Which university has more intelligent students? Harvard or MIT?

[rj144]

Had a grandpa who was a great cook, mechanic, gardener ,could fix anything, played guitar and harmonica, he couldn't read or write.

I put common sense over intelligence.

Respet to your grandpa, but you do realize graduates at these schools have won multiple Nobel prizes, have been generals and admirals, members of Congress, Presidents, Governors, White House Chiefs of Staff, etc...

 

[El_Dyablo619]

.....but whos the girl in the picture?

 

[Merlotte's]

Is DeVry still around??

It is, that means people are still going there. Scary times ahead.

 

[2gps125]

What is your definition of intelligence? MIT alum work for Harvard grads, and the latter are at the top in most industries; especially those that require the ability to speak. Most MIT grads would go nowhere as entertainment execs, unless they were glorified IT people; same with finance. Harvard people are at the top at Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackock I see that with Caltech and Harvey Mudd types. Only Oxbridge competes with Harvard.

If you just want STEM guys then I agree MIT is best, but those same MIT grads are not going to be the sales staff. This in MIT guy who is not a nerd, which is why he wound up in finance and not STEM. His grad degrees are from Harvard.

Hope Hicks dating Goldman Sachs' (and Trump advisor) Jim Donovan (pagesix.com)

 

[AldoStillGoat]

MIT

alpha monkeys might have screwed all the females and been smart enough to horde all the resources

however, it was that one monkey that figured out how to make fire that influenced life for everyone coming after him.

to me, the students of mit and those who are more engineering focused are the brightest minds in the world. They are on the forefront of development and in my opinion are more evolved primates than other human beings. They are constantly putting themselves outside consciousness to figure out problems, as opposed to businessmen who operate within consciousness to achieve success. It’s like arguing whether a local alpha is more powerful or a politician or dictator. The alpha can control his local environment, but a dictator or politician plays on a macro level. It’s the same with engineering vs other intelligence. One operates within the primal network and one exists outside it. Anyone that disagrees shows what they value and who they are internally. If you’re content with making money by keeping others under slave wages in order to have a more comfortable life banging girls and think that’s the pinnacle of life success have at it. However those of us who exist outside the limits of our primal self can clearly see who the smartest people in the world are.

 

[mixmastermo]

MIT

alpha monkeys might have screwed all the females and been smart enough to horde all the resources

however, it was that one monkey that figured out how to make fire that influenced life for everyone coming after him.

to me, the students of mit and those who are more engineering focused are the brightest minds in the world. They are on the forefront of development and in my opinion are more evolved primates than other human beings. They are constantly putting themselves outside consciousness to figure out problems, as opposed to businessmen who operate within consciousness to achieve success. It’s like arguing whether a local alpha is more powerful or a politician or dictator. The alpha can control his local environment, but a dictator or politician plays on a macro level. It’s the same with engineering vs other intelligence. One operates within the primal network and one exists outside it. Anyone that disagrees shows what they value and who they are internally. If you’re content with making money by keeping others under slave wages in order to have a more comfortable life banging girls and think that’s the pinnacle of life success have at it. However those of us who exist outside the limits of our primal self can clearly see who the smartest people in the world are.

I don't disagree with some points you made, but I disagree with your overall conclusion.

Exhibit 1: an academic journal about statistical methods

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244014567685

Exhibit 2: Steve Jobs shutting down a nerd



Of the 3, who would you want running your business? Who is more likely to succeed at bringing society in the future?

Grabbing and holding people's attention is a skill- one that is not easily quantifiable.

FWIW in my experience, just because you are an engineer, it doesn't mean you are brilliant and destined for success. I have met some engineers that are outstanding at their discipline but their focus is so narrow they sometimes fail to see the bigger picture and a more obvious solution to a situation.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

mit works for harvard is a silly trope caused by generations of legacy students inheriting daddy's money and hiring people that are really good at what they do, meaning the MIT people. MIT does not have hilarious programs such as all the Liberian lesbian potter poetry class.

 

[ralphc1]

I don't know how really it is, but growing up MIT was always seen more respected due to STEM focused. Harvard I always thought was just some rich ppl school any oligarch can pay their way to

Harvard is also a legacy school? If your parents went to Harvard you get preferential treatment.

At Harvard, the acceptance rate for legacy students is about 33%, compared with an overall acceptance rate of under 6%. Countless powerful Americans have followed their relatives to elite universities.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ue-legacy-admissions-harvard-wealthier-whiter

 

[Rawex]

Liberian lesbian potter poetry class.

Where can i sign up for this?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Where can i sign up for this?

Harvard.

 

[2gps125]

mit works for harvard is a silly trope caused by generations of legacy students inheriting daddy's money and hiring people that are really good at what they do, meaning the MIT people. MIT does not have hilarious programs such as all the Liberian lesbian potter poetry class.

What is wrong with a degree from Harvard in "Liberian lesbian potter poetry?" I knew a guy who worked at DIsney/ABC TV and his boss was an Oxford Russian/Portuguese grad; one of the other divisions was headed up by a Princeton Women's Literature PhD. The boss-boss was Ben Sherwood Harvard then Oxford, both degrees in history.

 

[D3THRONED]

What is your definition of intelligence? MIT alum work for Harvard grads, and the latter are at the top in most industries; especially those that require the ability to speak. Most MIT grads would go nowhere as entertainment execs, unless they were glorified IT people; same with finance. Harvard people are at the top at Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackock I see that with Caltech and Harvey Mudd types. Only Oxbridge competes with Harvard.

If you just want STEM guys then I agree MIT is best, but those same MIT grads are not going to be the sales staff. This in MIT guy who is not a nerd, which is why he wound up in finance and not STEM. His grad degrees are from Harvard.

Hope Hicks dating Goldman Sachs' (and Trump advisor) Jim Donovan (pagesix.com)

This is a really bad post. MIT > Harvard and it's not close at all. Plenty of idiots go to Harvard, ZERO idiots are at MIT.

 

[SaiWa]

MIT, Georgia Tech, Cal Tech, Stanford are my top picks for the brightest students.

You may get into these schools but graduating is a whole different ballgame.

MIT, Cal Tech and Stanford are tops for sure...

Georgia Tech though?... yeah like no... good to almost great but not top tier like the first 3 mentioned...

 

[gspieler]

I find it slightly ironic that you're disputing posters like me and saying we are simply talking about "street smarts".. because you are actually using your street smarts to make your argument.

But it's all good. I'll admit I made some points but I wasn't overly specific. Look at the graphic below:

There are multiple kinds of intelligence. MIT heavily favors those who have strong spatial and logical-mathematical skills. Maybe strong in one or the other, maybe a bit of both.

The other kinds of intelligence I am talking about that would make one more "well-rounded" would be interpersonal, intrapersonal, and linguistic in addition to the 2 previously stated.

IMO a student (whether it's a Harvard or Penn State graduate) that is well above average in those 5 categories (but not necessarily an expert in any of them) is more intelligent overall and more likely to succeed than a student that is an expert at the logical-mathematical or spatial intelligences. Sure the logical mathematical genius who went to MIT may outclass the Penn State Business school grad in building machine learning algorithms.. but that MIT genius won't be running a multi-billion dollar corporation like Nike anytime soon.

Yes, I'm well-aware intelligence is much more abstract than "who's the best at math".

But having said that, not all forms of intelligence are equal in determining a standardized definition of what constitutes "intelligence", in the general sense, IMO. People like Trump and GW Bush are known for having high social iq's, but they probably couldn't calculate the area of a triangle, if you gave them the formula. Not as impressive as intelligence at deductive reasoning, or even practical intelligence, e.g. how rebuild the engine of a car, IMO.

 

[drstrangelov]

Harvard, they’ve got the same basic acceptance criteria (perfect grades, perfect test scores, genuine accomplishments) on average, and they’re comparably selective. Harvard has more students though, so there are more intelligent students at Harvard.

Also, Harvard’s STEM programs are excellent.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

What is wrong with a degree from Harvard in "Liberian lesbian potter poetry?"

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[Big Dawg]

San Quinten University

 

[Nada.]

One of my friends was a guest teacher at Harvard for a year and said smartest guy he met there was janitor.
So i'll have to go with Harvard.

 

[rj144]

What is your definition of intelligence? MIT alum work for Harvard grads, and the latter are at the top in most industries; especially those that require the ability to speak. Most MIT grads would go nowhere as entertainment execs, unless they were glorified IT people; same with finance. Harvard people are at the top at Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackock I see that with Caltech and Harvey Mudd types. Only Oxbridge competes with Harvard.

If you just want STEM guys then I agree MIT is best, but those same MIT grads are not going to be the sales staff. This in MIT guy who is not a nerd, which is why he wound up in finance and not STEM. His grad degrees are from Harvard.

Hope Hicks dating Goldman Sachs' (and Trump advisor) Jim Donovan (pagesix.com)

PLENTY of CEOs graduate from MIT so many Harvard guys work for MIT grads.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

My buddy in high school was recruited hard by MIT and Harvard. He was a FOB Asian and his math skills were off the charts.

He had his heart set on gping to Cal Tech because it was the superior school, but his parents were making him go to MIT because they didn't know any better, and wanted the status.

So the day of his interview for MIT, he goes off the wall and acts like a thug gangster, sabotaging the process so that he can go to Cal Tech, lol.