Who shot John F. Kennedy?

[greygoose]

The same dude who shot JR, son

 

[soggyfist]

The Cigarette Smoking Man obviously.

According to William Cooper is was the driver.

 

[Halifax]

Only a dude in the Army would think a sub 100 yard shot with a scoped rifle from a rested position on a known route would be a "hard shot". It's not that "hard" to replicate the shot. Most people just don't actually bother trying. Jesse Ventura and his stupid ass pulled it off on his second attempt without ever touching the weapon before. Oswald would likely have been more proficient with his own weapon than someone who's never touched it before. Even the Marines shitty pizza box marksmen qualify with irons 400 yards beyond that shot. Anyone who thinks someone other than LHO was the shooter is just ignoring basic ballistics and common sense.

Navy SEALs are blasting dudes off the back of ships in the ocean and at 1000+ yards in combat. But you think a dude can't let off a bunch of shots from under 100 yards and miss a few hit a few?

That said, I would buy into the idea that he was part of a larger conspiracy and Ruby silenced him. It wouldn't be too surprising if he was the hired gun, but when he was arrested for shooting a police officer after the assassination that changed their plans. Maybe they planned on killing him later or something. That makes more sense than gunmen hiding in bushes or secret service accidents.

it was well known to the FBI that the Kennedy's were hated by the Mob and transcripts and evidence was long ago released that had some of Hoover's notes from the "black bag" operations he did. Hoover's black bag illegal phone tapping was quite normal back then. Sam Giancana, Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello's all wanted Kennedy gone and said as much in phone calls that were wiretapped. the black bag operations were illegal and inadmissible and hoover hated organized crime investigations AND hated the kennedy brothers, so he destroyed them all before the Warren commission. Fucking Trafficante's own Lawyer Frank Ragano after all those bosses were dead and he was dying of cancer told folks he could say now since his lawyer client privilege is over since they are all dead and that Hoffa used him as a go between to request Kennedy's elimination from trafficante and Marcello.

Oswald's uncle was a bookie under the umbrella of mob boss Carlos Marcello.

Jack Ruby was a KNOWN mafia gofer working for Carlos Marcello and Joseph Campisi the Dallas mob leader. Its on record that he made calls to the following folks the 2 weeks before Kennedy was shot. Irwin Weiner, a Chicago Bail Bondsman who was a house rep for the Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana, he then called Nofio Pecora, a Capo in the mafia under Carlos Marcello, and Robert Baker, a known henchman to Teamster boss Jimmy Hoffa who got out of prison a few months prior.

Those calls were investigated and the explanations were horseshit LOL

"Yes, this Dallas nightclub owner called me, a Chicago bail bondsman for help with his union problems! I don't know him. Why was it a half hour call? I can't remember. He was funny so we talked a bit. im not that busy"
or
"Yeah im a high ranking Capo consigliere in the new orleans crime family , but i was taking calls for my New orleans nightclub friend because he wanted to borrow a hot stripper from the new Orleans bar to have her dance in Dallas! I don't know the guy. it wasn't me who called him back collect for 21 minutes on my phone line, it was my friend talking about da strippa"
or
"I just got out of jail in DETROIT, but this guy I don't know from Dallas called for me. I wasn't home and my wife took the call. So i called this guy back collect and talked with him for 45 minutes about how to fuck up the union giving his bar trouble"

I mean, it could all be cosmic coincidence. But he happened to be on the horn with intermediaries to the 3 big shots who wanted Kennedy dead most. And then this Mafia gofer just decided to be a good Samaritan and kill Oswald in flash decision upon coming across him surrounded by an army of cops.....lol

Oh and he ate at Joseph Campisi(Dallas Mob Boss) restaurant the night before Kennedy was killed. and Joseph Campisi visited him in prison 3 times after he shot Oswald and then claimed to not know him during the investigations. LOL

 

[Crawler89]

Theres a documentary that suggests it was an accident by the secret service after the first shot was fired which missed or something.
I cant recall or say it completely but it was very compelling.

So im on the side of it was either Lee Harvey or it was that secret service accident.

The Last Podcast On The Left did a big four parter on it too and two of the hosts came to the conclusion that the secret service fuck up was the most compelling and it was a cover up to not indite the secret service for killing the damn president

A case of Lee attempted - but in the brief seconds after his first shot, the secret service fuckd up and accidently shot him

One of those insanely improbable but possible scenarios

 

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

That's less than 100 yards my man. Any decent shooter could have done that and hit 2 out of 3 shots. And Oswald was far better than an average shooter
"During his Marine Corps service in December 1956, Oswald scored a rating of sharpshooter (twice achieving 48 and 49 out of 50 shots during rapid fire at a stationary target 200 yards [183 m] away using a standard issue M1 Garand semi-automatic rifle )" - TheNinja's Note: standard issue M1 would have been iron sights.....no scope.

How hard is it to shoot 100 yard with a scoped rifle? Plus the 6.5mm bullet I believe would have a fairly flat trajectory given it's smallish diameter and large amount of powder. That is a 2300 fps round.

You can't hit 2 out of 3 shots into a human from a distance that is less than a football field with this rifle?

I dunno. I managed to shoot the dead center of a car windshield in Iraq, dead where I aimed, at 200 yards, standing. But it was also with an M16 and a scope too. Still, 100 yards is pretty easy with a rifle. I think the struggle of firing 3 shots with that shitty rifle is more convincing than being able to hit the target,

 

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

It was a God damn time-traveler I tell ya

 

[emefer]

Interesting listen

 

[zapataxiv]

Snoop did it

 

[bjjHERRERA]

the mafia was behind it

 

[DoomPatrol]

As I've said before too....it's tough to shoot that fast but not impossible for someone who trained on it. Jesse had shitty shitty form and still did it in 8.6 seconds or something. Oswald did it in ~6 seconds which isn't crazy if he practiced it.
And a 4x scope at less than 100 yards and he only hit 2 out of 3 shots. Again...tough but not impossible to say the least especially if he's rested on sandbags or some prop for helping to shoot. look at the gif I posted earlier.

Now if you want to get into who was behind it and why it was done. I 100% believe that Oswald wasn't some lone weirdo. There was much more behind it than just a random guy shooting the president.

It's definitely highly likely that there were others involved in that conspiracy, but I don't leave out the lone gunman theory entirely. I do believe it's possible for a single person to do something so wild that they accomplish something we can't imagine being done

it was well known to the FBI that the Kennedy's were hated by the Mob and transcripts and evidence was long ago released that had some of Hoover's notes from the "black bag" operations he did. Hoover's black bag illegal phone tapping was quite normal back then. Sam Giancana, Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello's all wanted Kennedy gone and said as much in phone calls that were wiretapped. the black bag operations were illegal and inadmissible and hoover hated organized crime investigations AND hated the kennedy brothers, so he destroyed them all before the Warren commission. Fucking Trafficante's own Lawyer Frank Ragano after all those bosses were dead and he was dying of cancer told folks he could say now since his lawyer client privilege is over since they are all dead and that Hoffa used him as a go between to request Kennedy's elimination from trafficante and Marcello.

Oswald's uncle was a bookie under the umbrella of mob boss Carlos Marcello.

Jack Ruby was a KNOWN mafia gofer working for Carlos Marcello and Joseph Campisi the Dallas mob leader. Its on record that he made calls to the following folks the 2 weeks before Kennedy was shot. Irwin Weiner, a Chicago Bail Bondsman who was a house rep for the Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana, he then called Nofio Pecora, a Capo in the mafia under Carlos Marcello, and Robert Baker, a known henchman to Teamster boss Jimmy Hoffa who got out of prison a few months prior.

Those calls were investigated and the explanations were horseshit LOL

"Yes, this Dallas nightclub owner called me, a Chicago bail bondsman for help with his union problems! I don't know him. Why was it a half hour call? I can't remember. He was funny so we talked a bit. im not that busy"
or
"Yeah im a high ranking Capo consigliere in the new orleans crime family , but i was taking calls for my New orleans nightclub friend because he wanted to borrow a hot stripper from the new Orleans bar to have her dance in Dallas! I don't know the guy. it wasn't me who called him back collect for 21 minutes on my phone line, it was my friend talking about da strippa"
or
"I just got out of jail in DETROIT, but this guy I don't know from Dallas called for me. I wasn't home and my wife took the call. So i called this guy back collect and talked with him for 45 minutes about how to fuck up the union giving his bar trouble"

I mean, it could all be cosmic coincidence. But he happened to be on the horn with intermediaries to the 3 big shots who wanted Kennedy dead most. And then this Mafia gofer just decided to be a good Samaritan and kill Oswald in flash decision upon coming across him surrounded by an army of cops.....lol

Oh and he ate at Joseph Campisi(Dallas Mob Boss) restaurant the night before Kennedy was killed. and Joseph Campisi visited him in prison 3 times after he shot Oswald and then claimed to not know him during the investigations. LOL

Yeah that makes a lot of sense to me. Weird things have definitely happened before I guess, but I could easily see why the mob wanted him gone. I always think about the cosmic coincidence of Gavrilo Princip happening upon Ferdinand after the failed attack because he wanted a sandwich or something. What are the odds of surviving an assassination attempt, only to get stuck on the street later in the afternoon right next to one of the armed assassins?

 

[Big Dawg]

GSP

 

[IndyCovaHart]

it was George soros bra

 

[cheesus]

I don't believe the official story, two shooters seems more plausible but I also don't believe Oswald was just a patsy. The magic bullet theory seems pretty lazy but that shot is definitely achievable.

 

[650lb Sumo]

It was a God damn time-traveler I tell ya

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[Halifax]

It's definitely highly likely that there were others involved in that conspiracy, but I don't leave out the lone gunman theory entirely. I do believe it's possible for a single person to do something so wild that they accomplish something we can't imagine being done



Yeah that makes a lot of sense to me. Weird things have definitely happened before I guess, but I could easily see why the mob wanted him gone. I always think about the cosmic coincidence of Gavrilo Princip happening upon Ferdinand after the failed attack because he wanted a sandwich or something. What are the odds of surviving an assassination attempt, only to get stuck on the street later in the afternoon right next to one of the armed assassins?

That's the thing, I think people are expecting or hoping someday they will get some smoking gun evidence conclusively proving who killed JFK and its unlikely to ever happen.

These mafia connections and all the evidence that had come out paint enough of a circumstantial evidence picture for me to know the mob had a hand in it. Did others help or turn a blind eye? CIA? FBI? its possible. But the mob stuff is just too much to ignore. I doubt the Dallas Family big shot went to visit Ruby in jail to give him a steak and blowjob. Killing Bobby Kennedy, who was the true enemy of the mob would be too direct and would bring down unprecedented law enforcement crackdowns and they would know instantly who did it. Killing his brother the president who is a worldwide target? Would achieve their goals and defang Bobby. Hoover was always able to operate independent because of his ability to maneuver over the Attorney General's head and ignore them. That was impossible with the Attorney general being clean as a whistle, the presidents brother, and for the first time, Hoover was being forced into shit he didn't want the FBI anywhere near. Lyndon Johnson and Bobby hated each other so its no surprise Bobby's presidential support in attacking Organized crime waned badly once his brother was gone and hoover no longer had to play ball

 

[San Marino]

Only a dude in the Army would think a sub 100 yard shot with a scoped rifle from a rested position on a known route would be a "hard shot".

That, if you have a good rifle that is 'zeroed' and your scope is fitted properly. Not the case with the Oswald rifle. Plus, Oswald was shooting at a moving target.

"The rifle couldn't be perfectly sighted using the scope without installing two metal shims (small metal plates), which were not present when the rifle arrived for testing, and were never found."

Did you ever shoot someone in the head from behind and their head moved backwards? The physics of that is impossible.

"Nelson Delgado, a Marine in the same unit as Oswald, used to laugh at Oswald's shooting prowess and testified that Oswald often got 'Maggie's drawers;' meaning a red flag that is waved from the rifle pits to indicate a complete miss of the target during qualification firing. He also said that Oswald did not seem to care if he missed or not."

I believe Oswald was part of a 3 men shooting team. Kennedy's head shot was made from the Grassy Knoll behind the wood fence (from the front). A lot of 'holes' in the Warren Commission report. A lot of 'holes' in Kennedy's autopsy.

 

[San Marino]

The car dealership fella who was in the storm drain.

Bingo!
Not too many people know about that option. Why don't you tell them the whole story.

 

[oscerthegrouch]

The same dude who shot JR, son

wasn't it a chic that shot him ?

 

[San Marino]

You can't hit 2 out of 3 shots into a human from a distance that is less than a football field with this rifle?

A moving target, not stationary.

 

[San Marino]

Jesse Ventura and his stupid ass pulled it off on his second attempt without ever touching the weapon before.

Refer to post #17 video. Even Ventura said it was impossible. Not in the time Oswald claimed to have done.