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Who do you believe UFC or USADA?

Who do you believe?

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markg171 said:
And then the UFC played ball and Conor entered the pool and will remain in it for 6 months before being able to compete in April.

So in what way is the UFC avoiding testing? All they did was change collection agencies and USADA threw a hissy fit for losing that contract.
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By getting rid of USADA in January. Which is literally what this thread is about.

Please sober up before you reply.
 
markg171 said:
It's a hissy fit by USADA. Everything they wanted is happening EXCEPT their contract renewal.
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The primary purpose of USADA is testing athletes on the road to Olympic qualification and competition. They're a non-profit and charge the UFC accordingly. Retaining the UFC contract or not is not a big deal to USADA as an organization, and the workers who will be displaced due to the contract loss will mostly migrate over to the new for-profit testing entity.

What's happening is that the UFC is going to pay more for testing because they didn't like USADA demanding to test Conor honestly. When their new testing entity also says fuck you to a Conor exemption so as to not imperil their vastly larger contracts with professional sports leagues, the UFC will be paying more for nothing.
 
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What about being in the pool till january 01 and juicing again after, because USADA isn´t there anymore?
It´s perfect for Dana/UFC, its perfect for McGregor. It looks like they would follow the rules, but this rules are changing after january 01. And no one knows today how they will change.
And USADA looks like a fool if you believe Dana........

The UFC needs a business partner they can pressure.
That doesn´t always work with USADA and all the shit around Lesnar/Jones was bad for the reputation of USADA.
The UFC wanted to work with USADA to get liable, not the other way around.
But fighters got thrown under the bus if they challenged Dana and on the other side there stars allways got special treatment.
And with a new partner you can pressure it is a perfect tool for Dana to fuck up 95% of his fighters or even more. And getting even richer in the process.

just thinking.....
 
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Well I tend to not believe big outfits who have something to gain or lose in their words. Sooooooo neither.
 
Corrupt garbage the both of them. Some of us have been saying it forever but most of you don't listen.

Fuck 'em both.

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HoelHomero said:
lol
lmao, even.

The very obvious gist of it is they wanted Conor to get an exception, USADA didn't give it, UFC threw a fit and said we're cancelling the partnership, then USADA released their statement.
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They dont need USADAs approval for the exception. You didnt listen to the conference.
 
Yellowcrab said:
It is completely relevant to the fact that they fired USADA. USADA simply said publicly the real reason.

And yeah things have changed, otherwise UFC would have kept USADA. If nothing changed, then they had absolutely no reason to leave USADA.

Their new anti-doping agency is far less stringent.



It's a non profit organization so this argument is irrelevant.
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Non profit stills pays peoples salaries so whats your point? That they dont have a reason to throw a fit losing 30% of their revenue?
 
Well Dana white is on record saying that Connor might not adhere to the 6 month rule and he didn’t give a shit what USADA says about it. I mean that’s not concrete proof of what went down behind the scenes but it certainly helps support what USADA is saying publicly today vs what the ufc is saying.
 
TerrorTimmy said:
By getting rid of USADA in January. Which is literally what this thread is about.

Please sober up before you reply.
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Getting rid of USADA =/= not testing.

If it's October and they didn't even have an agreement to renew in January I doubt talks were going good for quite a while
 
JBJ was here said:
The primary purpose of USADA is testing athletes on the road to Olympic qualification and competition. They're a non-profit and charge the UFC accordingly. Retaining the UFC contract or not is not a big deal to USADA as an organization, and the workers who will be displaced due to the contract loss will mostly migrate over to the new for-profit testing entity.

What's happening is that the UFC is going to pay more for testing because they didn't like USADA demanding to test Conor honestly. When their new testing entity also says fuck you to a Conor exemption so as to not imperil their vastly larger contracts with professional sports leagues, the UFC will be paying more for nothing.
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Or perhaps it wasnt about Conor and the conference will help clarify your skepticism.
 
UFC is going in the direction of NBA and NFL where stars have privileges regarding the use steroids.
 
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TheBulletwithWings said:
A link to the career section of their website?
Like I said, you never listened to the conference and came to parrot the conclusion every ignorant person came up with. Its fine.
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Their conference is bullshit, i don't need to watch anything : When it comes to testing for PEDs, the protocols of the United States Anti-Doping Agency and its international counterpart, the World Anti-Doping Agency, have been called the "gold standard" of testing. The Us agency was created to oversee the US Olympic team and tests athletes for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, the professional mixed martial arts league.

In fact, UFC is the only professional league in the country to turn its testing over to the USADA. Major League Baseball, the NFL and others craft their testing policies as part of the collective bargaining process between the players' union and the league. And some critics say that relationship can result in putting the leagues' interest ahead of the players.

Also : To keep its athletes safe, the UFC wanted to have them tested under the most stringent standards. By the USADA's protocols, that means in and out of competition periods, 365 days a year.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/05/...-drugs-nfl-investigative-explainer/index.html

Which means USADA only does permanent random testing or nothing else, you can't negotiate with their rules.

Meanwhile : DFSI’s comprehensive anti-doping services provide clients with a single, independent source of experts in the field who are dedicated to creating a program that caters directly to their testing needs.

https://www.drugfreesport.com/anti-doping-services-2/

But if a neutral source doesn't say it to you, you won't understand...

There's nothing more reliable than USADA in the US, hence why the circus show that become UFC decided to leave them.
 
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Yellowcrab said:
Their conference is bullshit, i don't need to watch anything : When it comes to testing for PEDs, the protocols of the United States Anti-Doping Agency and its international counterpart, the World Anti-Doping Agency, have been called the "gold standard" of testing. The Us agency was created to oversee the US Olympic team and tests athletes for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, the professional mixed martial arts league.

In fact, UFC is the only professional league in the country to turn its testing over to the USADA. Major League Baseball, the NFL and others craft their testing policies as part of the collective bargaining process between the players' union and the league. And some critics say that relationship can result in putting the leagues' interest ahead of the players.

Also : To keep its athletes safe, the UFC wanted to have them tested under the most stringent standards. By the USADA's protocols, that means in and out of competition periods, 365 days a year.

Which means USADA only does permanent random testing or nothing else, you can't negociate with their rules.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/05/...-drugs-nfl-investigative-explainer/index.html

But if a neutral source doesn't say it to you, you won't understand...

There's nothing more reliable than USADA in the US, hence why the circus show that become UFC decided to leave them.
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Maybe 8 years ago. As you have seen over the years the technology had been changing.
If you think you dont need to listen to the conference then im done here. You are happy to be ignorant.
 
TheBulletwithWings said:
Maybe 8 years ago. As you have seen over the years the technology had been changing.
If you think you dont need to listen to the conference then im done here. You are happy to be ignorant.
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What a lame and bullshit argument... read my message again : In fact, UFC is the only professional league in the country to turn its testing over to the USADA. Major League Baseball, the NFL and others craft their testing policies as part of the collective bargaining process between the players' union and the league. And some critics say that relationship can result in putting the leagues' interest ahead of the players.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/05/...-drugs-nfl-investigative-explainer/index.html

It has nothing to do with technology.
 
I look forward to seeing Conor lose again, however, this is a step backwards for all the fighters on the roster.
 
TempleoftheDog said:
About what exactly?

Edit.

What a failure of a thread.

Second edit.

You should know better. There was zero context. I should have replied to have clearly obvious how non-existent the OP was.

It was pretty much the title.. And that was it.

I voted for you last year in round 1.

I will not be voting for you at all this year. A POTY does not make such a ridiculously woeful thread.

Who do you believe?

About what?
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Allright grandpa that’s enough time to take your meds
 
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