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Movies Which Movies do you think are massively overrated?

which five do you put above it?

I love kurosawa works but it is my favorite aside from maybe Ran
just recently saw rashomon, good film, read about the guy, thought it was interesting that the hollywood contingent on Tora, tora tora thought he was insane and forced him to see a shrink.
 
I think Shawshank is a great movie about perseverance and stoicism and cleverness. Stephen KIng wrote that novel twice...two versions of it...Shawshank and then basically the exact same story in a fantasy book with castles and dragons and stuff. Again the movie executed everything at a very high level...even if it was fairly straightforward.

We could say the 90s thought it was self important but I mean...look at the last five to ten years. Black Panther? Women Talking? Triangle of Sadness? Reclaiming Birth of a Nation by making it a different movie with the opposite point. The Last Jedi. Ghostbusters 2016. At least before it was lengthy dramas posturing themselves in that regard. Now it's comic book movies and slapsticky crap with queef jokes and a fat chick doing prat falls.
Shawshank is near perfect, I wouldn't put it up there with Cool Hand Luke but it's damned good.
 
Star Wars prequels (specifically ep. 1 and 2)

I think a lot of people in their teens and 20s grew up watching it as little kids and don't understand how much of a let down they were in quality compare to the original trilogy.
 
Goodfellas, the Usual Suspects, Seven, Fight Club, and the Matrix were all overrated in my opinion. All good films, but not perfect, and not any I’ll ever watch again.
 
Star Wars prequels (specifically ep. 1 and 2)

I think a lot of people in their teens and 20s grew up watching it as little kids and don't understand how much of a let down they were in quality compare to the original trilogy.
I never met anyone that liked them. How old are you?
 
I think Shawshank is a great movie about perseverance and stoicism and cleverness. Stephen KIng wrote that novel twice...two versions of it...Shawshank and then basically the exact same story in a fantasy book with castles and dragons and stuff. Again the movie executed everything at a very high level...even if it was fairly straightforward.

We could say the 90s thought it was self important but I mean...look at the last five to ten years. Black Panther? Women Talking? Triangle of Sadness? Reclaiming Birth of a Nation by making it a different movie with the opposite point. The Last Jedi. Ghostbusters 2016. At least before it was lengthy dramas posturing themselves in that regard. Now it's comic book movies and slapsticky crap with queef jokes and a fat chick doing prat falls.

Bare in mind your talking about the film ranked #1 on IMDB, on its own terms its a well enough made film but I think quite a straight forward one. It does become quite a shmaltzy story about endurance which I don't think gets under its lead characters skin or has as much substance to it as something like Cool Hand Luke or A Man Escaped. Like a lot of the films from that era I think its really comfort food cinema for middle america, Andy as a Christ like figure and everything turns out ok with the baddies all punished.

Even for that kind of cinema I would argue something like Groundhog Day is far superior, its a comforting message of personal growth but we really see the growth happen to Murray's character in a believable fashion plus the comedy is often genuinely inspired. I don't think such films are really that different to say the MCU, obviously that takes place in a fantasy setting of comic book heroes but honestly if anything I think the better MCU films actually have more dramatic substance to them plus are less fawning of the establishment.

I would say most of the cinema of the current era that I'd see more substance in tends to be outside of Hollywood int he arthouse/indie scene. I don't actually think Triangle of Sadness or Parasite would be amoung the best personally, interesting films but plenty better than them for me.
 
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Bare in made your talking about the film ranked #1 on IMDB, on its own terms its a well enough made film but I think quite a straight forward one. It does become quite a shmaltzy story about endurance which I don't think gets under its lead characters skin or has as much substance to it as something like Cool Hand Luke or A Man Escaped. Like a lot of the films from that era I think its really comfort food cinema for middle america, Andy as a Christ like figure and everything turns out ok with the baddies all punished.

Even for that kind of cinema I would argue something like Groundhog Day is far superior, its a comforting message of personal growth but we really see the growth happen to Murray's character in a believable fashion plus the comedy is often genuinely inspired. I don't think such films are really that different to say the MCU, obviously that takes place in a fantasy setting of comic book heroes but honestly if anything I think the better MCU films actually have more dramatic substance to them plus are less fawning of the establishment.

I would say most of the cinema of the current era that I'd see more substance in tends to be outside of Hollywood int he arthouse/indie scene. I don't actually think Triangle of Sadness or Parasite would be amoung the best personally, interesting films but plenty better than them for me.

Yeah best movie ever made is going a little overboard for Shawshank.

I don't think it could be called pro-establishment though. It makes a mockery of the system right down to Morgan Freeman's parole and the funding for the library. The warden is the most overtly Christian man in the movie and he is its biggest scoundrel. Dufresne could be a Christ figure but he never turns the other cheek. Doesn't follow proclamations like slaves obey your masters and so on.
 
I'll get crushed for this, but Goodfellas.

Maybe it was built up too much or something but I watched it for the first time about a year ago and was not that impressed. Certainly not anywhere near my top 30 and I have no desire to rewatch it.
 
No Country for Old Men

Interstellar

Citizen Kane

Oppenheimer

EDIT:
Adding Apocalypse Now to the list after reading the post after this one.
 
Apocalypse Now.

Spoilers:

The breaks were just boring. The redux even worse. The first break rendezvous just dragged on with a weak battle scene.

The second playboy break was boring.

The third break was good when they were in the trench.

The main scenes of them in the boat and sheen looking over his mission were good.

Overall, long movies tend to have the weakest replay value.
 
Top of my ahead.

Seven Samurai
Pulp Fiction

The Godfathers.

One was good, second was long and boring.

Both are so overrated.

No Country For Old Men

Forrest Gump
Braveheart
Shawshank Redemption
Saving Private Ryan

The whole era of self important "big" Hollywood dramas of the mid 90's.

The Godfather.
Casino would have been better had Sharon Stone's character not been so fucking annoying.

It's Pulp Fiction for me. I don't get why it's so popular. People must see something I can't.

This episode of Parks and Rec sums up my feelings. How Ben feels about Lil Sebastian is how I feel about Pulp Fiction.



Training Day
I hate that film.

Pulp Fiction
Saving Private Ryan

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I'm sorry, I just don't think it was made that well. Good moments, good actors, but overall not great.

the gladiator
many dicaprio movies

I'll get crushed for this, but Goodfellas.

Maybe it was built up too much or something but I watched it for the first time about a year ago and was not that impressed. Certainly not anywhere near my top 30 and I have no desire to rewatch it.

No Country for Old Men

Interstellar

Citizen Kane

Oppenheimer

EDIT:
Adding Apocalypse Now to the list after reading the post after this one.

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anything with Matthew Mahogany it it.
no i won't correctly spell his name.
can't believe he fooled enough people that he's an actor, and now he's fooling them that he's some alright alright deep thinker.

he's my one bet that he'll run for president one day though.
hopefully he'll do so against taylor swift.
 
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