Why didn't we elect this man President?

Why didn't we elect this man?

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lecter said:
How would you describe Kasich in your own words? What's his political ideology?
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Pragmatic conservative who supports small government, reasonable taxes and a reasonable social safety net.

He cut income taxes and made up the revenue by increasing taxes on fracking
 
I do find it interesting that the left, the right, and his supporters were all wrong on what the predicted Trump would be as president. I was expecting him to be a dumpster fire (but at least isolationist), worse than he has been, but was hoping the other sides would start to reform after losing to a clown. Instead, they all seem to just be doubling down on their dipshitness. Hopefully some day we actually get a party that is for the people, one that can actually change with the times and believe in science, not feelings.
 
Madmick said:


The other part of Maher's show from Friday night. Kasich opens a bit shaky by trying to split hairs on recreational vs. medicinal marijuana, which Maher rightly calls out, but from that point on it is a splendid interview revealing the "reformation" of the Republican party that was genuinely needed, not this "anti-establishment" mongoloid who currently inhabits the office; that Kasich was ever perceived as the "establishment" just reveals how ignorant the Trumpets are.

Trump was supposed to be the guy who radically redefined the Republican party. What a spectacular lie. What a cheap con. From killing internet privacy/neutrality to proposing a one-page tax plan that kills taxes for the 1% to his health care plan that seems determined to kill everybody but Warren Buffett...the man has proven to be nothing but a lie.

He was supposed to be the outsider who would rein in Wall Street, but instead Goldman Sachs alumni and other billionaires hold more positions in his cabinet than in any administration in history. His son-in-law (who is a lifelong Democrat) recently was revealed to secretly hold partnerships with Goldman Sachs and George Soros.

He is rolling back Frank-Dodd which was the backbone of some of the only protections against central banking malfeasance that led to the Great Recession. There's no talk about restoring previous protections or measures like Glass-Steagall, either, or creating new but spiritually similar legislation. There's no talk of restrictions or reform of any kind for the central banks & the largest hedge fund managers that doesn't involve the word "deregulation". This is probably the only real estate in the country where nearly every American agrees that regulations are a good and necessary thing with more needed.

Each new day brings a troubling new headline about Trump businesses abusing the separation of vested financial family interest. Just this week they used an official state department's twitter to pimp Ivanka's book, and pushed reporters out of a room where many of Kushner's business associates were speaking with Chinese elites.

He was going to be the President who stopped ruling by executive decree, and yet he's issued more executive orders in his first 100 days than any other President except for FDR (who was socializing everything to fight off the Great Depression). They're not even well-written, btw, because the man can barely read, and struggles comprehending even the simplest metaphors like George W. Bush's famous remark that there are "no corners in the Oval Office".

He relentlessly harangued Obama for taking too many vacations and wasting taxpayer money, and yet he spent nearly as much of our money carting state retinues to Mar-A-Lago in his first month (heavily padding his own pocket) than Obama spent on travel and vacations in his first year.

He was going to be the President who understood job creation, but he's creating jobs at a slower rate than Obama did last year, and the majority of pay improvement is going to supervisors/management.

He was supposed to be the candidate who would end the globalist cabal by restoring relations with Putin and other governments focused on actually exterminating radical Islam, while simultaneously pulling us out of the quagmire of war that serves only the military industrial complex, and yet a few months later he hammers Assad with 59 Tomahawks while playing cold war games of hysterical escalation with North Korea. No permission asked. We're still installed in the Middle East. He appears determined not only to spend more than ever on the military, but also to be at least equally interventionist as the most neoconservative past administrations, and to be more unilateral as an executive than ever before.

Many classic conservatives supported Trump because of the Supreme Court seat due to their commanding desire to finally do something about abortion. To many conservatives, abortion is the #1 evil in government public policy. Well, he just fully funded Planned Parenthood again. So much for that.

Any hope he was going to get the Republicans off the railroad tracks terminating off the side of a cliff with the marijuana issue? Nope, nope, nope. We have an AG who analogizes marijuana to heroin, and is promising to use federal drug laws to bully state, county, and municipal districts that defy him (and like any good lawman, he has openly flirted with implementing this strategy to harass politically antagonistic districts for entirely unrelated matters, such as sanctuary cities). Expecting an end to big government Republicanism and a return to classic libertarian philosophy? Not here! Not a chance!

He's a populist, alright: a Goldman Sachs populist. Face it, Trumpets: you got conned.

Now go and listen to Kasich speak. This is the tone needed for the future of the Republican party. This is a man who could push policy that has a chance for long-term health in terms of making inroads into minorities, women, and the less affluent. This is the reform the Republican party needs. Fiscal responsibility doesn't entail draconian callousness, and it absolutely shouldn't be married to gross ignorance like climate change denialism or anti-vaccine rhetoric.

Trump is just cocking 2043's hammer. ICE isn't changing the evolution of the country's demographic make-up. A toll will be paid. I'm white, so I would prefer it not be paid in blood.
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kasich is a very reasonable guy on most issues imo.

because of that, hes not good for cable news ratings. moderates dont sell. reasonable doesnt sell.
 
Thunderflash500 said:
His administration? It's just Sessions. Trump has said it's a state issue. And Sessions is most likely not going to get nowhere. As long as Trump doesn't raid people like Obama it doesn't even matter. Until they actually do anything, I don't care about who says what. The states will march on with the rebellion.
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If its just Sessions why was he appointed AG then?
 
Thunderflash500 said:
Most the people saying "Lols drain the swamp" or "lolllss you were conned, he was as easy as a glass to see through lolss" were Obama supporters. The same Obama who passed the ndaa, lied about spying, continued to raid medical marijuana facilities, tried to start a war in Syria, the list just goes on and on. Obama conned his supporters possibly harder than anyone ever has. At least Trump got rid of the TPP. That's worth my vote.
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Obama didnt needed to try to get into Syria, everyone was on board for said war.
 
Thunderflash500 said:
Either side could have presented a normal candidate. They felt that appeasing the nobility was more important. So a bunch of soulless monsters were pushed by our amazing media. Trump was a result of that. A reaction by the ignored masses who were told they are racist demons for being born. The mass still has power and they showed it. Trump is an overreaction and a straight up gamble. But there wasn't any other choice and he at least presented the hope of change. Perhaps this next cycle people will take into account the will of the people a little more, and we will end up having candidates like this. But Trump voters were justified and intelligent for voting him into office. It was the only logical conclusion given the options and what those options meant. A vote for Hillary was a vote for submission.
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What exactly do Trump voters want then?
 
On marijuana: Well that's a nice topic but lets talk about heroin
(cue confused applause)

On the Republican party: I'd like to change... Stuff. JFK.
(cue confused applause)

On health care and high risk pools: Well that's a nice topic but lets address preexisting conditions
(cue confused applause)

I don't particularly dislike Kasich but that was not a very impressive conversation.

He bamboozled dumbo Bill Maher into never getting to finish his own questions, but anyone can do that.
 
because he has a large ammount of morons in the united states they cant tell the difference between quality and corrupt. this included the numbers of idiots in sherdog warroom blowing and masturbating to trump daily
 
Madmick said:


The other part of Maher's show from Friday night. Kasich opens a bit shaky by trying to split hairs on recreational vs. medicinal marijuana, which Maher rightly calls out, but from that point on it is a splendid interview revealing the "reformation" of the Republican party that was genuinely needed, not this "anti-establishment" mongoloid who currently inhabits the office; that Kasich was ever perceived as the "establishment" just reveals how ignorant the Trumpets are.

Trump was supposed to be the guy who radically redefined the Republican party. What a spectacular lie. What a cheap con. From killing internet privacy/neutrality to proposing a one-page tax plan that kills taxes for the 1% to his health care plan that seems determined to kill everybody but Warren Buffett...the man has proven to be nothing but a lie.

He was supposed to be the outsider who would rein in Wall Street, but instead Goldman Sachs alumni and other billionaires hold more positions in his cabinet than in any administration in history. His son-in-law (who is a lifelong Democrat) recently was revealed to secretly hold partnerships with Goldman Sachs and George Soros.

He is rolling back Frank-Dodd which was the backbone of some of the only protections against central banking malfeasance that led to the Great Recession. There's no talk about restoring previous protections or measures like Glass-Steagall, either, or creating new but spiritually similar legislation. There's no talk of restrictions or reform of any kind for the central banks & the largest hedge fund managers that doesn't involve the word "deregulation". This is probably the only real estate in the country where nearly every American agrees that regulations are a good and necessary thing with more needed.

Each new day brings a troubling new headline about Trump businesses abusing the separation of vested financial family interest. Just this week they used an official state department's twitter to pimp Ivanka's book, and pushed reporters out of a room where many of Kushner's business associates were speaking with Chinese elites.

He was going to be the President who stopped ruling by executive decree, and yet he's issued more executive orders in his first 100 days than any other President except for FDR (who was socializing everything to fight off the Great Depression). They're not even well-written, btw, because the man can barely read, and struggles comprehending even the simplest metaphors like George W. Bush's famous remark that there are "no corners in the Oval Office".

He relentlessly harangued Obama for taking too many vacations and wasting taxpayer money, and yet he spent nearly as much of our money carting state retinues to Mar-A-Lago in his first month (heavily padding his own pocket) than Obama spent on travel and vacations in his first year.

He was going to be the President who understood job creation, but he's creating jobs at a slower rate than Obama did last year, and the majority of pay improvement is going to supervisors/management.

He was supposed to be the candidate who would end the globalist cabal by restoring relations with Putin and other governments focused on actually exterminating radical Islam, while simultaneously pulling us out of the quagmire of war that serves only the military industrial complex, and yet a few months later he hammers Assad with 59 Tomahawks while playing cold war games of hysterical escalation with North Korea. No permission asked. We're still installed in the Middle East. He appears determined not only to spend more than ever on the military, but also to be at least equally interventionist as the most neoconservative past administrations, and to be more unilateral as an executive than ever before.

Many classic conservatives supported Trump because of the Supreme Court seat due to their commanding desire to finally do something about abortion. To many conservatives, abortion is the #1 evil in government public policy. Well, he just fully funded Planned Parenthood again. So much for that.

Any hope he was going to get the Republicans off the railroad tracks terminating off the side of a cliff with the marijuana issue? Nope, nope, nope. We have an AG who analogizes marijuana to heroin, and is promising to use federal drug laws to bully state, county, and municipal districts that defy him (and like any good lawman, he has openly flirted with implementing this strategy to harass politically antagonistic districts for entirely unrelated matters, such as sanctuary cities). Expecting an end to big government Republicanism and a return to classic libertarian philosophy? Not here! Not a chance!

He's a populist, alright: a Goldman Sachs populist. Face it, Trumpets: you got conned.

Now go and listen to Kasich speak. This is the tone needed for the future of the Republican party. This is a man who could push policy that has a chance for long-term health in terms of making inroads into minorities, women, and the less affluent. This is the reform the Republican party needs. Fiscal responsibility doesn't entail draconian callousness, and it absolutely shouldn't be married to gross ignorance like climate change denialism or anti-vaccine rhetoric.

Trump is just cocking 2043's hammer. ICE isn't changing the evolution of the country's demographic make-up. A toll will be paid. I'm white, so I would prefer it not be paid in blood.
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Kasich always struck me as the most reasonable of the candidates
 
he's mad religious, i think that about sums it up

so even though he's much more levelheaded than say Santorum, he gets kinda lumped in the same grouping
 
Shove some more food down your throat you disgusting fuck...


My thoughts when JK stayed two weeks past his welcome.
 
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