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Movies Which Movies do you think are massively overrated?

Already said but Black Panther. Are white people allowed to say this now? Fuck it, I'm saying it.

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If that's the case, and we're going to classify these films down the minutiae of plot points, then it's not nearly as impressive to claim "Traing Day is the 2nd-best cop thriller". So it's the 2nd-best in a genre in which only a handful of really good films have ever been made? Ok, I guess. That's great.

So I guess I'll put it another way...of all of the films in crime-themed genres of film, Traing Day, while a great film, isn't close to being the best, and was somewhat overrated, given the amount of praise it received.

What praise did Training Day get that it didn't deserve?

It was praised as a tight, well paced interpersonal cop thriller with standout performances by both of its leads. You're acting like people are putting it up next to the godfather just because the film gets referenced a lot. No one, and I mean no one has Training Day on their greatest films of all time top 5 or top 10. People just like the damn film.
 
2. That film's ending was the least of it's problems. A 'good' ending couldn't have saved that mess

It was a 10/10 film until the last 5 minutes.



I'm a big Christopher Nolan fan, but Interstellar was a borefest.
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It was a 10/10 film until the last 5 minutes.

There is nothing about law abiding citizen that was 10/10,

Not the shitty story, not the over the top performances, not the plot contrivances, not the horrific pacing, not the dumb-as-rocks script.
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I've just realised there is a damn good chance you are trolling and I've taken the bait.
 
Yeah best movie ever made is going a little overboard for Shawshank.

I don't think it could be called pro-establishment though. It makes a mockery of the system right down to Morgan Freeman's parole and the funding for the library. The warden is the most overtly Christian man in the movie and he is its biggest scoundrel. Dufresne could be a Christ figure but he never turns the other cheek. Doesn't follow proclamations like slaves obey your masters and so on.

Lol apparently no movie was ever any good itt.
 
It's seven now that I think about it. I'd put Ikiru, Throne of Blood, The Bad Sleep Well, High and Low, Red Beard, Dersu Uzala, and Ran above Seven Samurai. I'm obsessed with Dostoevsky and Shakespeare and most of these are heavily influenced by the two. I still love Samurai though. I always show that or Yojimbo to people as a gateway to his work.
I’m calling baloney. There is no way you think those movies are better than Seven Samurai. I feel like you’re just making all the Kurosawa movies you ever saw. I guess I can see placing High and Low and Ikiru over it if you just don’t like the historical setting, but there’s no actual way you think Throne of Blood or Ran is a better movie.
 
There is nothing about law abiding citizen that was 10/10,

Not the shitty story, not the over the top performances, not the plot contrivances, not the horrific pacing, not the dumb-as-rocks script.
@SakurabasEar


I've just realised there is a damn good chance you are trolling and I've taken the bait.
I wasn't trolling, I remember that movie being awful despite the actor depth and budget put into it
 
Gonna get crucified, here.

Basically, Stanley Kubrick’s entire catalog. Guy made some great films but I just don’t get the massive, crazy bootlicking people bend over backwards to do for his filmography. I could be more nuanced in The Shining, 2001, and Eyes Wide Shut that seem to be on some sort of demigod level movie status.

The Shinjng, which wasn’t terribly well received during its release, plods along with no real sense of dread because the casting is soo terrible. You’re never emotionally invested in Wendy or Danny (they’re insanely flat) and Jack comes off as unhinged in the first scene with Ullman. Nicholson’s ridiculous over-acting is best served elsewhere. It’s just a stupendously terrible movie to me that I could sog on about forever, but my lord do people love it. I’m a ‘different strokes for different folks’ person and am no authority on someone’s individual perception of art or entertainment… but holy shit what a load of ass that movie was.
That is the one edgelord opinion on movies I do have. I hate some of Kubricks movies. I genuinely think 2001 and Clockwork Orange are just complete garbage. Like just bad movies.

That said I actually do like the Shining. Not like I think it’s an all time great but I enjoy watching it.
 
Avatar

A visual spectacle to be sure, but it has one of the most generic plot that's been done in so many stories already that it just feels uninspiring. The acting are average, with generic villain, nothing particularly stood out. Avengers Infinity War is also a visual spectacle, but it has a deep I'd say it's rated appropriately if we are just going by the visuals, but a movie is a lot more than that.
 
I tried to watch this twice in threaters but fell asleep both times.

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I’m calling baloney. There is no way you think those movies are better than Seven Samurai. I feel like you’re just making all the Kurosawa movies you ever saw. I guess I can see placing High and Low and Ikiru over it if you just don’t like the historical setting, but there’s no actual way you think Throne of Blood or Ran is a better movie.

The hipster argument is Mizoguchi > Kurosawa and yes I would make it, don't think the student ever made a film as good as the masters Sansho the Baliff or Ugetsu.
 
The hipster argument is Mizoguchi > Kurosawa and yes I would make it, don't think the student ever made a film as good as the masters Sansho the Baliff or Ugetsu.
Mizoguchi doesn’t have enough great films to win that argument. I would agree that Sansho the Bailiff is an equal to Seven Samurai and explores some of the same themes of the human experience, it lacks any action so Seven Samurai gets the win in my book.
 
Interstellar, Inception, La La Land, Blade Runner (either) and... Star Wars - as a movie(s) rather than a cultural milestone. Oh, and the LOTR movies.
 
why seven samurai?
Yeah...
Giving dude a pass.
It's an ideal how we aim to be.
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Everytime I watch that I find something different, I didn't get.
The strongest & most human (in appetite & flaws) wasn't even Ideal/Samurai.
Seventh... (human) ;
which I think is symbolic, in regards to other traditions/religions as well.


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