Why are Star Trek worlds so one dimensional?

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I couldn't believe that was the last episode

So fuckin sexist and horrible lol

What a shit horrible way to end

You will obey my orders! You will obey my orders or-- or--

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

@OverPressure I also like how people boast that the OG series has the first black/white kiss on TV

Like how progressive you guys

Don't watch the episode or take note of how Kirk and Ohoura were under alien control and totally did the kiss against their free will and actively fought against kissing on screen during the scene lol

As well, they shot the scene two ways: one at an angle with their lips not in the shot, for Southern stations, and one with the actual kiss for emotionally mature people

 

[PEB]

Why all the Star Trek hate especially the 60's Star Trek it help launch a generation of TV and movies based of the ideas of being able to travel to alien worlds. Of course it did not hurt that NASA was able to what it did but still Star Trek was an entirely new experience on TV. I think the idea of the Borg and Q raised questions about the greatness and dangers that traveling to other worlds would bring. Star Trek the next generation was at the time the most expensive weekly series to produce some episodes cost over 2 to 3 million dollars. The point is they hardly skimped on costumes and aliens as well as effects at the time where really hard to achieve. CBS took a ton of risks producing the show especially TNG there was questions if it would go past one year with a huge budget and people where not tuning in and the joke about number ones beard became a funny throw away line in later episodes Q:"I liked you better with the beard".

 

[E Undead]

If you read the Star trek lore I dont think the Klingons ever did design spaceships. Some other alien race landed on their planet and the Klingons killed them all and then took their ships and copied their designs and used them to become spacefaring.

This doesn't make much more sense. First how were they able to defeat a race so much more advanced and how were they able to control the spaceships? I simply can't get over the fact that such a dumb race is even a thing in Star Trek lol

 

[whougonnacall]

I also never understood how the klingons were even able to build a space shuttle. They have the mental capability of a 10 year old human. No way those idiots discovered more than basic mathemativs.

In the lore they got a leg up as they were enslaved for years by a more advanced race but eventualy they overthrew them and stole their tech
Plus as ds9 and some of the better tng epidsodes explored they are more than just brain dead savages.


Edit on checking the wiki theres episodes that refference they have science outposts , non warrior universities and galaxywide known scientists so it seems they aint all like worf

 

[whougonnacall]

This doesn't make much more sense. First how were they able to defeat a race so much more advanced and how were they able to control the spaceships? I simply can't get over the fact that such a dumb race is even a thing in Star Trek lol

Id assume the longer they ruled the more the natives learned of their tech plus when the revolution kicked off they have numbers
We can assume they were already on ships and spaceports as manual labour keeping the things running , slowly but surely collectively learning how to keep the ships in working order and the basic principles of how they work

 

[E Undead]

Why all the Star Trek hate especially the 60's Star Trek it help launch a generation of TV and movies based of the ideas of being able to travel to alien worlds. Of course it did not hurt that NASA was able to what it did but still Star Trek was an entirely new experience on TV. I think the idea of the Borg and Q raised questions about the greatness and dangers that traveling to other worlds would bring. Star Trek the next generation was at the time the most expensive weekly series to produce some episodes cost over 2 to 3 million dollars. The point is they hardly skimped on costumes and aliens as well as effects at the time where really hard to achieve. CBS took a ton of risks producing the show especially TNG there was questions if it would go past one year with a huge budget and people where not tuning in and the joke about number ones beard became a funny throw away line in later episodes Q:"I liked you better with the beard".

I wouldn't call it hate, it's simply funny to look back at it from nowadays POV. I was never much into it, but as you said, it made television history and I think everybody respects that. Not sure, but I also think that they helped to establish the whole sci-fi genre with those wormholes, warp-travelling, beaming stuff.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

This doesn't make much more sense. First how were they able to defeat a race so much more advanced and how were they able to control the spaceships? I simply can't get over the fact that such a dumb race is even a thing in Star Trek lol

Perhaps the aliens who landed were benevolent nonagressive species like the Vulcans and the Klingons ambushed them?

Found this from the wiki:

"Hur'q" was a Klingon word meaning "outsider," and was the name given by the Klingons to a species from the Gamma Quadrant which invaded and plundered Qo'noS in the 14th century.

According to the manual for Star Trek: Klingon Academy, the Klingons acquired warp drive from the Hur'q, by capturing and reverse-engineering some of their ships when they resisted their incursions. This explained how the Klingons, despite not being focused on technological research, managed to make the societal jump to interstellar travel.

 

[Clippy]

Perhaps the aliens who landed were benevolent nonagressive species like the Vulcans and the Klingons ambushed them?

Venoc: Look commander - a planet of extreme savages killing each other with multi-bladed weapons

Zenoc: Let's touch down for a closer look

Venoc: Logical

Zenoc: Logical

 

[Philo-Publius]

It pisses me off. Our world is filled with all sorts of things - it's not just one specific thing

For example we have deserts ... among other things.

But we see multiple desert planets like Vulcan

I'm looking at you too Star Wars with your Jaku / Tattoing

Or planets are just one big storm planet

Or an ice planet ... wtf

Or a water planet

Each planet is just ONE aspect of what our planet has

Fucking Wookies and their jungle planet fuck them

This has always pissed me off.

We never see a planet as diverse or unique as ours ... like ever

or even with more than just one attribute

Because the special effects needed to create so much diversity didn't fit Star Trek's budget.

 

[ChickenBrother]

Again, execution.
The central conflict of the story is banal, but they could have done something not so on-the-nose with the makeup.

I watched every episode of Star Trek except Discovery

fuck Discovery

But yeah this was so on the nose it hurt to watch

Deliver messages subtly not yelling it at me through the screen

Even as a kid watching original Star Trek reruns, I thought it was inferior to the original Twilight Zones which pre-dated it by 10 years. Even from a child's perspective, TZ was better at showcasing societal issues and themes. In addition to better writing, TZ was more effective because it left some scenes to the imagination without insulting viewers with bad make-up and budget prosthetics.

 

[ChickenBrother]

Also, this guy just pissed me off:

After they had firmly established that Vulcans look like white people with elf ears who frequent Moe Howard's barber, they come out with this guy? FFS why didn't they just name him Vulcan Mind Mack or something?

 

[JAEGERX]

Also, this guy just pissed me off:

After they had firmly established that Vulcans look like white people with elf ears who frequent Moe Howard's barber, they come out with this guy? FFS why didn't they just name him Lieutenant Commander Shaft or Action Jackson or something?

yeah no, the Star Trek franchise in none of its iterations has ever stated that Vulcans are "white"

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Even as a kid watching original Star Trek reruns, I thought it was inferior to the original Twilight Zones which pre-dated it by 10 years. Even to a child's perspective, it was obvious that Twilight Zone was on another level in showcasing the kinds of societal issues Star Trek attempted. In addition to better writing, Twilight Zone was more effective because it left some scenes to the imagination without insulting viewers with bad make-up and budget prosthetics.

Rod Serling can kiss my balls.

 

[ChickenBrother]

Rod Serling can kiss my balls.

Well he was only 5' 4" so you COULD probably rest your balls on his forehead.

 

[ChickenBrother]

yeah no, the Star Trek franchise in none of its iterations has ever stated that Vulcans are "white"

Of course they never established they were "white" because they were supposed to be an alien race. I believe up to that point, all Vulcans were portrayed by white actors with dark hair and a fairly homogeneous look resembling Nimoy's portrayal. I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong.

While I applaud the attempt to diversify the cast, this instance came across as forced and more than a little cringeworthy IMO.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Well he was only 5' 4" so you COULD probably rest your balls on his forehead.

Really?
I never would have thought he was a manlet! Still, alpha

 

[JAEGERX]

Of course they never established they were "white" because they were supposed to be an alien race. I believe up to that point, all Vulcans were portrayed by white actors with dark hair and a fairly homogeneous look resembling Nimoy's portrayal. I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong.

While I applaud the attempt to diversify the cast, this instance came across as forced and more than a little cringeworthy IMO.

you are wrong and its pointless trying to correct you since you are so deeply and absolutely wrong

 

[TrumpSupporter]

It pisses me off. Our world is filled with all sorts of things - it's not just one specific thing

For example we have deserts ... among other things.

But we see multiple desert planets like Vulcan

I'm looking at you too Star Wars with your Jaku / Tattoing

Or planets are just one big storm planet

Or an ice planet ... wtf

Or a water planet

Each planet is just ONE aspect of what our planet has

Fucking Wookies and their jungle planet fuck them

This has always pissed me off.

We never see a planet as diverse or unique as ours ... like ever

or even with more than just one attribute

clippy is an ewok, proof

 

[Loiosh]

Yeah

Wasn't he literally defeated like

Except that would be like throwing a steak at me.

The critter ate salt.