Who would you consider an “Elite Striker” in the UFC?

Being an elite striker somewhere else doesn’t automatically make you elite in mma. so elite strikers in mma don’t need to be able to compete well with elite strikers in another sport. Get it?
That was never the point. It's just about which fighters have striking skill level that can compete vs the best at striking combat sports. I understand the difference between mma striking and pure striking.
 
The problem is when someone say elite striking the first thing comes to mind is boxing. This is MMA, not boxing. The stances are completely different. The way you engae is completely different. There is no comparison.

Kickboxing is probably the closest to really compare and even that you could make arguments about.

Look at a guy like Aaron Pico's boxing and wrestling credentials. He won the national PAL and golden glove in boxing. Found great success in Pankration which combines boxing/wrestling/sambo more or less. Bigger in Russia/European part of the world. He won the Gold cup in that. Has excellent wrestling creds. Bottom line of all this, he has had plenty of hiccups in MMA and in any one of these art forms he would destroyed his opponent he fought in MMA.

Guess what I'm trying to say is MMA striking is its own thing. The list is long of guys in MMA that have had great success in the striking department in MMA and many you could argue as great.
Amateur boxing is different than pro style boxing. They may have also realized early that Pico's chin wasn't going to hang in boxing and had him focus on mma. If he was really able to get to the high/elite level of boxing, he and his team would have picked that instead. That's where the big money is.
 
giphy.gif
Red headed dagi boy, that's a tough mix
 
No one mentioned Edson Barboza yet. Yeah he's been on a decline, but dude is a badass MMA kickboxer. Started training Muay Thai as a child and went 25-3 as a pro.
 
Last edited:
That was never the point. It's just about which fighters have striking skill level that can compete vs the best at striking combat sports. I understand the difference between mma striking and pure striking.
Okay, I feel you. That’s a hard question to ask. Look at Overeem. They way he strikes in mma is far different than how he kickboxes. It may be difficult assessing striking ability vs other strikers because who knows how they would strike without the threat of a takedown. Remember DJ’s mixed rules fights vs the Muay that champ? His mma striking style was vastly different he had a karate mma stance.
 
You forgot one-eyed and not a crotch sniffer. Which makes him that much more badass.
I think he's the first real Lethwei fighter (you know, the bareknuckle sport so violent it isn't regulated outside of Myanmar and includes headbutts into it's techniques) I can recall being signed, guy will bring the violence.
He matches up well with a ton of guys in the division, and throws with horriffic intentions. Will be a fun one to watch.
 
The term gets thrown around quite a bit. Which UFC strikers are on par with strikers from all sports?

IMO there aren’t to many in the UFC, Adesanya, Pereira and Volkanovski immediately come to mind. Throw in the woman if you like.

Reason I ask is striking battles in the UFC can get ugly quick, really bad technique when compared to kickboxers and boxers alike.

Love to see where the level of striking is in 50 years

I'm not entirely clear what is being asked. Who are elite strikers as in who would go to K1 or professional boxing and do well?

Or who are elite strikes as in who uses their striking in MMA most effectively?

Those are two entirely different answers. MMA striking technique can vary widely due to the threat of the takedown. And as far as boxing goes it can also vary widely just based on the fact that your lead leg can get chopped into mince meat.
 
Gokhan saki, K1 UBEReem. Valentina and Johanna are both kickbocking world champs as well. Only Shev is still fighting in the UFC I believe. Not sure if Saki retired, is on hiatus, or got cut.
 
I'm not entirely clear what is being asked. Who are elite strikers as in who would go to K1 or professional boxing and do well?

Or who are elite strikes as in who uses their striking in MMA most effectively?

Those are two entirely different answers. MMA striking technique can vary widely due to the threat of the takedown. And as far as boxing goes it can also vary widely just based on the fact that your lead leg can get chopped into mince meat.
So far, Poatan is the only one to fit as an answer for both.
 
The point of this thread is which mma fighters can actually compete with the best fighters in striking combat sports. There really isn't many and that's why a lot of fighters don't try to cross over into other combat sports. Most just do BKFC after because they'll most likely fight other mma fighters, you don't see fighters trying to switch to boxing or kickboxing/muay thai and try to sign to the major promotions. Fighters know the difference in skill that's why mma fighters for the most part don't even attempt it.
I don't know why any fighter who is in their respective field would try switching to another combat style anyway. You're at a massive disadvantage to begin with. Hence why I've never seen a pro boxer do well in MMA. At least MMA guys try K-1 or boxing.
 
Yeah many are great at mma striking level but not elite at pure striking level. Whittaker vs Izzy just shows how different the striking skill difference was and Pereira vs Izzy shows the striking skill difference gap as well.
Agree

What a pleasure to have that level of striking on display in the UFC. I predict 50 years from now thatll be the norm in MMA. Still in its infancy as far as sport goes and its evolution.
 
Izzy and Pereira yes, Volk is good but not elite level striking. His overall mma game is what wins him his fights, his striking alone would be exploited by higher level strikers. He beat Max but Max has always had issues vs fighters with footwork and leg kicks. Also fighters that can fire back with boxing counters. So Max will always have a hard time vs someone like Volk. He basically beat Max with just leg kicks in one of their fights and the other was just countering and feinting Max as he tried to close distance. Max never had really great enteries. He would just pressure forward throwing volume, he would just try and out volume and eat shots as he throws his shots depending on his chin to make him pull ahead. He's always had issues with fighters with sharp counters. Same thing happened vs Poirer and Yair.
Agree, on the Volk assessment as well.

Max needs to find some versatility in his striking as well, especially in the counter and kicking department. I know Islam posed a TD threat, but it was interesting how often he countered Volk. Volk enjoys fighting guys who throw volume, Islam gave him nothing forcing Colk to lead.
 
City Kickboxing is a legit striking gym, people forget it was a KB gym first and foremost before it transitioned into MMA. I think if Volk focused on KB with Baremans help, he could challenge on the KB world circuit.

Champion? Probably not
But Volk?

If you said nunes I would agree. Volk can't crack an egg
 
Back
Top