Crime White Supremacist Rally V.3 Aftermath

[oldshadow]

Call me biased but I'm gonna lay more responsibility to the neo-nazi folks who travelled to a place they don't live in, where they knew they were not wanted, to allegedly protest the removal of a statue they didn't previously know existed, where the statue was being removed by a liberal majority town.

This is like trying to equally place responsiblity on both sides when someone beats up the Westboro Baptist Church when they are "protesting" at some soldier's funeral.

I wonder how many of the counter protesters looking for a fight were from out of town.

It looks like the people that live there were the one caught in the middle.

 

[Steve-French]

Because I prefer to use stats to answer the question over what you personally remember?




And just generally, if something is really obvious, it should be even easier to spot in the data. There's no such thing as something that is so obvious that you can't find any evidence for it.

I never said that, all I said is that as of late (since Trump took office) the left has been responsible for more of the political violence. That PDF file was from 2015.

 

[LMP]

If you guys don't believe that Hitler took a lot of the ideas that Karl Marx came up with and used if in his political party I have nothing more to really say.

He injected a mixture of far left and right ideas. If you just want to go with the mainstream ideas that the nazi don't have socialist ideas, that's fine with me.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Great post. Also:

*self-evident

I hate it when a bad one like that gets through. Fixed.

 

[HomerThompson]

I never said that, all I said is that as of late (since Trump took office) the left has been responsible for more of the political violence. That PDF file was from 2015.

You got some stats to back up that claim?

 

[Denter]

From your source:

The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF) was the National Socialist trade union organization which replaced the various independent trade unions of the Weimar Republic after Adolf Hitler's rise to power. After the Nazi-organized 1933 May Day labor celebrations, the Third Reich not only nationalized all trade unions, but decreed union membership as a mandatory duty, forcing every worker to join the state-operated union.[1]
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Replacing existing trade unions with one under their control seems more like a power grab than any genuinely socialist policy.

Were there labor unions in the Soviet Union? Was that socialistic?

 

[Jack V Savage]

I never said that, all I said is that as of late (since Trump took office) the left has been responsible for more of the political violence. That PDF file was from 2015.

There's usually a lag with data collection on the issue. So I can't say for sure. But given the very long-term trend in the other direction, I highly doubt it has flipped, and there actually seems to have been an upswing of right-wing violence since the election.

 

[HomerThompson]

I hate it when a bad one like that gets through. Fixed.

I think that's the first time I've got you.

 

[Rational Poster]

Just admit you are unable to argue the topic and move on. No shame in that.

Sorry, not interested in debating with an internet Nazi about how the Nazis weren't actually Nazis, but communists.

 

[oldshadow]

ANTIFA ANTIFA!!! BLM!!!!! Murder is ok because previous murders were bad...yeah.

Good to see so many people following the simple principle that two wrongs make a right. I hope we're teaching kids that.

And just an fyi guys, condemnations don't come with a "but...".



You're literally doing what you're criticizing "the left" for as you're criticizing them. They're wrong for saying all Trump supporters are nazis, but you think it's ok to attribute that opinion to everyone on the left? Get the fuck outta here....



I knew you were stupid but I didn't think you were a complete piece of shit too. Sadness and anger over the loss of life isn't butthurt you twitter-fucked 14 year old retard.

It's times like these when you get to see what people are really like.... and when this place lives up to the sherfront nickname. Yikes.

Just look at the post here on plenty of threads on Trump.

 

[JadeOwl]

Were there labor unions in the Soviet Union? Was that socialistic?

I don't understand your question.

 

[RockstarChris]

Call me biased but I'm gonna lay more responsibility to the neo-nazi folks who travelled to a place they don't live in, where they knew they were not wanted, to allegedly protest the removal of a statue they didn't previously know existed, where the statue was being removed by a liberal majority town.

This is like trying to equally place responsiblity on both sides when someone beats up the Westboro Baptist Church when they are "protesting" at some soldier's funeral.

Ok put your head in the sand and don't listen to the police chief.

 

[KOQ24]

Call me biased but I'm gonna lay more responsibility to the neo-nazi folks who travelled to a place they don't live in, where they knew they were not wanted, to allegedly protest the removal of a statue they didn't previously know existed, where the statue was being removed by a liberal majority town.

This is like trying to equally place responsiblity on both sides when someone beats up the Westboro Baptist Church when they are "protesting" at some soldier's funeral.

WBC is using their 1st amendment right to protest.
Neo Nazis are using it too.

The ACLU defended them to hold their rally in that Park.

You're really getting into dangerous Territory if you want to deny certain controversial groups their right to protest.

My point still stands.Nobody gave a shit about KKK/Nazi rallies until BLM/Antifa started thinking it was a good idea to do "counterprotests", violence included

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Sorry, not interested in debating with an internet Nazi about how the Nazis weren't actually Nazis, but communists.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

if you are doing nazi salutes to prove a point and get a reaction of people, then you deserve a beating. No way should we be tolerant to nazis and just say well everyone is entitled to their views

So your not a proponent of the first amendment?

And who decides who deserves beatings? The majority? And, what happens if one day the majority decides you deserve a beating for something you are doing? Will you then conform to the mob?

There is a reason our forefathers put the 1st amendment first on the list. It is most important to a free society and exactly why we are not Nazi's.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

WBC is using their 1st amendment right to protest.
Neo Nazis are using it too.

The ACLU defended them to hold their rally in that Park.

You're really getting into dangerous Territory if you want to deny certain controversial groups their right to protest.

My point still stands.Nobody gave a shit about KKK/Nazi rallies until BLM/Antifa started thinking it was a good idea to do "counterprotests", violence included

You're putting words in my mouth. Where did I say deny RIGHTS of anyone?

I dunno why people can't admit that when someone does something douchey just to piss off other people, then they deserve a majority of the responsibility for what comes after. This is the type of BS that happens when we have a world full of millennials who think its really cool, trendy, and acceptable to "troll" and "rustle" people.

 

[Steve-French]

You got some stats to back up that claim?

Do you have some stats do back up yours?

Riots at Berkley
BLM protester shooting 5 cops at a rally in Dallas.
Riots in Portland
The rise of Antifa
The long list of false flag hate crimes and vandalism caused by people trying to blame white supremacists.

Besides this latest group of assholes that were part of that conservative march what right winged groups have been causing that kind disruption?

Regardless of who took part in that March there wouldn't have been violence there if the left winged groups didn't go down and fuck with them. Regardless of what they stand for they still have the right to assemble and had a permit.

 

[Rational Poster]

Your entire post history is a case study in the incoherent ramblings of a mentally stunted and frightened little boy.

 

[HomerThompson]

Do you have some stats do back up yours?

Riots at Berkley
BLM protester shooting 5 cops at a rally in Dallas.
Riots in Portland
The rise of Antifa
The long list of false flag hate crimes and vandalism caused by people trying to blame white supremacists .

Besides this latest group of assholes that were part of that conservative march what right winged groups have been causing that kind disruption?

Regardless of who took part in that March there wouldn't have been violence there if the left winged groups didn't go down and fuck with them. Regardless of what they stand for they still have the right to assemble and had a permit.

Did I make a claim? I must've missed that.

 

[JadeOwl]

So your not a proponent of the first amendment?

The first amendment only says you get to say whatever you want. I doesn't say anything about everyone else having to put up with their shit.