Who do you believe UFC or USADA?

[Young Calf Kick]

eat a dick

Don’t mind our mentally unhinged grandpa @TempleoftheDog over here my guy, once in a while he lashes out at anything when he forgets to take his meds.

 

[SpiderFan187]

They can test him 24/7 until Jan 1 if they're so convinced he's on PEDs. If he is they'll catch him. If he's not they defamed him by saying he's on steroids and then literally proving he isn't.

As to your 2nd point, you're just proving how reckless of a statement it was to ever put out without any positive tests.

You seem very triggered today... Conor 100% took steriods to recover his broken ankle. Cope, Khabib took his soul <3

 

[markg171]

You seem very triggered today... Conor 100% took steriods to recover his broken ankle. Cope, Khabib took his soul <3

What does that at all have to do with whether or not he's clean now and will be clean when he fights as the drug testing rules require?

But thanks for proving that none of you guys actually care about the drug testing. You're just anti-UFC / Conor.

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

What a lame and bullshit argument... read my message again : In fact, UFC is the only professional league in the country to turn its testing over to the USADA. Major League Baseball, the NFL and others craft their testing policies as part of the collective bargaining process between the players' union and the league. And some critics say that relationship can result in putting the leagues' interest ahead of the players.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/05/...-drugs-nfl-investigative-explainer/index.html

It has nothing to do with technology.

Cool a six year old article. Like I said, plenty of info in the conference as what made UFC move from USADA. Nothing to argue about if you dont look into the reasoning.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Cool a six year old article. Like I said, plenty of info in the conference as what made UFC move from USADA. Nothing to argue about if you dont look into the reasoning.

Fine from 2022 then : involves having an independent agency such as USADA take over the policy, instead of having the policy set by the league and players’ union. But that likely won’t happen for one reason – The NFL would be giving up control. So would the players’ union.

“The players want this policy as much as the league does,” said Jodi Balsam, a professor at Brooklyn Law School who formerly managed litigation for the NFL. “It’s been very carefully and thoroughly negotiated.”

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sport...ng-drugs-ped-steroids-suspensions/6645732001/

It's still better than nothing but far less reliable than USADA. USADA is the gold standard in the USA, no matter how much you hate this fact.

 

[SpiderFan187]

UFC EVP and CBO Hunter Campbell: “At no point in time did Jeff, myself, or any other UFC representative, Dana – not a single person ever went to USADA and told them anything other than Conor McGregor would re-enter the program when he was healthy. In doing so, we would require him to be in the program for six months. There would be no exception to the rule." https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023...regor-advance-false-narrative-demands-apology

Um, Dana is on public record telling the six month rule to go fuck itself for McGregor. Additionally, UFC statements have all been carefully crafted to avoid directly saying the USADA is lying, using terms like "dirtbag move," "false narrative," etc. or saying that the USADA statements "couldn't be farther from the truth" about why the UFC is contracting with a new testing provider when the USADA statements were about USADA's belief that the relationship with the UFC was broken, not about why the UFC did what it did. It's very clear that the UFC is lying here and that they are avoiding saying that USADA is lying, which tells you all you need to know.

This, he even stuttered when he said false narrative, like he wanted to take it back half way and find another word but it was too late. My take on the wording was Conor or his manager was putting the heat on USADA and the Conor cried to UFC

 

[Xanzito]

The UFC lost their credibility still left as a semi-genuine competitive sport just to see Conor get manhandled again?
Hope they get record ppvs on this one to justify this.
At least, the GOAT Dana White privileged child argument is now settled.

 

[SpiderFan187]

What does that at all have to do with whether or not he's clean now and will be clean when he fights as the drug testing rules require?

But thanks for proving that none of you guys actually care about the drug testing. You're just anti-UFC / Conor.

You're so hard on conor's nuts it's clouded your brain if it wasn't already clouded.

- Conor has 100% taken steroids
- He's gone on twitter and cried about them taking his "lively hood" and not letting him fight when all he needed to do was enter USADA
- He went on twitter saying he's coming back in December when he wasn't in the testing pool
- Out of the horses mouth Dana said "who gives a shit was USADA thinks" in regards to Conor coming back and fighting in December.

So it's 100% clear that UFC / Conor tried to book a fight in December and USADA felt pressured about it and said they felt pressured about it.

So stop talking gibberish and let me know which point i am wrong about?

 

[Fedorgasm]

Don't believe either.

Ari Emanuel is the CEO of endeavor and he's calling the shots now. I'm sure he came in and said "why the fuck are you doing more strict testing than the NFL? Knock it off. Do enough testing to make it look like we're trying to run a clean sport and that's it. No need to go above and beyond."

 

[Brettco]

Don't believe his lies.

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I've been with several women that were sad and hurt they couldn't fuck with me enough to slap them. They acted like I didn't care enough about them to get that mad. Women are crazy.

 

[suffersystem]

Who cares? The fact of the matter is that USADA works for the UFC, not the other way around. Sounds like USADA fucked around and found out and got sacked. Also, unpopular I know, but I doubt it was Dana who made this decision, it seemed to me like it was more Hunter Campbell who got super pissed off and facilitated this.

They don't really "work" for UFC persay they, they were hired for their service, but they still have a guideline they go by and can't just do whatever UFC tells them to do.

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

Fine from 2022 then : involves having an independent agency such as USADA take over the policy, instead of having the policy set by the league and players’ union. But that likely won’t happen for one reason – The NFL would be giving up control. So would the players’ union.

“The players want this policy as much as the league does,” said Jodi Balsam, a professor at Brooklyn Law School who formerly managed litigation for the NFL. “It’s been very carefully and thoroughly negotiated.”

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sport...ng-drugs-ped-steroids-suspensions/6645732001/

It's still better than nothing but far less reliable than USADA. USADA is the gold standard in the USA, no matter how much you hate this fact.

This article proves that the current testing works fine for the NFL and how many players have been suspended for getting popped. Just because they hide the suspension or dont broadcast it doesnt mean the testing is inferior. Its actually hurting your argument and if you dont watch the conference and listen to why they moved a different direction then you will just stick to your narrow minded view.

 

[markg171]

You're so hard on conor's nuts it's clouded your brain if it wasn't already clouded.

- Conor has 100% taken steroids
- He's gone on twitter and cried about them taking his "lively hood" and not letting him fight when all he needed to do was enter USADA
- He went on twitter saying he's coming back in December when he wasn't in the testing pool
- Out of the horses mouth Dana said "who gives a shit was USADA thinks" in regards to Conor coming back and fighting in December.

So it's 100% clear that UFC / Conor tried to book a fight in December and USADA felt pressured about it and said they felt pressured about it.

So stop talking gibberish and let me know which point i am wrong about?

The fact that none of that's happening...? Conor is in the pool and Conor does have to wait 6 months until he can fight again.

 

[cws80us]

Basically, USADA wouldn't let their cash cow have a bogus exemption, so that he could fight this year. Remember the whole "December is back on the table" crap? All the little leprechaun had to do was to get off the juice and reenter the testing pool, and all of this could've been avoided. So, the UFC is of course pissed because this cost them a lot of money. They put conman over the integrity of the sport, and for what? A guy that hasn't won a meaningful fight in 8 years? Who has gotten finishing and embarrassed in 3 of his last 4 fights. Nothing but bad press outside the ring.

 

[ZCrz]

I take it as USADA wanted the contract renewed before assisting with Conors situation. UFC wanted USADA to go first so they could lower a price when it came time negotiate. Neither side would budge.

You have to keep in mind UFC accounted for 80 percent of USADAs business this is a huge blow to the company. Looking forward to what USADA does back

 

[aali14]

Ofcourse USADA

 

[SpiderFan187]

The fact that none of that's happening...? Conor is in the pool and Conor does have to wait 6 months until he can fight again.

It all happened lol which point in specfic did i lie about?

The fact is USADA didn't play ball with them (Conor / UFC) wanting to bypass testing and they expressed that and Dana got upset. Conor is in the testing but wtf does that mean at this point? it's just to save face, I'm very confident if USADA goes knocking Conor won't open the door and am happy to bet my account vs your account.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Don’t mind our mentally unhinged grandpa @TempleoftheDog over here my guy, once in a while he lashes out at anything when he forgets to take his meds.

I just get sick of the LCD. That’s never going to change. I detest lowlife fighters. And I abhor their lowlife fans.

At least I’m honest about it.

 

[markg171]

It all happened lol which point in specfic did i lie about?

The fact is USADA didn't play ball with them (Conor / UFC) wanting to bypass testing and they expressed that and Dana got upset. Conor is in the testing but wtf does that mean at this point? it's just to save face, I'm very confident if USADA goes knocking Conor won't open the door and am happy to bet my account vs your account.

Once again here is what's actually happening:

Conor is in the pool and Conor does have to wait 6 months until he can fight again.

I know this is very inconvenient for your narrative and so you instead move the goalposts literally backwards to past situations and hypotheticals to avoid talking about the actual present reality of what we now know but that's it. Not any of your conspiracy theories.

Which you're peddling even further now to suggest that if USADA does try and test Conor he simply wouldn't let them. That would constitute a failure for not being available to be tested like he must be now that he's in the pool. You do realize that USADA leaving / fighters leaving their jurisdiction doesn't mean a failure they rendered down before that would all of the sudden be void, right? The commissions are the ones who enforce USADA by refusing to licence fighters during their suspensions.

Great idea though to just not open the door and instead find yourself suspended for doing that.



USADA has literally nothing to be mad about EXCEPT that their contract wasn't renewed and they lost a substantial amount of their business to a competitor. It's not that hard.

 

[SpiderFan187]

Once again here is what's actually happening:



I know this is very inconvenient for your narrative and so you instead move the goalposts literally backwards to past situations and hypotheticals to avoid talking about the actual present reality of what we now know but that's it. Not any of your conspiracy theories.

Which you're peddling even further now to suggest that if USADA does try and test Conor he simply wouldn't let them. That would constitute a failure for not being available to be tested like he must be now that he's in the pool. You do realize that USADA leaving / fighters leaving their jurisdiction doesn't mean a failure they rendered down before that would all of the sudden be void, right? The commissions are the ones who enforce USADA by refusing to licence fighters during their suspensions.

Great idea though to just not open the door and instead find yourself suspended for doing that.



USADA has literally nothing to be mad about EXCEPT that their contract wasn't renewed and they lost a substantial amount of their business to a competitor. It's not that hard.

You still haven't answered the question.. where did i lie?

Do you think Conor took steriods?
Do you think he should have been able to fight in december?
Do you think USADA was in their right to say no you need to wait?

How about answer some simple yes or no questions, when you can't it clearly shows you're the one trying to fix the narrative when the simple questions asked are hard on topic. But yeah continue to avoid them and post gifs