Why are people so quick do disbelieve Nate Diaz?

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I find this match incredibly interesting in a technichal way, i believe that Nate could most possibly give Conor some trouble for his money.

First, Nate has good boxing, Mcgregor has great hands, even better than nate's, but i believe that his fighting styles could collapse and favor nate in the majority of exchanges.

Conor Mcgregor gives up 5 centimeters in reach to Nate, and Conor has a wide, tall stance. Those factors could only help those super quick popping straight punches that Nate loves to use.

Now for the part that interests me the most, If conor expects to come in with a Counter gameplan, in order to land that left bomb, he might have a realy hard night.

Unlike past conor opponents, Nate will not have to close too much distance in order to hit him, add that to the fact that i have never seen Nate diaz fully commit to the first or second punch in his combinations, he would never lunge in with his head first at anyone. Nate's head movement and slipping is decent, and his head is always out center line when he throws punches.

Plus, Nate likes to throw feints, wich could make that left hand miss a lot more than it is used to.

Conor is certainly more than capable of winning, i preddict he could have a lot of success with his snap kicks and leg kicks. But, he can't rely only on his counter game to win this one.

He might have to bully and stalk a taller and stronger nate diaz, wich does not sound like such an easy task, as most people are describing it to be.

*This thread is considering that Nate Diaz is in at least, a decent shape.
 
Because of one of the following:
* Sheer ignorance of MMA
* McGregor worship
* Dislike of Diaz

Nate certainly has a chance to upset.
 
You gotta understand that the fervent fans of conor are understandably a little shook by this change of plans. If their man lost to RDA,he probably would have been respectful of his opponent. Nate is going to shit in their cereal if he wins.
 
Great technical analysis.

Conor will have a terrible time trying to play the counter striker this time around. He needs to pressure Nate with angles, its the only way to win.

But when's the last time we saw a Diaz get pressured by a striker?
 
Because they are not thinking clearly. All they see is short notice and Nate's not so great record.
 
Unless Nate is in horrible shape, this is a dangerous fight for Conor.

Nate can be predictable and too one dimensional but who knows, perhaps he gets under Conors skin and get him to fight his fight?

When they will meet in the center of that octagon, epicness will occur.
 
Both being Southpaws adds to the mix also considering they are both boxing heavy fighters
 
The Hound said:
Great technical analysis.

Conor will have a terrible time trying to play the counter striker this time around. He needs to pressure Nate with angles, its the only way to win.

But when's the last time we saw a Diaz get pressured by a striker?
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I'm pretty sure he read that in another post. I swear I read the same thing in another thread. If it was TS that said it o well I'm an idiot.
 
Past performance. He didn't look good after a single round with RDA.

Pros: He's got cardio for days and the heart of a lion as well as a full toolbox.

I think McGregor takes it though.
 
I'd have loved this fight if Nate had been in a camp preparing for someone. I don't get how many people don't seem to understand that "in shape" and "in fight shape" are two different things. Nate's probably just been rolling in the gym rather than training hard and that's why the catch-weight is so high. He'll probably still have to cut some to get to 170.

If they had picked the guy who was most prepared, they would have gone with Cerrone since he just finished a camp, fought half a round with extremely little damage taken and said he'd cut to LW for McGregor. Either way that fight would have had little room for excuses. This one has built-in excuses both ways. If Conor wins, half the threads will be about >10-days notice Diaz". Should Conor lose, his legion of nuthuggers will be like "Conor moved up two weight classes to fight Diaz, he'd still win at LW". lol
I honestly think the UFC just looked at Nate as the biggest name available who was the least prepared to pull an upset over their golden child.
 
Personally, can't get the Thompson fight out of my head. If Thompson can lull Nate into a head kick ko, I think Conor can too (or with counter hands)
 
Giovanefugazza said:
I find this match incredibly interesting in a technichal way, i believe that Nate could most possibly give Conor some trouble for his money.

First, Nate has good boxing, Mcgregor has great hands, even better than nate's, but i believe that his fighting styles could collapse and favor nate in the majority of exchanges.

Conor Mcgregor gives up 5 centimeters in reach to Nate, and Conor has a wide, tall stance. Those factors could only help those super quick popping straight punches that Nate loves to use.

Now for the part that interests me the most, If conor expects to come in with a Counter gameplan, in order to land that left bomb, he might have a realy hard night.

Unlike past conor opponents, Nate will not have to close too much distance in order to hit him, add that to the fact that i have never seen Nate diaz fully commit to the first or second punch in his combinations, he would never lunge in with his head first at anyone. Nate's head movement and slipping is decent, and his head is always out center line when he throws punches.

Plus, Nate likes to throw feints, wich could make that left hand miss a lot more than it is used to.

Conor is certainly more than capable of winning, i preddict he could have a lot of success with his snap kicks and leg kicks. But, he can't rely only on his counter game to win this one.

He might have to bully and stalk a taller and stronger nate diaz, wich does not sound like such an easy task, as most people are describing it to be.

*This thread is considering that Nate Diaz is in at least, a decent shape.
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Honestly, I think this is the best fight of all of the suspected fights. If Nate can utilize his BJJ, I think he can win it, but McGregor's unique stand-up gives most fighters problems...and Nate takes punishment...how much can he take though?
 
2 weeks notice and connor fandom being the biggest reasons
 
Because Nate has been beaten many times, by far worse fighters than Conor. and he is taking the fight on very short notice and his fight IQ is easy prey for a guy like Conor.
 
dickcheney said:
Personally, can't get the Thompson fight out of my head. If Thompson can lull Nate into a head kick ko, I think Conor can too (or with counter hands)
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True, and also Thomson was schooling Nate the entire fight until he knocked him out. No takedowns, it was pure standup and he beat the sh*t out of Nate. Must also be noted that Thomson hasn't won a fight in UFC in 3 years apart from that too.
 
If this hits the ground mcgregor gets subbed quickly.
 
I dont think this will be ab easy fight for Conor.
we will see how he deals with not being the bigger longer fighter. Diaz is 4'' taller and has 2'' reach advantage. and he uses it well.
 
I don't, I think it's a dangerous fight for Conor. Diaz is certainly the better submission artist.
 
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