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Which university has more intelligent students? Harvard or MIT?

x9lonewolf said:
Georgia Tech is ranked 4 along with Cal Tech for best undergraduate engineering programs. Georgia Tech is top 10 in Computer Science too.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/computer-science-overall
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Yes it's a great school but it's not the elite highest tier. That's MIT, Stanford and Cal Tech. Acceptance is in the 4-7% acceptance rate for those schools. It's 20% for Georgia Tech. The ones who are rejected in the first 3 schools will goto other schools like Georgia Tech...
 
crabmeat said:
When I worked for a contractor for the city, they had someone from DeVry come to talk to us non-ASE techs a few times a year. This was a pointless and costly route. I guess my employer had a contract with DeVry on this scam. This dude from DeVry looked to be about in his 30's, but had a head of white hair. We were all packed in the bay having to hear this sales pitch. Somewhere in the back, I hear someone yell, "Yo, Q-Tip! Does the curtain match the drapes?!" The guy from DeVry gets this sad look on his face and says, "Well, good luck with your lives." The crowd does this "Waaaaaaah!"

The foreman asked what we did to him, cause he said nothing and split.
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I'm outta likes, but like.
 
mixmastermo said:
And there aren't many people who ever existed that can keep up with Lebron James on the court.

You can't compare these kinds of intelligences directly to each other. If people like Lebron James didn't have a special gift, a certain proficiency, a certain level of intelligence.. then everybody could do what he does. That clearly isn't the case.
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There is only one possible response to your post.

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crabmeat said:
When I worked for a contractor for the city, they had someone from DeVry come to talk to us non-ASE techs a few times a year. This was a pointless and costly route. I guess my employer had a contract with DeVry on this scam. This dude from DeVry looked to be about in his 30's, but had a head of white hair. We were all packed in the bay having to hear this sales pitch. Somewhere in the back, I hear someone yell, "Yo, Q-Tip! Does the curtain match the drapes?!" The guy from DeVry gets this sad look on his face and says, "Well, good luck with your lives." The crowd does this "Waaaaaaah!"

The foreman asked what we did to him, cause he said nothing and split.
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They’re so predatory. Almost every senior in high school receives junk mail from DeVry and some don’t know any better. I used to get a mailbox full of paper from them I wonder if kids get spam email from DeVry nowadays.
 
Bush went to Harvard and is proof that Harvard is superior for intelligence

 
SaiWa said:
Yes it's a great school but it's not the elite highest tier. That's MIT, Stanford and Cal Tech. Acceptance is in the 4-7% acceptance rate for those schools. It's 20% for Georgia Tech. The ones who are rejected in the first 3 schools will goto other schools like Georgia Tech...
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I disagree. Generally, I find computer scientists and engineers seem to be the most intelligent students.

Let's see the schools I listed ranked based on engineering and computer science programs according to US News.

Aerospace Engineering
#1 - MIT
#2 - Georgia Tech
#3 - Cal Tech
#8 - Stanford

Biomedical Engineering
#2 - MIT
#3 - Georgia Tech
#5 - Stanford
Cal Tech is not ranked in the top 10

Chemical Engineering
#1 - MIT
#2 - Georgia Tech
#4 - Cal Tech
Stanford is not ranked

Civil Engineering
#2 - Georgia Tech
#4 - MIT
#9 - Stanford
Cal Tech is not ranked in the top 10

Computer Engineering
#1 - MIT
#4 - Stanford
#5 - Georgia Tech
#8 - Cal Tech

Electrical Engineering
#1 - MIT
#3 - Cal Tech
#4 - Georgia Tech
#6 - Stanford

Environmental Engineering
#3 - Georgia Tech
#4 - MIT
#5 - Stanford
Stanford is not ranked in the top 10

Industrial Engineering
#1 - Georgia Tech
#10 - Stanford
#11 - MIT
Cal Tech not ranked inside the top 11

Materials Engineering
#1 - MIT
#4 - Georgia Tech
#8 - Stanford
#11 - Cal Tech

Mechanical Engineering
#1 - MIT
#2 - Georgia Tech
#3 - Stanford
#5 - Cal tech

Computer Science
#1 - MIT
#1 - Stanford
#5 - Georgia Tech
#8 - Cal Tech

The other 3 are private schools and Georgia Tech is a public school. I expect it to have a higher acceptance rate but lower graduation rate.

So, you think Georgia Tech is not elite but the others are?
 
ineverpost said:
pure intelligence is Harvard. The smartest people are fully capable of doing STEM but they pursue the avenue that nets them the most money which is not always STEM. Harvard produces the most successful entrepreneurs and business leaders.
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Entrepreneurs and business leaders are hardly the most intelligent people. Sociopathic? Absolutely. But generally not super intelligent. MIT would have to win this one.
 
Renard said:
MIT. Harvard loses by default by virtue of having a lot of joke programs, e.g. business administration, social studies, women studies, theatre, religious studies, etc. MIT has mostly hard sciences where you do need good cognitive skills to understand and manipulate the concepts at play.

"Intelligence" isn't a subjective concept; IQ is your general processing power (g-factor) - assessed by compounding your scores in multiple different facets (verbal, spatial, working memory, reasoning, etc). So when people inject concepts like "leadership" or "social skills" in a discussion about intelligence, they don't understand what intelligence is. You could say someone is intelligent BUT lacks x or y, but those random concepts don't fall under the banner of intelligence. Someone doesn't lose IQ points because they're unathletic or can't talk to girls - not how it works.
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I think this is a great post and if we are talking strictly on reasoning and problem solving, you would be 100% correct. MIT would take it. Studies show that more education, specifically the effort on the part of the person in question, will increase IQ.

I could be wrong, but it seems like Harvard makes an effort to capture students with other forms of intelligence and to specifically incubate leadership in a way that more focused STEM schools, like MIT do not. So this argument could require more nuance than a strict measure of traditional IQ.

Harvard actively pursues students that are both well rounded and standouts in the passions they pursue; they value leadership, personal development and discipline. If we are going to measure some combination of social intelligence and IQ, I would give it to Harvard.
 
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ineverpost said:
pure intelligence is Harvard. The smartest people are fully capable of doing STEM but they pursue the avenue that nets them the most money which is not always STEM. Harvard produces the most successful entrepreneurs and business leaders.
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'Smartest' is arguable, because some people have streets smarts and have a knack for being good businessman or political leaders but aren't cut out to be an engineer or physicist. While some people are great inventors but have no street smarts so they can get ripped off. Plenty of smart people go into a particular STEM field because that is what they like, and not because that career brings the most money.
 
Harvard has been infiltrated by PC nonsense for years now, ever since they had the Ebonics courses.
 
Renard said:
MIT. Harvard loses by default by virtue of having a lot of joke programs, e.g. business administration, social studies, women studies, theatre, religious studies, etc. MIT has mostly hard sciences where you do need good cognitive skills to understand and manipulate the concepts at play.

"Intelligence" isn't a subjective concept; IQ is your general processing power (g-factor) - assessed by compounding your scores in multiple different facets (verbal, spatial, working memory, reasoning, etc). So when people inject concepts like "leadership" or "social skills" in a discussion about intelligence, they don't understand what intelligence is. You could say someone is intelligent BUT lacks x or y, but those random concepts don't fall under the banner of intelligence. Someone doesn't lose IQ points because they're unathletic or can't talk to girls - not how it works.
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My opinion on the matter is worthless but I agree. You ll have only highly intelligent people in engineering, physics, mathematics, etc. You don't need a lot of intelligence for sociology, gender studies and the like. So even if very competitive, people won't get in based on intelligence alone.
 
Canned Tuna said:
Do you actually believe that the most intelligent people always (or even usually) pursue whatever will bring them the most money? Because that's not even close to true

In response to OP: you're talking about two schools where the average students are in the top 1% by IQ. No one here can give any reliable insight as to which school has the more exceptional smart people. Purely off numbers, the average MIT student has a one point higher ACT score.
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Yes. most of the time.
 
MIT (and Stanford) is for smart kids

Harvard, Yale and Princeton is for rich kids.
 
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