was my first thought

 

[CrimsonFan]

It happens in boxing and kickboxing too. Its called an upset

Its a fight, all it takes is one

 

[Mr Wings]

Not quite the same, but Wonderboy gets
tagged pretty often in his fights. He doesn't get KOed, but it just always surprises me that his opponents are confident enough to trade with him, and that they are able to land on him.

 

[Mr Wings]

Big Foot had a black belt in karate by age 12, so he's been striking pretty much his whole life. And obviously he has continued to train his striking throughout his MMA career.

Other possible theories/factors for how Big Foot KOed Overeem: Overeem didn't respect his power (according to Rogan), Overeem has a weak chin (according to much of Sherdog), and Overeem's kickboxing defense didn't translate well into MMA because of the difference in glove size.

 

[Bogeyman]

Because when things heat up in a kickboxing fight, the ref jumps in right away and stops it. Not the case in MMA.

 

[CTYankee]

They need to keep their hands lower to avoid the takedown.

 

[bad_k]

This is why I keep saying many high profile boxers will get KO'd in MMA too.

 

[panzer723]

Examples:
Cro cop/kevin randlemann
Overeem/bigfoot
Joe schilling/hisaki Kato
Melvin manhoef/anyone
Ernesto hoost/bob sapp
Pat barry/all

The Ernest Hoost vs. Bob Sapp fight is not an mma bout,it's a Kickboxing bout.

 

[Quantum Jake]

The Ernest Hoost vs. Bob Sapp fight is not an mma bout,it's a Kickboxing bout.

Its a kickboxer vs a football player essentially

 

[Raphael]

Que?

 

[Quantum Jake]

This is why I keep saying many high profile boxers will get KO'd in MMA too.

So far none have.

 

[$uicideboy$]

Smaller less padded gloves?

wouldnt u just train/spar with smaller less padded gloves and get used to them

 

[KeiranMc]

Risk of the takedown bro....