Who was more impressive against Mosley?

Pacquiao KD Shane early and had Shane hurt bad, while Shane nearly KD Mayweather early. Another major difference is that Shane resorted to running/hugging after tasting Pac's power, which greatly affected the inactivity in the middle rounds. Shane is almost impossible to finish and that did not make it easier. IMO, Pac was more impressive.
 
Tha_MMAn said:
Pacquiao KD Shane early and had Shane hurt bad, while Shane nearly KD Mayweather early. Another major difference is that Shane resorted to running/hugging after tasting Pac's power, which greatly affected the inactivity in the middle rounds. Shane is almost impossible to finish and that did not make it easier. IMO, Pac was more impressive.
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Pac fights Mayweathers leftovers. Don't try to deny it.
 
I thought mayweather's performance was more impressive, and that if you compare both fights, it's a good argument in favor of mayweather as to who would win their fight. Even considering the right hand he ate in the second round, after that, he seemed far more in control than pac was. Pac won the fight handily no doubt, but he seemed frustrated at points. Mosley made him miss at time, but didn't counter. I'm thinking if it was mayweather there with him, he'd make him miss and then counter.

Now, i'm undecided in the who who would win if mayweather/pac fought, I tend to give mayweather a 51% advantage, but after tonight, i think it went up to maybe 52% hehe
 
Lifer said:
I like how you sugarcoated this. Joshua Clottey relatively gave more punishment to Pac's face than Mosley did and no one's saying that was purely Clottey's gameplan. Just no. No. He got rocked. He folded like he did against Mayweather. Decided to go on defensive mode and didn't throw or risk a meaningful punch.
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So when exactly was Mosley in offensive mode? He fought the exact same way in the 2nd round as he did in the 10th. He went into that fight trying to frustrate Pac and he basically (outside of the knockdown) succeeded. He also probably went in trying to counter... and failed miserably at that part. It doesn't change the fact he was defensive throughout.

I'm not quite sure what the Clottey reference is to... although that could just be that you've explained it badly. Clottey went in with a gameplan that was on a high level similar to Mosley's (but very different in execution), with both trying to negate Pac's offence and build from that to get the win. Both were fairly successful at the defensive part with Clottey using his arms as a solid wall and Mosley using half-steps and upper body movement and both failed pretty comprehensively at getting any offence going. Clottey managed a few uppercuts when Pac was stood right in front of him and even Mosley managed some decent body shots and jabs when Pac did the same against him although because of the nature of their defence Pac was stood directly in front of Clottey more than he was against Mosley.
 
Mosley dropped Mayweather Jr. down early in their fight while Pacquiao dropped Mosley early in their fight.... On the other hand, recovering from a devastating punch and coming back to win 11/12 rounds is pretty impressive by Mayweather.



Tonight, Manny proved to be the best boxer of the three IMO.





What's next for Pac Man? fight vs. Sergio Martinez ?
 
consortium11 said:
So when exactly was Mosley in offensive mode? He fought the exact same way in the 2nd round as he did in the 10th. He went into that fight trying to frustrate Pac and he basically (outside of the knockdown) succeeded. He also probably went in trying to counter... and failed miserably at that part. It doesn't change the fact he was defensive throughout.

I'm not quite sure what the Clottey reference is to... although that could just be that you've explained it badly. Clottey went in with a gameplan that was on a high level similar to Mosley's (but very different in execution), with both trying to negate Pac's offence and build from that to get the win. Both were fairly successful at the defensive part with Clottey using his arms as a solid wall and Mosley using half-steps and upper body movement and both failed pretty comprehensively at getting any offence going. Clottey managed a few uppercuts when Pac was stood right in front of him and even Mosley managed some decent body shots and jabs when Pac did the same against him although because of the nature of their defence Pac was stood directly in front of Clottey more than he was against Mosley.
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I just don't understand how you can say Mosley's gameplan was to try frustrate Pac which he failed in doing so as well. When was the last time Mosley was in defensive mode? Face it. His gameplan was to counter. He found out he couldn't. He bitched out. He bitched out more than he did against Mayweather. Pac had a better performance against him than Mayweather did.
 
KushMMA said:
Tonight, Manny proved to be the best boxer of the three IMO.
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You can be of the opinion that he is the best boxer of the three and I can respect that, but to say that he proved it tonight is quite the exageration
 
spike85 said:
Pac fights Mayweathers leftovers. Don't try to deny it.
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When did Mayweather fight Cotto, Clottey and Margarito? (Pacquiao's last three opponents before Mosley.)

Also didn't Mayweather fight Marquez? And didn't Mayweather fight Marquez at a much higher weight than Marquez was used too and even then (Mayweather) couldn't make weight?

I guess Floyd fights Pac leftovers as well then. :rolleyes:

P.S. Pac beat Hatton in a far more spectacular fashion than Mayweather did. Also he did it in Hatton's best weight class, while Floyd had an advantage in the weight class they fought in.
 
In both fights Mosley was dominated, when he fought Mayweather he rocked him but later on Mayweather adapted and won the rest of the rounds. Pacquiao dropped Mosley, then had him retreating for the rest of the fight. Pacquiao took hardly any damage, he dropped Mosley and won the rest of the rounds. I'd say Pacquiao's performance was more impressive.
 
Well imo its debatable who was more impressive, but this fight did not prove that Pac is better than Floyd and vice versa.
 
Mayweather totally put on a boxing clinic with Shane . Shane took a hiding in the Floyd fight. Apart from Manny dropping Mosley , Mosley never looked hurt in that fight.

In the Manny fight against Mosley all we saw was Manny chasing Mosley down but not really hurting Mosley . Watch the Mosley Mayweather fight it was an absolute shutout.

Mayweather and Manny need to fight . Floyd will outbox Manny . I dont see Manny landing on Floyd enough to hurt him .
 
clackers said:
Mayweather totally put on a boxing clinic with Shane . Shane took a hiding in the Floyd fight. Apart from Manny dropping Mosley , Mosley never looked hurt in that fight.

In the Manny fight against Mosley all we saw was Manny chasing Mosley down but not really hurting Mosley . Watch the Mosley Mayweather fight it was an absolute shutout.

Mayweather and Manny need to fight . Floyd will outbox Manny . I dont see Manny landing on Floyd enough to hurt him .
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Not hurting him? He was wobbled numerous times.. and stated that he was running because he had never been hit like Pac hit.
 
clackers said:
Mayweather totally put on a boxing clinic with Shane . Shane took a hiding in the Floyd fight. Apart from Manny dropping Mosley , Mosley never looked hurt in that fight.

In the Manny fight against Mosley all we saw was Manny chasing Mosley down but not really hurting Mosley . Watch the Mosley Mayweather fight it was an absolute shutout.

Mayweather and Manny need to fight . Floyd will outbox Manny . I dont see Manny landing on Floyd enough to hurt him .
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What fight were you watching? Mosley was hanging on for dear life in the last rounds. It was quite obvious that he did not like the taste of Manny's power.
 
clackers said:
Mayweather totally put on a boxing clinic with Shane . Shane took a hiding in the Floyd fight. Apart from Manny dropping Mosley , Mosley never looked hurt in that fight.

In the Manny fight against Mosley all we saw was Manny chasing Mosley down but not really hurting Mosley . Watch the Mosley Mayweather fight it was an absolute shutout.

Mayweather and Manny need to fight . Floyd will outbox Manny . I dont see Manny landing on Floyd enough to hurt him .
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Mosley rocked Mayweather, but could hardly hit Pacquiao clean. Pacquiao dropped Mosley and had him on the backfoot for most of the fight, everyone who has fought Pacquiao has been hurt Mayweather will be no different if they fight.
 
Manny is not doing anything for his legacy by beating up the guys that Floyd has just beat up . But then againits all for the $$ .

Mayweather looked better in his fight against Masley apart from the 2nd Round .

This was not Pacs best performance and Mosley is not one of the best at the moment .

I think Floyd gives Manny more problems as he will come to outbox him and fight him as well.

All im saying is that its just paydays for Manny now.
 
clackers said:
Manny is not doing anything for his legacy by beating up the guys that Floyd has just beat up . But then againits all for the $$ .

Mayweather looked better in his fight against Masley apart from the 2nd Round .

This was not Pacs best performance and Mosley is not one of the best at the moment .

I think Floyd gives Manny more problems as he will come to outbox him and fight him as well.

All im saying is that its just paydays for Manny now.
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Who should Pacquiao fight when Mayweather doesn't fight him?
 
clackers said:
Manny is not doing anything for his legacy by beating up the guys that Floyd has just beat up . But then againits all for the $$ .

Mayweather looked better in his fight against Masley apart from the 2nd Round .

This was not Pacs best performance and Mosley is not one of the best at the moment .

I think Floyd gives Manny more problems as he will come to outbox him and fight him as well.

All im saying is that its just paydays for Manny now.
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Oh, and Money Mayweather doesn't fight for a payday?

You Mayweather fans crack me up with your ridiculous/hypocritical remarks. :icon_lol:
 
Yeah you have a point .

Not sure but fighting Marquez in a couple of months is not something I want to see.

Well they need to fight this year it will be huge .
 
Tha_MMAn said:
Oh, and Money Mayweather doesn't fight for a payday?

You Mayweather fans crack me up with your ridiculous/hypocritical remarks. :icon_lol:
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Some Mayweather fans are so annoying a lot of them can't be reasonable I'm not talking about anyone in this thread just from what I've seen.
 
CCH said:
Shane ran from Pac. He didn't from Floyd, and he hurt Floyd. Manny looked better. But that's no real bearing on how a fight would go between the two.
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this. Mosley had nothing for Pacquiao and was forced to run in order to survive. that was not the case against Mayweather.
 
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