Who is right?

Honestly it doesn't take that long to do some basic house cleaning on your own. Cooking can be enjoyable too. The transaction probably isn't even worth it if you aren't getting sex out of it.

Sounds like she's using you and playing you, and if her friends are bragging about using lonely men, what's that saying birds of a feather flock together.
 
"Our relationship is strong in the team but the romance has all but died"

It does not sound like you guys are strong in the team. If you guys have a transactional relationship, then the money part needs to be clear and if she isnt holding her end up, then make her bounce. To be honest, sounds like she knew the relationship was over and figured she would save some cash on her way out and figured she test how long you would let her get away with it.

I dated a girl that wanted me to give a lot of financial support to her and her kid. I had just recently started making decent money at the time but I had some debt to pay off and I didnt see myself as a meal ticket for her and her kid. She ended it when she realized I wasnt the romantic sweep her off her feet and take care of all her bills and worries type.
 
If the romance is dead and you don't see her being your wife, then why are you with her? There is nothing in this relationship for you but pain. Just end it and kick her out.
 
Obviously you know your situation better than I do, but it sounds like both of you would be better off breaking it off amicably and looking for new partners. It'll be hard though deciding who gets custody of the water buffalo etc.
 
Thanks all for the replies. I'll answer a few points that stick out.

I do not wish to just throw her out on the street. She isn't being outright or malicious towards me, but our relationship has been cold for some time and I view it as something that has long overstaying its welcome. With that said, I do still love her, I also believe that she loves me in her own way, I still enjoy her company when we don't argue, we've just drifted apart, we are lacking in certain areas and we don't respect each-others wishes.

I've told her this before, but if she chooses to leave, I won't stop her. I can survive on my own financially. I'd just like everything to be amicable and I'd like her to be in a good position, though I don't know how good she can get that position based on the fact that certain things are working against her. If she wants to go back to Thailand for a cheaper and better life closer to her family, then I'll help her. No idea what she can do if she stays in the UK though. She chose to stay in the same low paying job that we used to work together in, so even getting in a studio flat will be a struggle for her, and the less said about bedsits, the better. On the flipside, she hasn't spoken to her family in Thailand for years, and her only friends are over here in the UK. She'll be isolated over there.

I've seen the concept of the relationship being transactional being mentioned in this thread, but it hasn't been that way, at least until she gave me the ultimatum yesterday. She has always paid her share when we were renting together and I did agree to her offer when moving into my home, but I was just taken aback when she said that she would pull back on me still. She's mentioned her friends a lot over the last year or so, who all seem to have transactional relationships, with them bragging about how they don't pay for their own things and how one of them wouldn't stay with an old man because he had cancer. Though she would mention the old man and say that her friend was lucky to be looked after, she also seemed to look down on them for being who they are and admires her own work ethic, yet I also think that the attitude of her friends is starting to rub off on her. She struggles with her job whilst they seem to live lazy, carefree lives having coffee breaks together. I've quickly lost respect for these women. It may be ungentlemanly of me, but I only see women not standing on their own two feet financially to be fine when she is raising children. We don't have children. We probably never will. We don't even have pets, so as far as I'm concerned, she stands by the agreement that she penned before we moved in. I shouldn't have to bear the brunt just because she hasn't gone into work and even then, her sob story about having not enough money is bollocks. She should know better. She asked me to set up her work login, so I can see her payslips. She also asked me to set up her online banking.

I have no idea about the water buffalo story.

Who won Eurovision? Was it good?
 
Unfortunately it's not gonna get better dude. Easy for us to say not being in it but all the signs are there. No sex, lack of respect, comparisons to dumb friends and their behavior. And the more you concede, the more she's gonna push to see what she can get away with next.

You made an agreement and now she's doing the mental dance to justify not holding up her end of the bargain. End this shit sooner rather than later because it's only gonna get worse. Might wanna consult with a lawyer without her knowing too to make sure there's no common law bullshit or its equivalent where you live so u can't be screwed financially because the relationship didn't work out.
 
My partner and I had a blazing row about money, and I'm looking for an outside opinion.

We have been together for eleven years, living in bedsits for the first several months and then renting studio flats for the last ten. We always went halves during that time, and we worked together, so we were paid the same, basic living wage. During that time, I invested in myself a bit and got a better job, and five years into that, I invested in myself again and got myself a better job, the job that I've been doing for the past two years. She received a payrise soon after leaving, but her wage is still rather low. I now earn double what she earns a year, though she catches that up a bit in a side hussle.

Our relationship is strong in the team but the romance has all but died.
Stopped reading right there, your relationship is over, move on.
 
Thanks all for the replies. I'll answer a few points that stick out.

I do not wish to just throw her out on the street. She isn't being outright or malicious towards me, but our relationship has been cold for some time and I view it as something that has long overstaying its welcome. With that said, I do still love her, I also believe that she loves me in her own way, I still enjoy her company when we don't argue, we've just drifted apart, we are lacking in certain areas and we don't respect each-others wishes.

I've told her this before, but if she chooses to leave, I won't stop her. I can survive on my own financially. I'd just like everything to be amicable and I'd like her to be in a good position, though I don't know how good she can get that position based on the fact that certain things are working against her. If she wants to go back to Thailand for a cheaper and better life closer to her family, then I'll help her. No idea what she can do if she stays in the UK though. She chose to stay in the same low paying job that we used to work together in, so even getting in a studio flat will be a struggle for her, and the less said about bedsits, the better. On the flipside, she hasn't spoken to her family in Thailand for years, and her only friends are over here in the UK. She'll be isolated over there.

I've seen the concept of the relationship being transactional being mentioned in this thread, but it hasn't been that way, at least until she gave me the ultimatum yesterday. She has always paid her share when we were renting together and I did agree to her offer when moving into my home, but I was just taken aback when she said that she would pull back on me still. She's mentioned her friends a lot over the last year or so, who all seem to have transactional relationships, with them bragging about how they don't pay for their own things and how one of them wouldn't stay with an old man because he had cancer. Though she would mention the old man and say that her friend was lucky to be looked after, she also seemed to look down on them for being who they are and admires her own work ethic, yet I also think that the attitude of her friends is starting to rub off on her. She struggles with her job whilst they seem to live lazy, carefree lives having coffee breaks together. I've quickly lost respect for these women. It may be ungentlemanly of me, but I only see women not standing on their own two feet financially to be fine when she is raising children. We don't have children. We probably never will. We don't even have pets, so as far as I'm concerned, she stands by the agreement that she penned before we moved in. I shouldn't have to bear the brunt just because she hasn't gone into work and even then, her sob story about having not enough money is bollocks. She should know better. She asked me to set up her work login, so I can see her payslips. She also asked me to set up her online banking.

I have no idea about the water buffalo story.

Who won Eurovision? Was it good?
Sounds like it’s run its course, brother.
Nobody is really wrong here. It happens. Though the more time you “invest” in this situation, you lose, which could be used to grow whatever area of your life you wish. Don’t waste your most precious asset anymore than you the to.

Sounds like you’re not married or have kids. That makes it much easier, though of course it is not truly easy. I’m sorry. These situations suck the big one. Went through a similar situation. Just one person wants something else now. It happens
 
Sounds like she walked into your life, and can walk the fuck out of it just as easily. You may have a partnership, but you definitely don't have a relationship. I am sorry if any good times you had are over, but it's only trouble from here on out.

If you don't need her money, buy her the train ticket to buh-bye land and find some nice young tart to smash for a few weeks. Nothing like a little horizontal therapy to cure a man's ills.
 
It seems like things are going nowhere fast, and will likely get messier as she gets closer to leaving and pulling back from your relationship.

It may be hard in the moment, but sometimes it’s easier to walk away before it gets to that point.
 
She wants to leave but feels cornered financially. That's my read. I think the "back and forth" thing is her way of letting you down gently. I don't see why she would want to come back. You've said it yourself the romance is dead. Plus it's been pretty clear over your past threads that the relationship with this woman is over. You're only 40 and it's sexless already, make it make sense. Be happy she's leaving, no point clinging onto it.

Men being the primary breadwinner in a relationship is how most couples work. Most guys don't care about it because they're into the woman they're with. You two are more like roommates, so why provide for a roommate. I think that's why on some level you're uncomfortable with it. If you were head over heels you wouldn't care.
 
My partner and I had a blazing row about money, and I'm looking for an outside opinion.

We have been together for eleven years, living in bedsits for the first several months and then renting studio flats for the last ten. We always went halves during that time, and we worked together, so we were paid the same, basic living wage. During that time, I invested in myself a bit and got a better job, and five years into that, I invested in myself again and got myself a better job, the job that I've been doing for the past two years. She received a payrise soon after leaving, but her wage is still rather low. I now earn double what she earns a year, though she catches that up a bit in a side hussle.

Our relationship is strong in the team but the romance has all but died. She wants to return back to her own country and go back and forth between here and there, so she is trying to save for it. I know that we don't have a future together as a family, and whilst I am not looking forward to her leaving, I think that it should be done, though I do not wish to rush her away. I want her to be in a good position.

I bought a property recently and as her side hussle was doing well and she didn't like her job, she decided to go down to part time. She makes more now than she did in the past. She said that she won't pay £350 once she moves in, but will pay £200 and look after the food. I agreed.

Only today, after I asked her if she had paid me £200 this month, she gave me an ultimatum of either her paying £200 and stops contributing to the food, or she keeps the food going and won't pay £200 this month, as she has had issues with her work and to her, isn't making what she used to. I let it go as she had made a wonderful meal and we only get so much time together due to differing shifts. Something didn't sit right with me though, so I checked her payslip, only to find that she had been paid more than enough to cover it. Her side business was also unaffected.

She repeated the falsehood that she wasn't doing well financially, accused me of trying to squeeze every last penny that she had off her, and kept repeating the ultimatum. She also demanded a room and a bed for the money. She also brought up wanting to save money in order to return home, and that she "knew" that I wanted her gone. I accused her of being "just like her friends", who are older and boast about having been paid for by lonely, ill old men. I also brought up the idea that she kept mentioning one of the men to me, saying that he was treating her friend well and that her friend was lucky to be "looked after", and said that she wanted to manipulate me in order to get an easy ride. I then told her that she, like her friends and their agreements with their men, now views the eleven year relationship as transactional and not as a team. I called her a leech and a parasite and told her to tell her friends to find her another room, and that she won't make it without me, as she can barely do simple IT and paperwork tasks on her own. I then went, had a shower and decided that I may not want to talk to her for the rest of the night. She put £200 on the table after my bath and I started to play Clair Obscur, said "I don't have to save for anything", and then left. I said nothing.

Truth be told, I don't care too much about the money, but I feel like she has been using her friends to guilt trip me into basically letting her stay under my roof and pulling back her contributions, and I find the idea of being entitled to being financially looked after to be disgusting behaviour. She's a good housekeeper and cook, I'll give her that, but it isn't enough. I have worked hard and invested time and money into bettering my position in the last eight years and frankly, I've been bothered by the fact that she hasn't. It all just doesn't sit well with me, and though I can look after her if need be, her conduct just doesn't sit right with me.

Thoughts? Flame away? Sad faces for my race towards the 2025 Saddest Poster Award?
I don’t give a fuck if my wife works a day in her life as long as my house stays clean, stocked with food, and my dick stays wet.

Although you did use the word partner. Sounds like it’s an unequal partnership in your situation.
 
She’s your roommate, not your partner

And not even a good roommate at that. A good roommate at least pays their share of the rent lol.

Worse is you’ve been “together” for over a decade with no marriage and no home and no respect between yourselves

This thing should have been ended a long time ago
 
Ass, Gas or Grass, no one rides for free. Many cultures are all about transactional relationships. Not for me.
 
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