Who believes Moreno will win the rematch?

I thought he only really won one round. Fig was sick before the fight. Moreno is good and is game but outside of those takedowns, I think Figgy might have the rematch on lock. I don't think it should have been a draw.

Ehhhhh those fouls altered the outcome of the fight and gave Fig a rest. He deserved that point being deducted.
 
I've been a beliver in Moreno for a while and think he's the next big thing at Flyweight. He showed last night he's got the faster hands, better cardio and slightly better boxing, not to mention he can take Fig down as a defensive move if he needs to. And he doesn't fear him at all. He will land a nasty combo on Fig and TKO him in the rematch. He's like 27 and improving every fight.
 
Ehhhhh those fouls altered the outcome of the fight and gave Fig a rest. He deserved that point being deducted.

Okay? One judge gave Moreno the fifth to turn the decision into a draw, which he clearly lost as he didn't even throw for half of it. I never mentioned the point deduction.

I scored it:

10-9, 10-9, 9-9, 9-10, 10-9 for Figgy.

I think he won even with the point deduction. It should not have been a draw, just like the Suredawg play by play.
 
If Figgy was really having medical problems as well beforehand, have to have him as a measurable favorite. He would have won if the ref didn't take pts away.
 
If Figgy was really having medical problems as well beforehand, have to have him as a measurable favorite. He would have won if the ref didn't take pts away.
And Moreno could have won if he didn't get hulk kicked in the balls and Fig gets a rest.
 
The biggest thing that was missing was a good set up for the high kicks. That's his route to victory I think
 
Not sure. If what fig said about being ill before the fight is true, then we saw a really compromised champ who should've won a decision had it not been for one completely inept judge.

I think in the rematch, knowing what he knows now of Moreno and completely healthy, he wins.
 
If one idiot judge scores the fifth correctly, it doesn't matter. No fucking way Moreno won the fifth. None.
I don't really want to discuss which judge gave who a round. Most of the judges are morons. What else is there to say? You have to finish fights in this day and age.
 
I don't really want to discuss which judge gave who a round. Most of the judges are morons. What else is there to say? You have to finish fights in this day and age.

But you think that rest when the nut kick happened is why he lost despite Fig winning the first two rounds? Okay... Noted.
 
As much as I would like to see Moreno win the belt, The power and aggression of Fig probably gets the decision again...
 
But you think that rest when the nut kick happened is why he lost despite Fig winning the first two rounds? Okay... Noted.
Are you arguing that the foul didn't alter the fight? Moreno got eye poked and kicked in the nuts. That had an effect on the outcome.
 
Do you know how difficult it is to have a 21 day turnaround for a 5 round championship fight during a global pandemic, and you also have to defend your belt against a younger opponent who's been watching you hard for atleast 2 years now??

Fig will win the rematch emphatically, there's absolutely no way you can be even 80% under those circumstances regardless of damage sustained in your previous bout. That's not enough time to have a legitimate fight camp, he likely knew next to nothing about Moreno coming into this fight ( in terms of in depth fight prep)

I think every champion would severly struggle or lose if they had to take 21 days between championship bouts in the modern era, everyone in the division just got done watching you fight, and you have no time to adjust your skillset or tendencies before the next opponent is in your face.
It's not like he showed any holes in the Perez fight. It was a quick fight where Figgy took no damage. Argument could be made it's easier like that. He was already in shape for the quick turnaround.
 
Are you arguing that the foul didn't alter the fight? Moreno got eye poked and kicked in the nuts. That had an effect on the outcome.

Are you arguing that the idiot judge scoring the fifth for Moreno didn't alter the outcome of the fight? Lol.
 
Do you know how difficult it is to have a 21 day turnaround for a 5 round championship fight during a global pandemic, and you also have to defend your belt against a younger opponent who's been watching you hard for atleast 2 years now??

Fig will win the rematch emphatically, there's absolutely no way you can be even 80% under those circumstances regardless of damage sustained in your previous bout. That's not enough time to have a legitimate fight camp, he likely knew next to nothing about Moreno coming into this fight ( in terms of in depth fight prep)

I think every champion would severly struggle or lose if they had to take 21 days between championship bouts in the modern era, everyone in the division just got done watching you fight, and you have no time to adjust your skillset or tendencies before the next opponent is in your face.
You do realize Moreno also had a 21 day turnaround?
 
Are you arguing that the idiot judge scoring the fifth for Moreno didn't alter the outcome of the fight? Lol.
If you're expecting me to defend a judge's scorecard you're barking up the wrong tree. There's a chance if those fouls didn't happen Moreno could have finished Figgy. We'll never know because he got eye gouged and kicked so hard in the balls it made a loud echo around the building.
 
It will be interesting for sure. Fig was gassing in the third and that kongoesque groin shot helped him recover. Even after that he was tired. Fig could have cardio issues, which won't be shocking, most fast twitched KO artists do, even in the lower divisions (Marlon Moraes' cardio is suspect as hell too).

Moreno is not good enough for Fig, though. Even after Fig gassed, he was winning most exchanges and landing the harder shots. Moreno had some success before the groin shot and in the fourth, in which he landed his nice combo that stunned Fig. I think Fig paces himself better in the rematch, doesn't headhunt and wins 49:46 clear (or possibly 50:45).
 
It's not like he showed any holes in the Perez fight. It was a quick fight where Figgy took no damage. Argument could be made it's easier like that. He was already in shape for the quick turnaround.
There's no way taking a 21 day turnaround is actually easier unless your completely undisciplined with your diet between fights and need that 2nd date to stay engaged mentally. Even in a fight where it looks like a fighter took zero damage, I guarantee you they still sustained damage in the fight. Perez actually out landed fig and hit him with a mean leg kick(Perez has brutal leg kicks). Even in fights where fighters show dominance, there's always holes to exploit.

There's no way Fig actually prepared properly for this fight, he had the same thought most people did. That he didn't really need to, that he would run through Moreno and studying tape and proper game-planning would take a backseat.

21 days is nothing, you honestly need to rest for atleast 7 and that's assuming everything went perfect, then you need to begin your meal plan for the next two weeks. Hard sparring is completely out of the question, and watching what footage you can for preparation will take up the rest of your time. I don't think Fig was at his best for this fight, I don't think any fighter in the modern era can be with just 3 weeks between fights. Your honestly just winging it at that point, which showed in the fight.

You could tell Moreno had an actual gameplan, take the fight late and see if you can take over. He even kept throwing that sneaky high kick which I'm sure his team helped him prepare for, Fig on the other hand seemed lost for a good portion of the fight despite being superior in the standup.
 
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There's no way taking a 21 day turnaround is actually easier unless your completely undisciplined with your diet between fights and need that 2nd date to stay engaged mentally. Even in a fight where it looks like a fighter took zero damage, I guarantee you they still sustained damage in the fight. Perez actually out landed fig and hit him with a mean leg kick(Perez has brutal leg kicks).

There's no way Fig actually prepared properly for this fight, he had the same thought most people did. That he didn't really need to, that he would run through Moreno and studying tape and proper game-planning would take a backseat.

21 days is nothing, you honestly need to rest for atleast 7 and that's assuming everything went perfect, then you need to begin your meal plan for the next two weeks. Hard sparring is completely out of the question, and watching what footage you can for preparation will take up the rest of your time. I don't think Fig was at his best for this fight, I don't think any fighter in the modern era can be with just 3 weeks between fights.
Sounds logical. Then Moreno wasn't at his best either. Fight should be run back with both guys having a full training camp.
 
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