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I wont make my own list quite yet but I'm sure this was already discussed anyone want to take a stab. does he crack the top 10?
Cant say until his career is over. He could get starched next fight and that would change everything.I wont make my own list quite yet but I'm sure this was already discussed anyone want to take a stab. does he crack the top 10?
I wont make my own list quite yet but I'm sure this was already discussed anyone want to take a stab. does he crack the top 10?
P4P, I don't think there are 10 heavyweights better than Usyk, but strictly HW, I doubt he has done enough to make the top ten.
I wont make my own list quite yet but I'm sure this was already discussed anyone want to take a stab. does he crack the top 10?
He's not "the" most accomplished HW ever. (He's 37 already...he's never going to defend his titles as many times as Holmes, Klitschko or Joe Louis)
However, he should be part of boxing's P4P best ever list. (In other words, with the likes of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Ali, Cesar Chavez, Duran, Roy Jones Jr etc...)
I don't think it would be an exageration.
Let's see:
- Undisputed HW + Cruiser (like Holyfield)
- X2 Lineal champion (HW + Cruiser)
- X3 Gold champion.
( world + euro + Olympic gold medalist)
- Won X2 Ring Magazine (for heavy + Cruiser)
- Won the Muhammad Ali Trophy.
(there have been 5 boxers who have won the Muhammad Ali Trophy in the World Boxing Super Series tournament so far. Inoue, Briedis, Taylor, Smith, Usyk).
- He's a "road warrior" (having not fought in Ukraine since his ninth professional fight. Usyk has never fought for a world title in his home country.)
- won the undisputed cruiserweight championship in just his 15th professional fight..
- Usyk is also the first male boxer to win World and Olympic titles as an amateur and then go on to become an undisputed champion in a weight class as a professional.
He's not one of the best ever.He's not "the" most accomplished HW ever. (He's 37 already...he's never going to defend his titles as many times as Holmes, Klitschko or Joe Louis)
However, he should be part of boxing's P4P best ever list. (In other words, with the likes of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Ali, Cesar Chavez, Duran, Roy Jones Jr etc...)
I don't think it would be an exageration.
Let's see:
- Undisputed HW + Cruiser (like Holyfield)
- X2 Lineal champion (HW + Cruiser)
- X3 Gold champion.
( world + euro + Olympic gold medalist)
- Won X2 Ring Magazine (for heavy + Cruiser)
- Won the Muhammad Ali Trophy.
(there have been 5 boxers who have won the Muhammad Ali Trophy in the World Boxing Super Series tournament so far. Inoue, Briedis, Taylor, Smith, Usyk).
- He's a "road warrior" (having not fought in Ukraine since his ninth professional fight. Usyk has never fought for a world title in his home country.)
- won the undisputed cruiserweight championship in just his 15th professional fight..
- Usyk is also the first male boxer to win World and Olympic titles as an amateur and then go on to become an undisputed champion in a weight class as a professional.
I think you can argue, if he wins the rematch against Fury, that he was the best HW post Klitschko.Honorable mention.
He has cemented himself as the best of his generation, unified in 2 weight classes, unblemished pro record.
But his quality> quantity approach leaves him a bit short of the type of statistical accomplishments generally expected of top 10 of all time HW status.
P4P is different. Usyk would make that Top 10 all-time list quite easily. In that context there was Roy Jones Jr. who won a heavyweight title (John Ruiz or not), Holyfield, Haye, Bob Fitzsimmons, Mike Tyson (formerly rated P4P #1 by The Ring), Michael Spinks, and so on. A couple of those guys started at middleweight and won heavyweight world titles.P4P, I don't think there are 10 heavyweights better than Usyk, but strictly HW, I doubt he has done enough to make the top ten.
At cruiserweight he is and in the P4P sense. He established himself as arguably the top cruiser of all-time in less than 20 pro fights. If he retired today he'd be a 1st ballot HOFer and only the second heavyweight in history to retire as undefeated heavyweight champ. Inoue only has 5 more pro fights than he does but a lot more world title fights.He's not one of the best ever.
Just doesnt have enough fights to say that.