Crime White Supremacist Rally V.3 Aftermath

[Rational Poster]

Terrible people these white supremacist scum. There is no redeeming quality to them.

"Lived with his mother and a cat" - pretty much all you need to know about these wannabe nazis. Sexually repressed virgins crying bout "muh herritagez"

This is my issue with a lot of this "white pride" stuff.

It's mostly a lot of losers pretending to be more important than they are.

They aren't real Americans, just the entitled descendents of real Americans.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

As an Americanist, I spend a lot of time studying this crap. And one thing i've noticed is the persistent notion that race riots, lynchings, etc. happened a million years ago. You go back and watch footage of riots and protests from the 50's or 60's, for example, and you see a lot of young children with and around the adults waving their crosses and screaming in the face of activists. But what happened to those children? Well, they are still here. Many of the people we would associate with having actively participated in the ugliest shit our country ever produced (imo) outside of wars are still fuckin ALIVE. And their children are alive, and their children had their own damn kids, etc. This is active, living history still going on. My family literally had a cross burned in their yard when my mom was young lol. And this was in California.

I already tried to explain this in a previous thread. About how the first kid to integrate in schools is just 60 years old, and had rocks thrown at her by white adults. And then was told that those people sicking dogs on black people for wanting to use a toilet just packed up and went home and raised the Hippies (even though Hippies and the civil rights were both in the 1960's).

Don't waste your time Pete. Also I've discussed in a previous thread, and posted links to the story from 1995 I think, about how a cross was burned in a yard in my apartment complex when the very first black person moved in.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

 

[oldshadow]

You are as bad as those you complain about.

You blame the whole left because a few lefties attacked you because they blame the whole right because of the actions of a few.

You're post paints you as simply the counter idiot.

Read my other post in this thread and others I don't blame every lefty. But large numbers have been throwing around the racist Nazi on everything and everyone with anything to do with Trump.

You know this is true, just watch or read the news.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Read my other post in this thread and others I don't blame every lefty. But large numbers have been throwing around the racist Nazi on everything and everyone with anything to do with Trump.

You know this is true, just watch or read the news.

You don't want all Trump supporters called nazi or fascist, but where are you when half the WR Trump people are running around calling people ISIS apologists and stuff like that?

Trump people around here literally calling someone an ISIS supporter happens a lot more than Trump people randomly being called nazi sympathizers.

 

[Hog-train]

Yea I guess he needs to wake up and say it everyday right something like this is only good for a 24 hour pass? Or does he need to please the masses and say things exactly how MSM and social media people want? I realize the identity politic game is to make Trump a racist and his supporters are all racist and he stands by him blah blah just like Obama was a secret Muslim right ? but it's a dangerous game and it's going to keep escalating with dumb people buying in and hurting others because of media words and story's.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html

"
David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.""

He only amended the statement after he got a lot of criticism. Then he gave an revised statement denouncing the KKK and Neo-Nazis.

His original reply was evasive and diffusing the responsibility. It was pretty obvious. If it wasn't, why did he give a second statement afterward? The proof is in the pudding.

 

[Rational Poster]

You don't want all Trump supporters called nazi or fascist, but where are you when half the WR Trump people are running around calling people ISIS apologists and stuff like that?

Trump people around here literally calling someone an ISIS supporter happens a lot more than Trump people randomly being called nazi sympathizers.

Obama founded ISIS you dumb liberal.

 

[Huked on foniks]

[QUOTE="HIMBOB, post: 132911223, member: 329407

You're post paints you as simply the counter idiot.[/QUOTE]

I know it's not my fight but I found this hilariously ironic.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Obama founded ISIS you dumb liberal.

 

[oldshadow]

You don't want all Trump supporters called nazi or fascist, but where are you when half the WR Trump people are running around calling people ISIS apologists and stuff like that?

Trump people around here literally calling someone an ISIS supporter happens a lot more than Trump people randomly being called nazi sympathizers.

I judge each incident as it comes up. I take stuff around here not too seriously but this is not just here. The leaders of the left many of them anyway have branded Trump a racist and called him a Nazi because he won the election and insult anyone that voted for him the same way.

You don't think that has an effect on people that voted for him. We are all racist because we didn't want or like the Democratic platform and who they ran.

You can be center right and vote for Trump.

I have or at least had no desire to go to or march in some Trump support rally. I just shook my head a voted for the person that would at least protect some of the things I believe in.

Just people that wear a Trump hat or shirt are attacked physically not a Nazi shirt.

I don't care to wear a Trump shirt because I don't like him that much. However at a certain point I say fuck put on the shirt and fight. And the truth is more and more center right people I talk to are feeling that way. When you push people into a fight they will fight back.

I support all the peaceful protest you want but if you want to get physical and attack people and destroy things people are going to fight back.

I'm not talking about the Nazis that come looking to fight but all the other shit .

"Maxine Waters: The White House is now 'the White Supremacists' House"

And she is a sitting congresswoman.

The right needs to make it clear they don't support this Nazi shit and I think they have .

But those in the center right are getting real tired of this shit.

We lived that shit you talk about in the 60's and most all of us we on the other side and supported civil rights and to stop the war.

Some of us can still fight when pushed.

 

[in the]

@AgonyandIrony
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38069469
Trump talking about the alt-right in 2016
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In a far-ranging interview with the New York Times, the US president-elect was quoted as saying: "I condemn them. I disavow, and I condemn."

He said he did not want to "energise" the group, which includes neo-Nazis, white supremacists and anti-Semites."

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

I judge each incident as it comes up. I take stuff around here not too seriously but this is not just here. The leaders of the left many of them anyway have branded Trump a racist and called him a Nazi because he won the election and insult anyone that voted for him the same way.

You don't think that has an effect on people that voted for him. We are all racist because we didn't want or like the Democratic platform and who they ran.

You can be center right and vote for Trump.

I have or at least had no desire to go to or march in some Trump support rally. I just shook my head a voted for the person that would at least protect some of the things I believe in.

Just people that wear a Trump hat or shirt are attacked physically not a Nazi shirt.

I don't care to wear a Trump shirt because I don't like him that much. However at a certain point I say fuck put on the shirt and fight. And the truth is more and more center right people I talk to are feeling that way. When you push people into a fight they will fight back.

I support all the peaceful protest you want but if you want to get physical and attack people and destroy things people are going to fight back.

I'm not talking about the Nazis that come looking to fight but all the other shit .

"Maxine Waters: The White House is now 'the White Supremacists' House"

And she is a sitting congresswoman.

The right needs to make it clear they don't support this Nazi shit and I think they have .

But those in the center right are getting real tired of this shit.

We lived that shit you talk about in the 60's and most all of us we on the other side and supported civil rights and to stop the war.

Some of us can still fight when pushed.

I'm sorry but conservatives and right wingers have been name calling for a long time before Trump ever started campaigning. If anything it was conservatives throughout the years who set the precedent and created the "new normal". But I guess neither side will agree on "the chicken or the egg" argument so not even worth getting into.

t just seems to me that people want to sling the mud but not have it slung back. If anything, liberals (including myself) need to do better at not letting ourselves get drug down to that level. But then again "taking the high road" doesn't really work in the long run sometimes. So I dunno.

 

[Quipling]

This is pretty insulting to groups who actually had to fight tooth and nail, not metaphorically, against oppression.

Yeah how dare he suggest black people struggled against oppression. So offensive!

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Yeah how dare he suggest black people struggled against oppression. So offensive!

Right. African Americans have had it so easy.

Spoiler

 

[Rational Poster]

I guess his willingness to keep their company is dependent on how badly he needs their votes and their supporters votes to win an election.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

You are as bad as those you complain about.

You blame the whole left because a few lefties attacked you because they blame the whole right because of the actions of a few.

You're post paints you as simply the counter idiot.

The problem is that the mainstream media is aggressively pushing the "all Trump supporters are Nazis" narrative. They have gone way too far pushing the anti-Trump propaganda. The media has been by far the biggest problem when it comes to many of the problems we are seeing right now between the Left and the Right.

If anything we should be coming together to fight dishonest, unethical journalism and media propaganda.

 

[dontsnitch]

Extremely balanced from Shapiro.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Extremely balanced from Shapiro.

I thought Shapiro did a great job breaking things down. He criticized both sides, but was brutal towards the alt-right which was fully deserved.

 

[dontsnitch]

I thought Shapiro did a great job breaking things down. He criticized both sides, but was brutal towards the alt-right which was fully deserved.

I wonder if Shapiro will see it differently after Trump explicitly condemned white supremacy, given that this was recorded before he made those comments and he was very critical of him for not doing so.

Regardless, I'm really liking Shapiro calling out both the left and the right for racism and violence, if only more people adopted a more centrist view.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

I was posting this info in the thread where some random was complaining about the Crips or something but the when I hit reply it said the thread didn't exist anymore. So I guess it was deleted, but I figure the info is pertinent to this thread too.


Regarding WS or NN gangs and groups:
The Aryan Brotherhood is estimated to have about 10,000 members in and out of prison. According to the FBI they make up 0.1% of prison population but are responsible for at least 18% of prison murders. The Nazi Lowriders are estimated to have 1000 to 5000 members. The KKK has at least 6000 members. Many more exist with smaller numbers that all add up to a decent tally.


The SPLC has identified:
190 KKK groups
94 Neo nazi groups
85 white nationalist groups
95 skinhead groups
19 Christian Identity groups
35 Neo Confederate groups

These are just racist groups, not including other groups with common ground like anti-government groups, or anti-LGBT groups.