International Which State of the USA would get first lickings in the event of an attack?

[HomeCheese]

No bra....it was a single government employee sleeping at the wheel.

for real the dude actually pushed a wrong button.

5 years ago today, a false missile alert threw Hawaii into a panic

Exactly five years ago on Friday, Hawaii residents and visitors woke up to a terrifying emergency alert on their cell phones that sent a wave of panic across the state.

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

Then why the jenky text massage that was different than what they showed in the presentation? I mean, they showed us exactly what they planned to send out and the message that came out was not comparable, very different. Why take 40 minutes to send out the false alarm message? When have they ever tested the system like that? Never as long as I have been living here.

The hack actually fits the evidence far better than the official story. Think about it. It's okay if you don't agree with me.

 

[USA!USA!]

DC. Russia has already attacked our government and won.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

I'm pretty confident that obvious targets are very well defended.

Really? Cyber attacks to our grid would shut shit down fast

and most of our major enemies I’m sure have conventional warheads pointed right over here


This place needs an iron dome more than Israel potential wise and I’m sure we aren’t even close for that I know Hirano (state rep) has been lobbying but it’s not on the docket. People are sleeping

 

[avenue94]

Retarded article. You can't "surprise attack" the US these days with modern surveillance technology. Unless it was a terrorist attack.

Any conventional attack would be detected way before it hits.

A lot of truth to this but having intelligence and interpreting them correctly to respond in time are two very different things. See Israel on 10.7.

 

[evergreenrider]

DC. Israel has already attacked our government and won.

Had a typo there bud.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Retarded article. You can't "surprise attack" the US these days with modern surveillance technology. Unless it was a terrorist attack.

Any conventional attack would be detected way before it hits.

Like i said most of these countries (if for whatever reason wanted war with us) could send conventional ICBMs and there wouldn’t be a damn thing we could do about it

Russia being the prime example
And even the if not wanting to start a war I could see Ukraine becoming a friction point if peace isn’t found where if the Russian got angry enough by some thing we did or suportted could send a salvo preemptively

 

[avenue94]

Like i said most of these countries (if for whatever reason wanted war with us) could send conventional ICBMs and there wouldn’t be a damn thing we could do about it

Russia being the prime example
And even the if not wanting to start a war I could see Ukraine becoming a friction point if peace isn’t found where if the Russian got angry enough by some thing we did or suportted could send a salvo preemptively

What would Russia accomplish by launching a nuclear first strike?

 

[fedoriswar37]

California or Texas. From within.

 

[ermac88]

No one is dumb enough to conventionally attack the U.S on it's own soil. Or at least i hope so.

And if they do...well.....good luck for the follow up

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Assuming it's China and with the help of Russia, the West Coast is a no-brainer. Hawaii will likely be taken swiftly. Russia takes Alaska and makes their way through Canada. Then they combine their efforts in California. Washington DC will likely be targeted with missiles while all of this is happening.

 

[avenue94]

Assuming it's China and with the help of Russia, the West Coast is a no-brainer. Hawaii will likely be taken swiftly. Russia takes Alaska and makes their way through Canada. Then they combine their efforts in California. Washington DC will likely be targeted with missiles while all of this is happening.

I swear...have you guys never heard of logistics? You don't even need to know much about military logistics to understand how silly your fever dream is.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

I swear...have you guys never heard of logistics? You don't even need to know much about military logistics to understand how silly your fever dream is.

OP asked what state would likely be attacked first in a surprise attack. Hawaii and Alaska are both plausible scenarios.

 

[avenue94]

OP asked what state would likely be attacked first in a surprise attack. Hawaii and Alaska are both plausible scenarios.

But you didn't say Hawaii would be attacked. You said it would be invaded. Same you claimed Russia could invade Alaska.

I'm curious, how do you think China would launch a surprise attack on Hawaii exactly? Or Russia on Alaska for that matter. Never mind that Russia couldn't even launch a surprise attack on Ukraine.

 

[Hog-train]

Like i said most of these countries (if for whatever reason wanted war with us) could send conventional ICBMs and there wouldn’t be a damn thing we could do about it

Russia being the prime example
And even the if not wanting to start a war I could see Ukraine becoming a friction point if peace isn’t found where if the Russian got angry enough by some thing we did or suportted could send a salvo preemptively

Yea but that still wouldn't be a "surprise" attack. We'd know when ICBM's get launched.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

But you didn't say Hawaii would be attacked. You said it would be invaded. Same you claimed Russia could invade Alaska.

I'm curious, how do you think China would launch a surprise attack on Hawaii exactly? Or Russia on Alaska for that matter. Never mind that Russia couldn't even launch a surprise attack on Ukraine.

It's pretty evident you are glossing over things that don't actually matter.

If you don't believe a surprise attack is possible on Hawalli or that Russia wouldn't never attack US that's cool man. These are just all random opinions on fantasy scenarios.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

What would Russia accomplish by launching a nuclear first strike?

I’m saying they could launch a conventional warhead if they wanted to for whatever reason. …..many of them….from comforts of their lazy boys And that would be a wrap

To slow us down or to try and take for their own. Both China and Russia possess ‘Blue Navies’

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Yea but that still wouldn't be a "surprise" attack. We'd know when ICBM's get launched.

‘Surprise’ was never part of my point here.



Hawaii is considered extremely important for Pacific dominance due to its strategic location in the mid-Pacific, providing a vital hub for military operations, trade routes, and power projection, making it a key asset for the United States to maintain influence in the region; its natural harbors and central position further enhance its strategic value.

Key points about Hawaii's importance for Pacific dominance:

• Military Base:
  Hawaii houses significant military installations, including the headquarters for the Indo-Pacific Command, allowing the US to monitor and respond to activities across the Pacific.
  
  
• Strategic Location:
  Situated almost equidistant between North America and Asia, Hawaii acts as a crucial refueling and resupply point for naval vessels.
  
  
• Historical Significance:
  The annexation of Hawaii by the US during the Spanish-American War solidified its role as a key Pacific power.
  
  
• Trade Hub:
  Due to its central location, Hawaii serves as a significant center for Pacific trade and commerce. P

 

[BluntForceTrama]

I swear...have you guys never heard of logistics? You don't even need to know much about military logistics to understand how silly your fever dream is.

Please give me a crash course. In a sentence or two

 

[avenue94]

I’m saying they could launch a conventional warhead if they wanted to for whatever reason. …..many of them….from comforts of their lazy boys And that would be a wrap

They could if they wanted to devote at least a couple years to redesigning and spinning up new production lines for an ICBM with a conventional warhead that would instantly lead to Russia being demolished because everyone else would think it's a nuclear launch.

Lots of alien space bats in this thread.

 

[avenue94]

Please give me a crash course. In a sentence or two

China doesn't have the capabilities to sustain a naval force that far from home, let alone the sealift capacity to support an amphibious assault of any scale. Not to mention units in heavy combat burn through supplies at an insane rate, which again China doesn't have the capability of sustaining so far.