Why do fighters still bother to run for "cardio"

I prefer jumping rope myself. I always sucked at running in school and stuff. Maybe it I tried running somewhere with nice scenery it would be different.
 
cagerageforever said:
Thailand just called and asked you to retract your bullshit.
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amazing argument. you sound knowledgeable. 110 lbs thais with 90% first round ko's and getting exhausted in the second are a game changer.

just look up some training footage of prime k 1 days dutch style kickboxers.
 
GrantB13 said:
I prefer jumping rope myself. I always sucked at running in school and stuff. Maybe it I tried running somewhere with nice scenery it would be different.
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I agree.
I'm actually not bad at running but 1) I hate it (swimming is so much more fun) therefore I don't do it often 2)I'm far from being nearly as technically proficient as I want to be, so I have better things to do for now, maybe the day I am a black belt in bjj, a strong wrestler that can hang with D2 guys and Bangkok ready I will start to run but I don't think this day comes soon, if it comes.
 
Just a question for guys who don't think there is some truth to what I say.
Do you really think mma guys don't have any holes in their game they should work on? Do you really think they all have impeccable striking and ground game? Wouldn't it be wiser to replace that worthy training time by something where they could work on improving their technique?
The more skilled you are, the more you can afford running, and by extension S and C. Lol at guys who are white belts and only know how to throw a shitty hook who are already on a 4 days a week S and C program, gyms are full of those nerds lol.
Because there is often the argument that "this champ does that, so it must be right" (which isn't really a legit argument, Ali also let his training partners hit him in the face hundreds of times after training, not sure if that was what made him great...) how come GSP doesn't do long distance running (according to Zahabi), and that there is no evidence Jones and Anderson ever ran long distances in their life?
You also have champs like Usman who don't run, what about that?

It's a bit of a stretch, don't immediately get mad at me, but the "you need cardio for mma and running is the best way to get cardio so you need to spend a fair amount of your training time running" argument could equal something like "you need grip strength for Bjj and climbing is the best way to get grip strength so you need to climb a fair amount of your training time"
 
IngaVovchanchyn said:
This is so wrong.


There are only two proven ways to get superhero level cardio.
1. Running through Philly followed by crowds of fans.
2. Racing Apollo Creed on the beach.

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The little shorts are helpful too.
 
Zarate said:
dont know about that - tbh i have to disagree. it must be at least 70% (hiit) and 30% (lit). You will gas out after two low kicks by doing mainly slow hour long sessions.

A year round in shape fighter doesnt need to do a lot of cardio sessions anyway. thats the reason why a goat like khamzat is focusing mainly on hiit.

combat sport cardio / endurance is a different animal.
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Khamzat runs long distances too bro
 
You can learn all the techniques in the world, it won't mean shit if you don't have the endurance.

Running is and will always be the best cardio workout for fighters.

I've had 24 amateur boxing matches and I'm telling you there is no substitute to running. It gives you a lot of confidence when you know you've put the road work in.
 
GoatArtemLobov said:
True but
1) You can get tremedous cardio by working on sport specific things, like wall walking, Dutch drills, flow wrestling, bjj drills, etc
2) The more proficient you are at something, the less tired you get. Put the Marathon World Champ, who must have a 30 BPM resting heart rate, and incredible VO2 max etc. against your typical out of shape UFC fighter, and I bet you he is gassing before the UFC guy, irregardless of getting his ass kicked
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Lmao you ain't building your cardio doing drills. And I mean fight cardio.

Running and sparring does
 
GoatArtemLobov said:
Again, have you ever seen Jones, Anderson or GSP run long distance.
The only Goat candidate that was known to run a lot is Fedor.
It rather is a conditionning method from people who don't know better I think.
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Jones runs up mountains what you talking about? If you think Silva or GSP never did road work because you haven't seen them do it you're stupid lol
 
In a ways ts is right, too much running diminishes the cartilage in the knees due to the impact.

The best activity for cardio is definitely noodle head smacking in an Olympic sized pool lol
 
djason1988 said:
You're 100% correct, and more and more gyms are moving away from running, but movies and old timey training methods have ingrained running as essential in the minds of the general populace.
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Is their cardio better than the people that run? Just because they don't do it doesn't mean what they are doing is better. People always praise Diaz brothers for their cardio and everyone knows they do triathlons but you don't see everyone doing triathlons to improve their cardio. Conor doesn't run, Floyd does, and cardio was definitely on Floyd's side in their fight. Everyone knows how many miles Floyd runs a day getting ready for fights, yet not everyone goes and runs those miles like Floyd does. So just because other fighters aren't doing it, doesn't mean what they are doing is better.

A lot of fighters also don't use a lot of footwork and movement so fighting stationary is different than fighting with footwork and movement. Muay Thai/Kickboxing isn't footwork/movement heavy. But even without the extra footwork/movement traditional muay thai camps runs miles every morning before training. Nothing replaces running. You can do other things to aid in cardio but without building a solid base first from running miles, they'll be at a cardio disadvantage.
 
Hatorade said:
If we're talking about elite fighters...........Cardio > technique
If Brock Lesnar had the same cardio as Nick Diaz, he would literally be unbeatable
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if he had the cardio of Nick Diaz, he wouldn't be a 300lbs monster.
 
GoatArtemLobov said:
I started with boxing, I love boxing, but you are an idiot if you don't understand there is less to learn in boxing than in mma.
Boxing is about being extra proficient at few things, which makes it a deadly combat sport because boxers are super proficient at what they do, but they don't do as much as mma fighters.
Just like there are more things to know in triathlon than there are is cycling, this is just facts, it doesn't mean that I think that triathlon is superior to cycling.
Man do I need to explain everything to you in order you don't get butthurt or triggered because you don't understand anything?
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The same can be said about all martial arts. MMA is different because it's all martial arts mixed together, boxing is one of those martial arts mixed in MMA. MMA isn't a martial art by itself, it's a mix of other martial arts. MMA was formed by having different martial arts styles compete to see which was the best style. Then everyone started cross training and mixing martial arts and everyone has their own mix of martial arts that they mix together for MMA. So it became less about one specific martial art, and more about mixing the martial arts together.
 
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