Crime White Supremacist Rally V.3 Aftermath

[Gutter Chris]

They were socialists as well and as for fascism it can be far right or left, all you need is a authoritarian government that is nationalistic.

"Nazism rejected the Marxist concept of class conflict, opposed cosmopolitaninternationalism, and sought to convince all parts of the new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good" and accept political interests as the main priority of economic organization"

Still not socialists dude .

 

[LMP]

The political parties essentially switched sides in the early 50s. You specifically stated that the democrats were all the racists in the 60s. I never mentioned the Nazis.

We can agree by the 60s the parties had completely shifted. I don't even really get what your upset about since your biggest point is it was the 50s not the 60s. I also already agreed saying all racist were on th democrat side was disingenuous. So we are arguing over 10 year or less.

 

[JadeOwl]

They formed one huge labor union which increased standards for workers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

From your source:

The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF) was the National Socialist trade union organization which replaced the various independent trade unions of the Weimar Republic after Adolf Hitler's rise to power. After the Nazi-organized 1933 May Day labor celebrations, the Third Reich not only nationalized all trade unions, but decreed union membership as a mandatory duty, forcing every worker to join the state-operated union.[1]
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Replacing existing trade unions with one under their control seems more like a power grab than any genuinely socialist policy.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

I was just about to point out the HRE when I saw your post. Which was neither Holy, Roman or much of an Empire.



Yes we do think Richard Spencer is a Nazi. Because he is a fucking Nazi. And the event rally being discussed in this thread was a white supremacist Nazi rally.

The worthless motherfuckers were parading with torches, Nazi flags and doing the Nazi salute. What more do you want? A god dammed affidavit?

You have not listened to him or his reasoning for doing so. I suggest you atleast listen to him and his reasoning.

People have the right to express themselves hot hey want. The reason they are doing what they are doing is because SJW and thought police are trying to re-write the constitution and control what people can say, can do, can think, can wear and if you cross the, not, they will beat you down, ruin your life, or kill you.

You have COMPLETELY missed the point. Try listening to him. We need open mindedness and communication, not brains shutting down, straw men, echo chambers and grand standing.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Truly a measure of a good poster, imo.

Good example in this very thread with @Lionel Mandrake. He's not one of the hiveminders here, but he's so convinced that what he learned from Hannity or whoever is true that he won't look up the numbers and he insists it's self-evident. Anyone who has looked up the numbers will inevitably disagree with him, and thus will come off to him as refusing to admit the indisputable truth, which he'll naturally take quite badly. If you're the kind of person who cares about accuracy and looks shit up before spouting off about it, you'll inevitably end up on his shit list.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

BUT IS SAYS SOCIALIST IN THE NAME!!!!

Nevermind the fact that they were a totalitarian regime built on racial superiority with power vested in a select few individuals for the purpose of world domination and systemic genocide.

Not sure where you huys are getting this. He had socialist policies in place everywhere from healthcare to education to production and wage control. The fact they became a totalitarian regime is a byproduct of socialist beginnings.

He was also ahead of his time when it came to cultural marxism. He blamed jews for everyones problems the same way cultural marxists blame white people today.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

They are using Nazi Salute and all these other goofy symbols to prove that they have their right to freedom of expression.

Are you really using this defense for a bunch of neo nazis?

 

[Quipling]

They are using Nazi Salute and all these other goofy symbols to prove that they have their right to freedom of expression. They are intentionally trying to troll and trigger people to prove what they is the problem: intolerance on the left.

All one has to do is look at the San Jose rally, the countless innocent Trump supporters beat, Antifa assaulting and terrorizing countless people to see where they are coming from. No one protests these inflammatory BLM rallies, no one protests the countless rallies where they incite violence against people with opposing political ideologies. The heightened rehtoric on the left has compelled the right to up their anti to prove their point, to drive thru the messages they see as important.

We cannot single handheld condemn them and ignore the people that showed up to beat them up. We need WAY more dialogue in this country, less violence, less base ball bats and shouting over people and way more listening. These people, no matter how much I disagree with them, did not show up there to beat people up....the same, however cannot be said about the Antifa who showed up to "Bash the Fash",

And news flash to all the Antifa, the way to get more people to agree with these clowns is to show up to their rallies, put it in the spotlight and start beating the, down when they try to voice their opinions. Just ignore them. Antifa and BLM has pushed more moderate whites to support racist notions since probably anyone since Hitler.

>They aren't racist, they're just ironically acting like racists, to troll leftists!
>Theyre racist and it's BLM's fault!

Take ten to get your talking points in order.

 

[Rational Poster]

Not sure where you huys are getting this. He had socialist policies in place everywhere from healthcare to education to production and wage control. The fact they became a totalitarian regime is a byproduct of socialist beginnings.

He was also ahead of his time when it came to cultural marxism. He blamed jews for everyones problems the same way cultural marxists blame white people today.

 

[HomerThompson]

Good example in this very thread with @Lionel Mandrake. He's not one of the hiveminders here, but he's so convinced that what he learned from Hannity or whoever is true that he won't look up the numbers and he insists it's self-evidence. Anyone who has looked up the numbers will inevitably disagree with him, and thus will come off to him as refusing to admit the indisputable truth, which he'll naturally take quite badly. If you're the kind of person who cares about accuracy and looks shit up before spouting off about it, you'll inevitably end up on his shit list.

Great post. Also:

*self-evident

 

[RockstarChris]

The sheriff is doing a press conference right now and said both sides were mutually getting into physical altercations. Both sides are to blame for all of this violence.

Update: When asked directly by a reporter "do you think one side was more responsible for the violence?" and the police chief once again said both sides are responsible and were mutually engaging in violence.

 

[HomerThompson]

I was going to respond to his post, but I couldn't find an emoji that was retarded enough. Not even the hotdogs cover that abortion of a thought process.

 

[JadeOwl]

You have not listened to him or his reasoning for doing so. I suggest you atleast listen to him and his reasoning.

People have the right to express themselves hot hey want. The reason they are doing what they are doing is because SJW and thought police are trying to re-write the constitution and control what people can say, can do, can think, can wear and if you cross the, not, they will beat you down, ruin your life, or kill you.

You have COMPLETELY missed the point. Try listening to him. We need open mindedness and communication, not brains shutting down, straw men, echo chambers and grand standing.

I don't need to hear his meaningless rationalization.

Racism and white supremacy are objectively monstrous evils that have brought nothing but suffering and hate to the world and they need to be exposed, fought and utterly destroyed.

I do not adscribe to the bullshit notion that all ideas are equally worthy of respect. He is free to spew his vile to his hearts content, but he will have to face the scorn and contempt of all decent people.

 

[snakedafunky]

I would say the Nazi's were socialists looking at it from a European political view of the 1920's.
These types of socialism just don't have anything to do with the American Democratic Party in 2017 (or ever really).

They sort of followed the Prussian style socialism. That wasn't based on Marxist principle but on Bismark style social policies.
Same as the social democrat's system we have today. That also comes from the Bismark style system.
The social democrats have been around for a long time and were the other main enemy of the Marxists during the 20's and early 30's.

Anyway, there are a lot of different kind of socialism out there. Its just that in the American 2 party system socialism is considered Marxism.
And always on the left. While even today in Europe you have the Front National who are socialist. But no one would argue they are on the left or Marxists.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

The sheriff is doing a press conference right now and said both sides were mutually getting into physical altercations. Both sides are to blame for all of this violence.

Call me biased but I'm gonna lay more responsibility to the neo-nazi folks who travelled to a place they don't live in, where they knew they were not wanted, to allegedly protest the removal of a statue they didn't previously know existed, where the statue was being removed by a liberal majority town.

This is like trying to equally place responsiblity on both sides when someone beats up the Westboro Baptist Church when they are "protesting" at some soldier's funeral.

 

[Gervinho]

They are using Nazi Salute and all these other goofy symbols to prove that they have their right to freedom of expression. They are intentionally trying to troll and trigger people to prove what they is the problem: intolerance on the left.

All one has to do is look at the San Jose rally, the countless innocent Trump supporters beat, Antifa assaulting and terrorizing countless people to see where they are coming from. No one protests these inflammatory BLM rallies, no one protests the countless rallies where they incite violence against people with opposing political ideologies. The heightened rehtoric on the left has compelled the right to up their anti to prove their point, to drive thru the messages they see as important.

We cannot single handheld condemn them and ignore the people that showed up to beat them up. We need WAY more dialogue in this country, less violence, less base ball bats and shouting over people and way more listening. These people, no matter how much I disagree with them, did not show up there to beat people up....the same, however cannot be said about the Antifa who showed up to "Bash the Fash",

And news flash to all the Antifa, the way to get more people to agree with these clowns is to show up to their rallies, put it in the spotlight and start beating the, down when they try to voice their opinions. Just ignore them. Antifa and BLM has pushed more moderate whites to support racist notions since probably anyone since Hitler.

if you are doing nazi salutes to prove a point and get a reaction of people, then you deserve a beating. No way should we be tolerant to nazis and just say well everyone is entitled to their views

 

[CargoKing]

ANTIFA ANTIFA!!! BLM!!!!! Murder is ok because previous murders were bad...yeah.

Good to see so many people following the simple principle that two wrongs make a right. I hope we're teaching kids that.

And just an fyi guys, condemnations don't come with a "but...".

I have condemned the car guy and the Nazis.

However the left has called anyone that voted for Trump a Nazi so we are expecting the next step.

"Well you are Nazi because you voted for him so you are a hypocrite. "

You're literally doing what you're criticizing "the left" for as you're criticizing them. They're wrong for saying all Trump supporters are nazis, but you think it's ok to attribute that opinion to everyone on the left? Get the fuck outta here....

but holy shit I love the butt hurt this is causing on the left!

I knew you were stupid but I didn't think you were a complete piece of shit too. Sadness and anger over the loss of life isn't butthurt you twitter-fucked 14 year old retard.

It's times like these when you get to see what people are really like.... and when this place lives up to the sherfront nickname. Yikes.

 

[DespicablePeep]

The example I always use is the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". We know them as North Korea, and Robust Kim definitely isn't entertaining democracy any time soon.

I would use the Holy Roman Empire, but if they can't even get the Nazis right, then the HRE is waaaaaaaaay above their heads.

Still not socialists dude .

Read their program, they have some very rooted socialist ideals. Some of them were not forced but government had control over how much companies could charge and how much they could manufacture, I don´t like Mises but have a read https://mises.org/library/nazi-economic-policy


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

1. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on landand prevention of all speculation in land.

1. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

1. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

1. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

I was going to respond to his post, but I couldn't find an emoji that was retarded enough. Not even the hotdogs cover that abortion of a thought process.

Just admit you are unable to argue the topic and move on. No shame in that.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

if you are doing nazi salutes to prove a point and get a reaction of people, then you deserve a beating. No way should we be tolerant to nazis and just say well everyone is entitled to their views

Then that means conservative have to be tolerant to clerics who preach death to America, amirite?