Who was more impressive against Mosley?

[Beast in a Cage***]

Pacquaio or Mayweather?

I'll be completely honest and admit that I'm not a hardcore boxing fan or even a fan by most standards.

I drop in for some super-fights so it should be understood why I'm only interested in this question.

 

[Jo Thaibox]

......

Seriously?

 

[GTLDSL]

Shane took a worse beating in the mayweather fight, but you have to keep in mind that FLoyd forced Shane to take a drug test each and every week leading up to the event.

 

[BoxingMMA]

joke thread I'm sure as Shane almost knocked Mayweather out if it wasn't for some embarrassing holding in round 2.

Also, Mayweather never knocked or even warbled Mosley

 

[xyster]

mosley wasnt badly hurt because he is just running away all the time. he is really scared of pacquiao. while on the mayweather fight he is the one pressing the fight during the earler rounds and he is getting countered all the time. if mosley was more aggressive and pressing the fight more he will get KO'ed instantly by pacquiao and i think it could be more damaging compared to mayweather.

 

[consortium11]

It's hard to say.

Despite the "knockdown" Mosley never hurt Pac in the way he hurt Mayweather in the second and both won lopsided decisions over Sugar. That said outside of the third round and a few isolated flurries Pacman never really punished Mosley (while doing enough to win rounds) while Mayweather basically beat Mosley like a redheaded step child for every other second of their bout.

Mayweather probably looked better (despite being rocked) but that's as much down to the nature of the respective fights and Mosley's mentality. As for who was actually more impressive... six for one, half a dozen for the other. Do you favour Mayweather being rocked but also putting a real beating on Shane for the rest of the fight or do you favour Pac not being rocked, knocking Shane down but otherwise doing little.

 

[mkoua]

Mosley has Mayweather pretty badly hurt in the first two rounds; he kept coming forward later and taking damage.
Pac was never hurt, never in trouble, and had Shane scared to throw anything. The only round I saw as even possibly going to Shane was the first, and the knockdown was pure bullshit.

 

[CCH]

Shane ran from Pac. He didn't from Floyd, and he hurt Floyd. Manny looked better. But that's no real bearing on how a fight would go between the two.

 

[The Taxman]

I'd say Floyd because Shane almost had him finished and Floyd completely changed his gameplan in the middle of a round and though he didn't knock Shane down he beat him worse then Pac did tonight.

 

[NuTzOnSwOll]

It's hard to say.

Despite the "knockdown" Mosley never hurt Pac in the way he hurt Mayweather in the second and both won lopsided decisions over Sugar. That said outside of the third round and a few isolated flurries Pacman never really punished Mosley (while doing enough to win rounds) while Mayweather basically beat Mosley like a redheaded step child for every other second of their bout.

Mayweather probably looked better (despite being rocked) but that's as much down to the nature of the respective fights and Mosley's mentality. As for who was actually more impressive... six for one, half a dozen for the other. Do you favour Mayweather being rocked but also putting a real beating on Shane for the rest of the fight or do you favour Pac not being rocked, knocking Shane down but otherwise doing little.

did you not see Shane's face ?

plus PBF made Shane look silly by making him miss and countering (but not hurting him).
Pacquiao dropped Shane and had him running for 11 rounds. I have never ever seen Shane do that.
He put the fear of God in him.

Of course , shane's woman is way hotter so thats a consolation.
:icon_chee

 

[BoxingMMA]

The reason mayweather lookd good was because Mosley gave him chances by coming forward, If mosley does that against pac he goes to sleep. Mosley seemed to have that intention though and he got knocked down pretty bad and decided against it for the rest of the fight. Pacquiao scared Mosley big time while Mayweather just outboxed him.

 

[petr714**]

Mosley was outclassed by mayweather and couldn't keep up with his speed and superb defense (except for that lucky punch that wobbled mw)..mosley kept up with pac man pretty well
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[Cracky]

Mosley was outclassed by mayweather and couldn't keep up with his speed and superb defense (except for that lucky punch that wobbled mw)..mosley kept up with pac man pretty well
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He did?.. is that why he threw about 2x less punches vs. Pac than he did vs. May?

 

[petr714**]

He threw more against may but hit al air as well
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[heavyarms21]

After Shane got Knocked down any signs that Shane Would be aggressive was killed Mosley even candidly admit to it after the fight that after he got knocked down he made a concentrated effort to not take risks because he knew how dangerous it would be for him if he did clearly giving Manny's power its just due

 

[Cracky]

It's hard to say.

Despite the "knockdown" Mosley never hurt Pac in the way he hurt Mayweather in the second and both won lopsided decisions over Sugar. That said outside of the third round and a few isolated flurries Pacman never really punished Mosley (while doing enough to win rounds) while Mayweather basically beat Mosley like a redheaded step child for every other second of their bout.

Mayweather probably looked better (despite being rocked) but that's as much down to the nature of the respective fights and Mosley's mentality. As for who was actually more impressive... six for one, half a dozen for the other. Do you favour Mayweather being rocked but also putting a real beating on Shane for the rest of the fight or do you favour Pac not being rocked, knocking Shane down but otherwise doing little.

I disagree with this... look at Mosley's face after both fights.. Mosley absolutely ran from Pac.. he was scared... He was in survival mode... considering that fact, and considering the result(Pac had fewer opportunities than May), I think Pac displayed at least ab equal level of asswhoopinary... and likely more considering that he shook shane to the core on multiple occasions and dropped him.

 

[Cracky]

He threw more against may but hit al air as well
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Doesn't matter.. he still had the courage to at least try vs. May.. and he did not posses that level of courage vs. Pac.....

Why? Because Pac took it out of him.

Don't get me wrong.. May was brilliant vs. Shane.. but to try and say Mosley was keeping up with Pac in any way is just not being honest.. and if you honestly compare the two fights using punchstats, it's clear that Mosley was out of contention vs. pac long before he was out of contention vs. Mayweather

 

[consortium11]

did you not see Shane's face ?

Yes it was marked up... but it wasn't like it was the distorted mess that other Pac foes have been. Manny landed well in the third... and outside of that in spurts... and often with whole rounds where he landed little clean.

plus PBF made Shane look silly by making him miss and countering (but not hurting him).

PBF hurt Shane... not as dramatically as Pac with his knockdown but he still hurt him with the sharp counters... at no stage in this fight did I hear Naz threatening to stop the fight, which is something he did do during the Mayweather bout.

Pacquiao dropped Shane and had him running for 11 rounds. I have never ever seen Shane do that.
He put the fear of God in him.

Shane's tactics didn't visibly change much through the fight. He fought the 1st and 2nd round like he fought the 7th like he fought the 12th. It was clearly his tactic to frustrate Pac and rob him of his offence... and to a large extent he did. What he couldn't do was use that to his advantage.

The reason mayweather lookd good was because Mosley gave him chances by coming forward, If mosley does that against pac he goes to sleep. Mosley seemed to have that intention though and he got knocked down pretty bad and decided against it for the rest of the fight. Pacquiao scared Mosley big time while Mayweather just outboxed him.

Which seems to indicate that Pac wasn't able to really adapt to Mosley's defensive tactics... and while winning easily... never really managed to get into his flow. Mosley never tried to come forward, before or after the knockdown, instead relying on shuffling, half steps and upper body movement... which was pretty successful in reducing Pac's offence.

As I said, neither fighter looked bad... but neither fighter was also perfect. Mayweather was rocked but laid on the punishmnet... Pac was never hurt and scored a knockdown but otherwise was basically disarmed. That's partly down to Mosley's gameplan; he came in against Mayweather looking to throw and thus was more likely to land... and more likely to get hit... while he came in against Pac looking to spoil (even if not in the jab and grab sense) and thus didn't get caught as much or as cleanly (despite the knockdown) but also didn't land anything. Six for one, half a dozen for the other.

 

[spike85]

Mayweather did more damage to Mosley, but got hit with 1 punch.

Whats up with Pac fighting Mayweathers leftovers?

 

[Lifer]

As I said, neither fighter looked bad... but neither fighter was also perfect. Mayweather was rocked but laid on the punishmnet... Pac was never hurt and scored a knockdown but otherwise was basically disarmed. That's partly down to Mosley's gameplan; he came in against Mayweather looking to throw and thus was more likely to land... and more likely to get hit... while he came in against Pac looking to spoil (even if not in the jab and grab sense) and thus didn't get caught as much or as cleanly (despite the knockdown) but also didn't land anything. Six for one, half a dozen for the other.

I like how you sugarcoated this. Joshua Clottey relatively gave more punishment to Pac's face than Mosley did and no one's saying that was purely Clottey's gameplan. Just no. No. He got rocked. He folded like he did against Mayweather. Decided to go on defensive mode and didn't throw or risk a meaningful punch.