Where would Jon's career be without PED's?

[Viper2]

Every single athlete on earth that competes on a professional level in any sport that relies on strength and power, uses PEDs.

People who don't understand this are incredibly clueless, naive, and gullible.

 

[ThunderStruck]

I do not say that. You only know when they are caught. If they do not get caught, you do not know for sure.

But the difference between a fighter who is caught versus one who doesn't is that the one who gets caught likely abused peds more, which made it easier to catch him. Jones testosterone ratios were so low he had to abuse steroids a lot.

 

[tehMoose]

Very average, he can't even takedown MWs with bum knees without PEDs

He was good only because of the superhuman strength from PEDs.

My friend after 1 cycle of testosterone and winstrol could bench press 40 kg heavier than when he was natty. After one cycle. Now you can see the benefits of the PEDs in a fight.

 

[Klippy]

Bones fights without PEDs

Gusmao
Bonner (lost a round and got outboxed)
OSP
Smith
Santos
Reyes

Speaks for itself....

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

 

[Captain Herb]

I believe he was clean for a few of his mediocre performances against Reyes, Glover, and Thiago Santos.

So the answer I would say is roughly equal to those guys.

Not the guy that mauled shogun, machida, or kicked DC’s head off. He was juiced to the gills.

You need to go back and watch the Glover fight because that was Jon's roid prime. He put on an inhuman pace for 5 rounds and beat Glover from pillar to post. He absolutely would not/could not do that today.

 

[kflo]

But the difference between a fighter who is caught versus one who doesn't is that the one who gets caught likely abused peds more, which made it easier to catch him. Jones testosterone ratios were so low he had to abuse steroids a lot.

Kevin Iole with Yahoo Sports spoke with Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the head of Montreal's Laboratoire de contrôle du dopage INRS, one of 32 WADA-accredited labs worldwide. She saw no problem with Jones' T/E ratio. Dr. Ayotte said she was not alarmed by Jones' test results, and said they were not the result of taking epitostosterone to manipulate the T/E ratio.

"I read the interviews of 'specialists' on that topic [in MMA media accounts], and, well, I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal," said Dr. Ayotte.

 

[MCDojoMMA]

But the difference between a fighter who is caught versus one who doesn't is that the one who gets caught likely abused peds more, which made it easier to catch him. Jones testosterone ratios were so low he had to abuse steroids a lot.

Good point. There is a difference in the amount of cheating.

 

[FKAri]

A bigger what-if is where would Jones be if he had a different mind set in regards to his career and wasn't distracted with coke, being a psycho, and playing mind games with himself? In most cases you can say things like that "but that's also a part of what makes him so great", but in Jones' case I don't think it's true.

 

[Rdude92]

I believe he was clean for a few of his mediocre performances against Reyes, Glover, and Thiago Santos.

So the answer I would say is roughly equal to those guys.

Not the guy that mauled shogun, machida, or kicked DC’s head off. He was juiced to the gills.

Damn both of those fights with DC, they caught him. Even got one fight with DC cancelled because he was caught. That rivalry with DC really scare him enough to utilize every advantage he can think of

 

[Billthebutcher]

I'll bite. Chael beats jon with no PED's and takes the title.

 

[ShowYouRoll]

Where would everyone be without PEDs up until USDA?

Pretty dumb question really, considering every could juice